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Should be a wild four years.

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Okay but here's my argument: Christians aren't DOING jack shit.
Muslims are splattering these people on site, fuck due process.
You can quote the bible or whatever all you'd like I'm just saying the Muslims are out here DOING, not QUOTING, and it's based as fuck.
The Truth of God comes first, politics and action comes second. they're countries are just as degenerate or even more so than the west. Half of them are cousin fuckers. They use 3rd world slave labor. Their elites fuck children and animals and corpses. They aren't based because they throw fags off buildings.
 
This was the guy making a "why I haven't left the left" just a month or so ago. He sure seemed to love sucking down dismissing conspiracies not long ago as long as the right people told him to.
To be fair some people literally are terrified of leaving echo chambers since they've grown up in them and it's all they know.

Looks like he finally found some irrefutable evidence that something was wrong with his side and is going through a personal crisis of faith, and is looking more and more into things. I personally think that's to be commended, especially if before he was a diehard leftist.

Honestly as people realize they won't be viciously attacked nonstop now for doubting The Narrative™️ and questioning things we might start to see more and more rational people begin to exercise their critical thinking, since the threat of losing everything and being canceled held a lot of people in line.
 
To be fair some people literally are terrified of leaving echo chambers since they've grown up in them and it's all they know.

Looks like he finally found some irrefutable evidence that something was wrong with his side and is going through a personal crisis of faith, and is looking more and more into things. I personally think that's to be commended, especially if before he was a diehard leftist.

Honestly as people realize they won't be viciously attacked nonstop now for doubting The Narrative™️ and questioning things we might start to see more and more rational people begin to exercise their critical thinking, since the threat of losing everything and being canceled held a lot of people in line.
I have very little sympathy for people who didn’t wake up to globohomo and how fucked the country is until 2020 or after. That’s just a sign of being dim
 
I have very little sympathy for people who didn’t wake up to globohomo and how fucked the country is until 2020 or after. That’s just a sign of being dim
Not always, not to reduce what you're saying cause there are plenty of tards and malicious people taking advantage of them, but there are some people who genuinely just had bad spawn RNG and grew up with everyone around them reinforcing a very specific worldview

A proper metaphor would probably be like someone from an Amish community trying technology for the first time and realizing it's not all evil
 
Not always, not to reduce what you're saying cause there are plenty of tards and malicious people taking advantage of them, but there are some people who genuinely just had bad spawn RNG and grew up with everyone around them reinforcing a very specific worldview

A proper metaphor would probably be like someone from an Amish community trying technology for the first time and realizing it's not all evil
That’s understandable, I know there are whole parts of the country where dissent will cost you your job and such
 
Fleshsimulator not knowing what CRS was is my personal 'Trump saying GamerGate' :story:
Seeing our favorite non-suicidal competent swimmer get forcefed a redpill live in 4k is just too good.
It's like a world leader didn't know that China existed or something.
 
Bluesky, like many leftist things, is only a success at all because of what it's not.
Bluesky is not Twitter.
Biden was not Trump.
Obama was not Bush.
Hasan Piker is not Joe Rogan.
Impossible meat is not murder.
Green energy is not coal.
Canada is not America.
White trannies are not oppressors.

None of the above have anything to offer other than an "opt out" of the heckin problematic thing.

Bluesky just happened to be there when the left desperately needed not twitter.

Good point. Their whole platform is based on OTHER GUY BAAAAAAAAAAAD.
 
They succeeded in creating an echo chamber where nobody feels safe saying anything that isn’t 100% towing the party line. Unfortunately for them, they did that before sufficiently subverting the electoral system to an extent that renders real votes completely meaningless.

This means that while your opposition has a much harder time getting their message out, your own campaigns are now being run completely blind - you have no idea if anything you’re doing is actually effective, because everyone at every level is incentivized to outright lie to you out of fear of social ostracization and losing their job.

So yeah it’s not really Trump mindbreaking them - it’s more like they wished on the monkey’s paw to cut out the right’s tongue, not expecting it to come at the cost of their own eyes and ears.
This reminds me of a purity spiral they had over Elizabeth Warren. Polls showed men and particularly black men didn't like her (she polled at Z E R O with blacks). Somebody on the dem side said this out loud, and the response was Millennial women shrieking, "Are you saying a woman is incapable of winning an election?" and apologies were handed out.

The other issue they have, though, is they depend on single, female Millennials far too much now. Their opinions aren't driven by substantial concerns; they're 100% about signaling to other women their age. This cohort has decided that opposing Trump, always, all the time, on everything is in style, so the Democratic Party has to go balls-to-the-wall on all kinds of idiotic nonsense, up to and including, "Nooo keep the drug gang enforcer here nooooo," because Trump said the drug gang enforcer has to go, and you've got to let Millennial women know you're one of the good ones.
 
Dude is Reddit in his soul. Cannot be converted.
Which is unfortunate as I've only recently discovered him and his aesthetics are actually pretty great. Anyway, I'll reserve judgment until I see the CRS video and decide from there. Also I don't have to agree with anyone politically to like their stuff, as long as they keep their politics out of it (unfortunately increasingly rare nowadays). I follow a bunch of artists that are able to keep their spaghetti in their pockets in their works even though their Twitter accounts are radioactive.
 
I have very little sympathy for people who didn’t wake up to globohomo and how fucked the country is until 2020 or after. That’s just a sign of being dim
Believe what you want. But to me. Not welcoming people that change their minds, is something I think the right should absolutely NOT do.

The purity spiral, and shit like that is what made me hate the left so much.
 
Okay well you can start doling out the punishment whenever you're ready, it's long fucking overdue. There's a lot of hard talk within Christianity and not a lot of follow through.
Not to speak for my fellow Christians, but do you know what you're asking for? Mortal law and biblical law are very different. God outlined very harsh punishments for things that you consider normal or acceptable today. If Christians started doling out punishment as outlined in the Bible we would be criticized harder by you and wider society than the islamists who have invaded the West and pushed for Sharia law.

American decided long ago that it wanted separate laws and to not operate by constraints outlined in the Bible so that no religion was supreme, so blaming the Christians is retarded. For good or evil that was their choice and we respected it. American mortal law can stop all the shit we are seeing today from trannies to terrorism. So stop scapegoating those who have faith as "not living up to their principles" and trying to get us to "do something". We're bound by mortal American law as much as you are and most of us, like you, are doing what we can while constrained by mortal law. You telling us to go out and enact gods wrath is the same as me telling you to go and shoot someone because you disagree with their principles personally. Stop trying to twist the faith of others into a weapon to be used by the unfaithful. Being a smug atheist and telling us "go hurt the people your sky daddy doesn't like and break the law like a nigger." Isn't the own you think it is. I want what you want, so let's stop the hen pecking until we figure out how to achieve our shared goals lawfully.

We can fight about who's beliefs are gayer/retarded after that. I'll even get into he burger suit if you win whatever argument we have. I would prefer to work together even if you disagree with my faith, for the good of everyone else.
 
Yeah but I'm sick of this Christianity "Hate the sinner not the sin" bullshit.
I'm starting to become a fan of "Hey Muhammad... Do me a favor real quick. Find out which one of these buildings around here is the tallest. Get back to me when you do, because these faggots are taking the slow trip up and the express route down.
You've got it backwards—the phrase is "hate the sin, not the sinner."
Man is created in the image of God [Gen 1:26], and we are commanded by him to love him and our neighbor. In Acts 10:15, God tells Peter "...do not call anything impure that God has made clean." (Meaning Jesus was also savior to non-jews).
So hating somebody would break several of God's commandments but hating their sin would not even if the results look quite similar.
Consider this: Do you hate a bear that mauls a man? What about a fire that causes massive destruction, or getting caught in the rain?
These things aren't sentient in the way humans are and don't sin—and these disasters are things we accept occur. We don't hate them, but we hate the effect they have and don't want them to happen again. So we kill the bear, repair from the fire using more resistant material, and dry off from the rain.
Now what should we do with man? Man's nature is inherently sinful so we should expect him to sin and shouldn't be surprised when he does. So when he does sin, we must recognize the sin as the problem rather than the man, as the man can correct his behavior by seeking forgiveness and avoiding the sin. For minor offenses like hurt feelings, apologies may suffice, but for more serious legal offenses fines, jail, or even capital punishment may be appropriate. Perhaps they're remorse, then we should offer a plea deal and allow them to admit guilt (and possibly turn in others).
The core idea behind the phrase is that we identify sin as the root cause and seek to resolve sin and its effects rather than holding grudges that won't help you out.
If you were to apply this idea as a political strategy, it would be as though the Democratic Party in 2018 required all of their members to sign an anti-socialism pledge that stipulated they would not support funding universal health care, a green new deal, or health care for illegal immigrants, or gender surgeries for minors. And violators were kicked out of the party and not allowed on the ballot.
 
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Going to get ahead of this now - this is US Politics General. Not a thread on theology. Want to talk about the finer points of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, or whatever? Take it to Deep Thoughts or eat a threadban.
 
Believe what you want. But to me. Not welcoming people that change their minds, is something I think the right should absolutely NOT do.

The purity spiral, and shit like that is what made me hate the left so much.
There are pros and cons of being a big tent group. A line in the sand has to be drawn somewhere so to speak but clashing over relatively minor reasons is politically alienating. People who recognize their old beliefs were wrong, have genuinely changed and want to go down the proper path should be welcomed.
 
Which is unfortunate as I've only recently discovered him and his aesthetics are actually pretty great. Anyway, I'll reserve judgment until I see the CRS video and decide from there. Also I don't have to agree with anyone politically to like their stuff, as long as they keep their politics out of it (unfortunately increasingly rare nowadays). I follow a bunch of artists that are able to keep their spaghetti in their pockets in their works even though their Twitter accounts are radioactive.

Everyone has to start somewhere. Both Clarance Thomas and Thomas Sowell have said that at one point in their young lives they were some form of leftist, yet today are considered some of the most prominent conservative thinkers of the time.
 
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