🌟 Internet Famous David Steel / LazerPig / Ricewynd / Malquistion - Pathological Liar, Reddit Historian, Femboy Thirster, and Vore Connoisseur

[Ed Special]

The F-111 was definitely a cool plane and good at what it did, but the Tomcat objectively did swing-wing much better. IIRC the Tomcats had much higher readiness rates than the Aardvark (it's been a while since I read up on it, so I could be mistaken) especially with the later blocks and variants since they had all the kinks ironed out and maintenance routines fully developed. Of course, they were able to learn from many of the mistakes of the F-111 as they designed the F-14. But it's still pretty impressive what the Navy was able to do with the Tomcat, considering they had MUCH smaller areas to work on them while on a carrier compared to full on air bases with the F-111.

It definitely didn't help that, unlike the Tomcat, the 'vark never actually got good engines. If memory serves, it was stuck with radial turbines from the day it entered service until retirement, whereas the Tomcat eventually got axials, which, in addition to going a long ways towards fixing its engine flame-out issues and the resulting flat spins, weighed less for more thrust and had better fuel economy.

Still better than anything the Soviets would've put in it at the time, though.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Too bad his "Ultimate Tank Killer" was on the ground 90% of the time because swing wings are maintenance nightmares.

Try telling this to any fanboy of the F-111 or the F-14, they get really angry.

 

[Ed Special]

Try telling this to any fanboy of the F-111 or the F-14, they get really angry.

I'm a hardcore simp for SWANG WANGs. I also fully acknowledge that there's a number of damn good reasons they're not used anymore.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I'm a hardcore simp for SWANG WANGs.

Confirmed for Big Gay.

 

[Welf Welf]

When it comes to swing-wing ease of maintenance, the Mig-23 was king.

Let's see you do a video on that plane, Lazerswine.

 

[Meelo]

Swing wings are pure faggotry, Col. Boyd was right no matter how hard piggy's gaggle of tards or Top Gun fanboys seethe.

 

[donksmanSupreme42]

Swing wings are pure faggotry, Col. Boyd was right no matter how hard piggy's gaggle of tards or Top Gun fanboys seethe.

but in the '60s it was the only solution for having a plane that works well at both low and high speeds

later advancements in aerodynamic design made swing wings obsolete

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

This is a reference to Drew getting kicked out of university for harassing professors and students of Chinese descent. Drew really hates Chinese. Like everything bad in the world is because of the Chinese.

I'm guessing the idea is to deport him to a place that is under threat of Chinese invasion.

I remember touring a war museum somewhere near St Petersburg. I was in the country for work. They had a couple of Katyusha rocket launchers. The "Stalin's organs". Every single one of them had their Studebaker badges pried off. They also had every Sherman labeled as "captured enemy tank".

If you want to know something sad there are only two Il-2s left in the world and one is in America. The Soviets/Slavs kept very few of the weapons of the great patriotic war in a good enough state to display them.

 

[The Dude]

If you want to know something sad there are only two Il-2s left in the world and one is in America. The Soviets/Slavs kept very few of the weapons of the great patriotic war in a good enough state to display them.

They went all in on the T-34 mythos and pretty much neglected everything else. It basically became the only weapon or vehicle from WWII that they propped up as a point of pride. Granted, a lot of their other equipment from that period was pretty terrible to mediocre. Even the T-34 had it's major issues (especially with Comminist manufacturing standards) and was fairly mid, suffering the most tank losses of the war IIRC. But the Rooskies decided to make it their cultural touchstone for the WWII era.

Personally I always found their heavy tank designs more interesting. It's the Cold War era where Soviet/Russian weapons design gets really interesting, and sadly much of that stuff was left to rot instead of being preserved. Take their ekranoplan/ground effect vehicles for example. They put quite a bit of effort into that class of vehicle trying to get them to work. They had several experimental models, and I don't think any of them were preserved. And then there is the tragedy of the Buran space shuttle, how it was left in some hangar after the Iron Curtain fell...and then the hangar itself ended up falling in on the Buran and destroyed it.

 

[Kyria the Great]

I think the fatal flaw of many of these armchair general channels is that cost is never really a consideration as that's the real hurdle of any military. There's a reason that 70+ years were still using AR pattern weapons because they're cost effective and nothing can beat it's cost effectiveness for what is asked of it.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I think the fatal flaw of many of these armchair general channels is that cost is never really a consideration as that's the real hurdle of any military. There's a reason that 70+ years were still using AR pattern weapons because they're cost effective and nothing can beat it's cost effectiveness for what is asked of it.

The AR is cost effective, and we have a shit load of spare parts, and lots of people to make spare parts. If worst came to worst, the military could just take AR's off the civilian market and give them a full auto fire control group to boost their numbers of rifles rapidly.

 

[Kyria the Great]

The AR is cost effective, and we have a shit load of spare parts, and lots of people to make spare parts. If worst came to worst, the military could just take AR's off the civilian market and give them a full auto fire control group to boost their numbers of rifles rapidly.

Bingo and so many military spergs don't take that into consideration as logistics is routinely ignored because it doesn't matter how good a piece of kit is if it can't be there.

 

[Sooty Soot]

Haven't checked in on this thread for about 8 months now, what's piggu been up to?

 

[WelperHelper99]

Haven't checked in on this thread for about a year+ now, what's piggu been up to?

Posted a few videos, seethed on Twitter. The usual

 

[Sooty Soot]

Posted a few videos, seethed on Twitter. The usual

zero milk

 

[JustStopDude]

It's the Cold War era where Soviet/Russian weapons design gets really interesting, and sadly much of that stuff was left to rot instead of being preserved.

Preservation is pretty expensive and I think people tend to not recognize that Russia was never exactly an economic powerhouse and with the absolute utter devastation that Russia experience during the war, along with the political intrigue involving any sort of funding around their centrally planned economy, it's not really surprising that so much stuff was lost to history.

It's still amazing to me that Russia had such a successful space program.

 

[Ed Special]

Swing wings are pure faggotry, Col. Boyd was right no matter how hard piggy's gaggle of tards or Top Gun fanboys seethe.

I am a Macross fanboy. You will not dissuade me from enjoying the closest thing IRL has ever had to VF-1 Valkyries.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Preservation is pretty expensive and I think people tend to not recognize that Russia was never exactly an economic powerhouse and with the absolute utter devastation that Russia experience during the war, along with the political intrigue involving any sort of funding around their centrally planned economy, it's not really surprising that so much stuff was lost to history.

It's still amazing to me that Russia had such a successful space program.

The space program was an absolute tragic victim of Soviet political games but understandable given how expensive those programs are

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Bingo and so many military spergs don't take that into consideration as logistics is routinely ignored because it doesn't matter how good a piece of kit is if it can't be there.

And on the exceedingly few occasions where logistics are considered it's only considered in an ideal state and not in the restricted state that a war will put you into.

 

[Kyria the Great]

And on the exceedingly few occasions where logistics are considered it's only considered in an ideal state and not in the restricted state that a war will put you into.

Why I love the Ar as the design philosophy of it is decentralized in nature and you can make it in a basement where the AK requires massive factories to make them cheap. Though economy of scale is nice too and can make ungodly stockpiles