What do you think is the most socially damaging children's show ever released

Maybe that Current Year stuff that's on YouTube and intended for little kids? And definitely anything that pushes "social justice" BS.

Definitely My Little Pony FiM.
Didn't "bronies" start from 4chan anons liking the show ironically? Also, there were "furries" before MLP:FiM but I guess not as much.

R&S was gross. Back in the day when family watched SNICK*, my favorite part of R&S was end credits.

* (Nickelodeon on Saturday night in the '90s. Shows like Kablam!, All That, and R&S. Orange couch.)

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I sincerely believe, after many years of careful consideration, that "talking animal" cartoons are the origin of veganism and other animal-rights nonsense. When young children grow up seeing animals talk and act like people, it warps their perception of the boundaries of personhood. No one realized this when the first talking animal cartoons debuted... indeed, no one seems to realize it now, 100 years later. There may be later children's shows that are more extreme or absurd, but those first few cartoons started the avalanche.
 
Was that episode made before or after Jurassic Park? And I assume he didn't make any JP-reference quotes in that Captain Planet episode, right?
Not that I recall. But that show ran for about six years and it could barely hold my attention for two minutes. I just remember the villains being dumb, over the top villains. Which made them the best characters in the show.
 
I think Tomorrow's Pioneers. Mostly because it's hard to compete with unironic Islamic terrorist propaganda for children.

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teletubbies
because its meta and normalizes watching tv on the fucking tv
it also trains the audience to watch repetitions, directly after watching the thing
total brainrot, the precursor of short-format brainrot content
I sincerely believe, after many years of careful consideration, that "talking animal" cartoons are the origin of veganism and other animal-rights nonsense.
veganism is older than cartoons, also vegans are harmless
animal rights are peak whiteness
Dragon Ball Z, and many low quality shows like it, degraded my generation's appetite for traditional animation, which drew from a rich source of European art, based on visual romanticism, glorification of physical beauty, and a particular love for force and motion.
western animation fucking sucks, with few exceptions, mostly from france and basically its only asterix
western animation is low quality, badly designed, has boring plots and the artstyle & message is slop
There is lots of material online dissecting how Caillou is danger brain rot for kids, I agree it's terrible.
definitely terrible
"childrens shows" in general are horrible, the more infantile the speech & story the worse
ill just make the distinction to "family" movies like the above asterix, that i still enjoy very much
references to things only adults will understand
asterix does that too, but its great
 
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There's not one particular show but the entire class of shows like Transformers, G.I. Joe, He-Man, She-Ra, MLP, etc. that were nothing more than 20 minute toy commercials, with ad breaks so kids would watch other commercials, and a 2 minute PSA tacked on to the end just to shut the government up about advertising to kids. For all their "good versus evil, but good wins in the end" storylines, they were the first steps into turning Gen X into lifelong Consoomers and created the stepping stones for Man-Children who have to collect toys decades after they became adults.
 
Not exactly a show, but if we are going into damaging children’s media, it is easily Star Wars. Star Wars was the originator of it all, all of America’s over commercialized brands can be pinned on Star Wars, the whole rebel mentality also originated from Star Wars. Star Wars was patient 0 for all of the Left’s good guy sperging that would carry into all of SW’s clones like Harry Potter.

Star Wars is a fine brand, one that has a bit more depth than given credit, but it is still an IP that is way overused yet under qualified to be compared to real world situations like it slowly has. Not helping is the removal of any material that isn’t the OT by most fans. The prequels add quite a bit to the story to highlight a failing system being overthrown and encourage some level of rethinking of the good guys.

At best Star Wars is a fairy tale with some good themes of heroism and redemption. The prequels a cautionary tale of hubris and fear.


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Star Wars itself is fine, but it is incredible how much of the narrative gets lost on its fans who boil the entire thing down to rebels good, empire bad, completely missing the detailed narrative surrounding Vader, the actual main character. Any nuance in the characterization or politics, for as little as there is, basically gets removed or hated on by fans who just want Vader to be le bad guy. Basically, Lucas looked at history and the fall of empires, the fans/media took this and instead spun a basic le Nazi narrative for what it was all about.


Past that, Star Wars is also the originator of everything @William Murderface mentioned. It made the toy market viable to create the consumer geek culture of today that overtook Gen X.
There's not one particular show but the entire class of shows like Transformers, G.I. Joe, He-Man, She-Ra, MLP, etc. that were nothing more than 20 minute toy commercials, with ad breaks so kids would watch other commercials, and a 2 minute PSA tacked on to the end just to shut the government up about advertising to kids.
 
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the whole rebel mentality also originated from Star Wars
it originated with the tea party and the declaration of independence
the western movie hype was also before starwars, and heavily fed into the american rebel spirit
i agree that starwars is the beginning of the "media franchise" tho, incredible amounts of toys, collectors items, ...
completely missing the detailed narrative surrounding Vader
vader is literally hitler
 
veganism is older than cartoons
This is just incorrect. Veganism is middle-to-late 20th century. Cartoons are early 20th century, or even (strictly speaking) late 19th century. Your half-assed comprehension of it might be "it's really old", but you're just confusing separate phenomenon. Jainism might be really old, and superficially similar, but that doesn't mean these two things are identical or even related. You're not worth arguing with on this.
 
TV in general is just brainrotting, and kids should avoid that type of stimuli until they're at least 10-12 years old. But if I have to choose a show, it'd have to be anything during the 2010s. I can't think of any other time period where you can find the most autistic and deranged fucking fans of cartoons ever. I'm pretty sure Steven Universe, The Amazing World of Gumball, The Loud House, Adventure Time, and many other kids shows have done more damage to the psyche of children than any other show beforehand.

So probably Steven Universe.
 
If I am going to go after Star Wars, may as well go after the other holy grail not mentioned - Capeshit.

Let’s be honest, we all know this genre is responsible for a good chunk of tard tier takes. I will happily admit that the DCAU is arguably some of the strongest writing in western/children’s cartoons, but that doesn’t change the fact that the genre has been absolutely co-opted with strange, down-right awful politics.


The No Kill rule is the most obvious thing it trains audiences on. Even within the context of the narratives, mainly the adult books, this rule is blatantly retarded. Some people are completely irredeemable, yet it gives the audience the impression that everyone can be saved. Noble, but completely unrealistic. I have to imagine many hold views against the death penalty because they grew up with capeshit, hell they may even hold views against the Justice system or asylums. Batman in particular can really shape the view of victims in an oppressive hell.

Race politics - Let’s rip the band-aid off as X-Men need to be mentioned for how socially damaging the entire series is. Holy shit, how to craft a series that easily lost the plot decades ago, basically becoming the opposite of what it originally stood for. We went from integration to mutants now being a race that isolates themselves on their own island and views themselves as superior. The allegory barely works as obviously guy who shoots lasers out of his eyes is different from skin color, often times unintentionally validating racism in their weird attempt to build an acceptance movement. Biggest blight is how often these characters are able to do the most heinous acts imaginable while getting a free pass because their le minority coded.

Leaving the X-Men, for as loved as Static Shock is, it also pulls pretty much every race plot, being one of the early adapters to racist whitey cop story. Teen Titans 03 also did the Val Yore racism plot. Not as bad as X-Men can get, but worth mentioning as a big part of the genre.

Sex Politics - As bad as race politics. How many times has the Wonder Woman brand given the Amazons a pass for being backwards savages because they have vaginas?


A big problem is the arrested development of this genre being primarily aimed at kids for decades before switching it all to adults. You can tell how much the genre struggles with the change. It also creates this weird reality where the source material being promoted is downright awful for children to consume now that it is written for 30-40 year old collectors.

I touched the surface of this genre, but you can easily keep digging for all the weird shit: Justifications for rape and pedophilia, multiple accounts of incest, fetish material, etc..
 
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if you had the slightest idea of what you were talking about you would have blamed Pokemon, if you had a better idea of what you were talking about you would have blamed Astroboy
I'd have gone with Speed Racer, even though it pains me to say it.

But before there was Pokémon, there was Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Super Mario Super Show, Captain N, and the like. Cartoons based on video games have left a really noticeable impact on those who became old-school lolcows, Pokémon was just no real exception in that regard. It's probably not a coincidence it became a billion-dollar franchise, but it was only in the past several years that it out-ranked Mario.

Anyhoo I was thinking about the question and decided to ask my husband on the way to work. While we can both agree to a point it may have (eventually) been Sesame Street, he reminded me of a children's programme that happened a decade earlier:

The Mickey Mouse Club.

I've never actually delved into that kind of Disney lore, though, but I remember my late-grandmother had actual nostalgia for it. She became disheartened by modern Disney a few years before her death, yet she had kept on her rose-tinted glasses for the Disney of her youth, and The Mickey Mouse Club had a key role in that. Something tells me many old-school Disney loyalists are the byproduct of the Club, I just don't know exactly what it is.
 
Considering all the slop and junk the entertainment industry has made, it’s definitely quite very hard to directly pin down. However, each generation has their own shit entertainment and I will list a shows that I personally believe are devastating to society per generation.
Gen X: Getalong gang. One of the earliest examples of this preschool slop that has fucked the minds of not only Americans but other westerners too. The intended message had been diluted so much that it became a cheery bubblegummy excuse of a show. Many boys hated this show when it came out in the 80s. It was as hated and mocked as Barney was in the 90s. As this show favored groupthink over individualism, as a young gen X boy living through the last decade of cold war, I genuinely thought it came from the Soviet Union or had been written by a communist. The show promoted the idea that the majority is always right and those who dissent are wrong. Sounds like the far left of today. Many 80s cartoons were 30 minute toy commercial slop with 2 minute PSA’s at the end, but this show is the worst since it was not just slop, but adored by the moral guardians(some of whom part of the PMRC of then.

Millennials: Captain Planet. I would have put that purple demon on here but it’s live action. This show corrupted many minds of millennials when it aired in the early 90s. This show pushes a similar lefty hippie marxist garbage, albeit with a environmental twist. There is one major example which can give you a idea of how evil and satanic this show is. There was one pseudo PSA where Captain Planet tells kids if they are older that they should have less kids in the name of the environment and that the global south is their humanity. Do you see how much Marxism there is within this PSA? Depopulation, radical environmentalism, and multiculturalism. There are way too many examples with this show for me to go over.

Gen Z: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. In the early 2010s, a generation of young fat ugly male nerds decided it was one day a good day to start watching a little girl shows about ponies. Yes, you heard me right, ponies. This show was pure feminine, there is nothing for males in this show. It made no sense for men to be this invasive. Within weeks, the socalled “bronies” started doing degenerate and sadistic stuff with this franchise, stuff so vile it’s better off not said. This type of erosion of boundaries predates the woke era of autogynephilic men entering in and violating women’s spaces (i.e prisons, lockers, changing rooms, etc). The damage didn’t just stop there, it created the visual language and moral code of the woke left which they would later use to kill (what little there was left of) animation and gaming. In 5 years(2010-2015), the three cable channels went from being youth spaces to spaces where the animated shows pander to childless Tumblr weirdos. This show’s morality likely even influenced the woke blockbusters of the late 2010s if you ask me. It was that influential.

Gen Alpha: Cocomelon. Look at how many views this channel has. Gen Alpha is truly fucked. This show is bad for very young children. Many psychologists have made videos warning parents not to let their kids watch this. Imagine a show, so addictive, so overstimulating with so many scene changes that you have psychologists sounding the alarm on this show like if it was a popular junk food brand. This goes to how evil it is. Unlike the other 3, mostly you don’t have politics being the forefront reason to condemn the show (though some people have sounded the alarm that this show is trying to push woke propaganda but more subtly, not overt), However, sadly, with the many views the content is getting, it seems the warnings to stay away from it, are falling flat on the ears of parents. If a view number represented a person and not someone watching it over and over, we are screwed. Gen Alpha is going to have zero attention span, they will be impatient and will throw the meltdown of all meltdowns. They will not want to work they will want everything instant and will destroy the economy in ways COVID couldn’t.
 
Are we trying to figure out which show has done the most damage or which show would be the worst to sit little Timmy down in front of?
i feel the worst show for little timmy would be an adult show in reality something like that drag race show or sex in the city etc etc
 
I'll still go with anime of any sort. Shit melts your brain and it's so normalized to the point where kids see adults watching this stuff and getting sucked in into gooner infested circles.
people say MLP and SU but no kid is watching this shit, its all 20+ yo trannies.
Tranime is where the real damage is
 
Adventure Time, without a doubt.

AT isn't that bad on its own. However it was the first time I ever saw adults unashamedly following and enjoying a kids cartoon (and buying merch etc.). This was further normalized with the whole "Brony" phenomenon caused by MLP (including the merch obv.). Infantilization/being an adult kid became ok, leading to the soy Nintendo lover and Funko Pop enjoyer we all know and love today.
Seeing the Adventure Time watch in Deadpool somewhat cemented this fact for me.

A little story time for more context:
After the OG era (90s) and the "Anime inspired action" era (early 2000s) Cartoon Network was stuck in a hole of mediocre cartoons and shitty live action shows (late 2000s). CN was hurting for a new hit. They got their hit show in 2010. It's name was Adventure Time. This also means that Adventure Time became the blueprint for CN shows going forward. Everyone wanted/had to be Adventure Time. This also gave the AT crew a lot of leverage in the company. Rebecca Sugar was part of that crew. You can all imagine how that ended up.

American Cartoons were never that same after AT.


Anime is a medium, not a single show. Obviously there is some egregious faggot shit anime out there, but putting it all into one bin is also retarded. It's like saying all cartoons are trash because of Steven Universe.
 
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