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Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread - Gorl Tawk's very own DMZ (De-Moidified Zone)
My experience in the past 12 hours:
> wow all deaths are horrible, even those who i disagree with
*sees trannies and leftoids celebrating death*
> maybe deaths of the people i don't get along with are okay
*sees moids post that this is because women have the right to vote and that Charlie Kirk's wife will end up with a nigger*
> i hope all men die
Keep in mind before that horrific story about Iryna's death on the train, gay dudes were wishing violence on a woman and wanted to hunt her down because a gay man felt entitled to her space, she said no and hurt his feelings.
I did not even know who the Charlie Kirk guy was, until today.
Don't forget that what happened does not seem to be a question of good vs bad, or bad vs slightly less bad, or unacceptable vs tolerable - apart from the woman-hate that likely wasn't the shooter's reason, this is a battle of two evils against each other.
Trying to have a strong moral stance on that will only drain your energy, because that's what picking between two evils does.
As he said himself: "I can't stand the word empathy, actually.I think empathy is a made -up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage." , so, don't waste any on him, because misplaced empathy is more of a problem.
It's not a superpower, it can be learned through one's own lived experience, and he wasn't able to learn it, apparently.
If you don't think women are better off with one less misogynist in the world, you shouldn't be here. No black or gay person would make these excuses for a kkk member or notorious homophobe.
Charlie is a grifter first and foremost, everything he said after got trolled by the groypers and change of stances is to make money, but on the right wing the only way you can stay and be let in anywhere is to kiss the ring and bend the knee to Isreal. He doesnt care how many babies isreal blew up or about the conflict, he cared about keeping the grift going.
This man was advocating for public executions and for children to watch. The surrealism is off the charts.
Anyway, the lesson is be careful what you put out into the universe. Sounds like a lot of what ol' Chucky publicly said came back to him in the form of that bullet.
This is what I think a lot of people IRL are forgetting. Charlie Kirk wasn't a real politician, representative, or legislator: he was a commentator. He commented on things happening and his views changed because the trends within Conservative culture changed. He was a political influencer at heart. His job was to outrage people, not make policy. Defending the 2nd Amendment to Kirk wasn't policy or principle, but rather performance. He very popularly commented on how we should lack empathy in the face of political disruption or violence. Now, we're seeing that reverberation online and offline. He mocked the grief of those who lost loved ones to gun violence, and he made content out of it. And he profited from that. That's coming back to haunt his image. He himself is now up for haunting. I'm not saying that maliciously or for goofs. Charlie Kirk is not at rest, and neither are the people who agreed with him. They will carry on his bloodlust. I think that if this was an assassination attempt, then it was one with the agenda to start a civil war among the populace and pit us against each other in an obvious Right vs. Left way.
Like many, his weird hypothetical bloodlust fantasies, whether about abortion or guns, always omitted him from the reality of his words and would-be worlds. The material reality of the situation, as we see with his death, is that when you speak violence into the world, it will speak back to you. I absolutely agree that Kirk put much out in the universe, so to speak. Death remembers your name when you talk about it too much.
For the bit of exposure to gun culture I had, it seems incredibly male dominated. Any Kiwis in this thread owning a gun being able to share a bit more about that? I'd be interested to heat it.
It is incredibly male dominated and the unmarried women in the community are usually gun bunny pick-mes. I actually can't think of a single female guntuber or page off the top of my head that isn't some mar-a-lago faced neocon with her tits out.
Gun culture is incredibly male dominated partially because of mandated military experience across the globe. Even when men aren't required to sign up for the military, they still have a path set before them in the gun world due to that historical feature of the hobby. Beyond that, the culture of violence and domination (and fantasy) that guns represent attract the male mindset.
Women in the gun culture are largely as @Mandy Stroyer said; I've experienced that exact thing. Girls do who gun stuff either got into it for personal safety reasons or grew up with it. I'm in the first category and my experiences with men in this hobby have absolutely been 50/50 harassment and helpfulness.
Like I said, I've had a 50/50 experience with men who own guns. Some men want to help you learn and think that EVERYONE should know how to shoot, defend themselves, etc. The other 50% have been bitchy exclusionists who get pissy when a woman comes near their precious deadly shooting phallus.
I come from a place where anyone and everyone has a gun. Most men in the area are former military/armed forces/etc. The man who sold me my first gun was an ex-Marine who was very nice to me, totally informative, and carefully assessed me as a future gun owner without any bias. All the tips he gave me when he saw my shooting stances were reasonable, fair, and with the intention to make me a better shooter. The male assistant helping him with the sale, about 20 years younger than him and closer to my age, was the exact same. Even though they were making sales, they were really listening to my concerns, my reasons for wanting to be a gun owner, what I'd be comfortable with, etc. I really do think that these guys, whatever biases they had about women outside of guns, were seeing me as close to an equal as possible. They're men, so I can't give them much credit besides a few hours of interaction and a surface-level interpretation. In my experience, there are men out there who really do not care if you're a woman, they just want you to be a responsible gun owner. I'm happy to say I've met quite a few men who genuinely do care about everyone in the community of gunowners, regardless of sex.
In contrast, I've met quite a few snobby assholes who are very threatened that women are interested in guns or own guns. I went to a shooting range once where both the range worker and the men on the range were essentially taking turns harassing me. The guy on the floor kept making snide insults at me and about my shooting, even though I was very clearly hitting my target, taking responsibility with my firearm's placement, having good stance, etc. It was just him posturing for the other men on the range, two of which were shooting at MY targets. You have to pay for targets to shoot on particular ranges. Shooting at someone else's target, intentionally or accidentally, is a bootable offense. But not at the Boy's Club! These men rotated their bullying. I'm old enough to recognize it for what it was: a dangerous pissing contest where one man, supposed to be the safety authority on the range, was letting anything go all for the sake of owning it to the bitch with a gun who dared to step onto HIS turf!!!!!!!!!!
These guys are not rare, and I would dare say that they are the majority of the community. Men who own guns are just men who own customizable phalluses. Their penises already have the ability to shoot and do harm and kill. To have a formalized, objectified version of that? They really WOULD kill to keep it all to themselves.
Yeah, "the community" weirds me out.
Go to a social gathering and the host brings everyone down to his big secret vault to show off his toys for all the boys to fawn and giggle over.
Young male cashier at a gunstore "jokes" about threatening to shoot one of the ladies at the county auditor's office and his three older coworkers don't say shit about it.
The range at my hometown was outdoors, and more than once Dad and I went home early because some scrote was playing plausible deniability games.
Not to mention, guns are literally made for manhands. Zero fucking reason for every single revolver grip to have gorilla dimensions.
I did not even know who the Charlie Kirk guy was, until today.
Don't forget that what happened does not seem to be a question of good vs bad, or bad vs slightly less bad, or unacceptable vs tolerable - apart from the woman-hate that likely wasn't the shooter's reason, this is a battle of two evils against each other.
Trying to have a strong moral stance on that will only drain your energy, because that's what picking between two evils does.
As he said himself: "I can't stand the word empathy, actually.I think empathy is a made -up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage." , so, don't waste any on him, because misplaced empathy is more of a problem.
It's not a superpower, it can be learned through one's own lived experience, and he wasn't able to learn it, apparently.
He was sperging about empathy vs sympathy. The whole quote was not that bad. Most quotes showing his supposed “evilness” are taken out of context like this.
Charlie Kirk was not known to have been a sex offender, a thief, violent, or to have committed any sort of crime whatsoever. His having opinions you don’t like is not remotely comparable to murder. Words. Are. Not. Evil.
Semi-related because we all should be practicing OPSEC regardless of the topic. My tumblr lurking led me to discover someone not so vaguely referencing using the farms and more specifically, almost word for word, bringing up the same talking points and views in this thread that have only been mentioned in one post. That's as obscure as I can make it. As a Gorl Tawk regular, I know many of us are on/lurking tumblr whether that's to gather info or just using it as a personal blog. It's fun to bump into each other in the wild, but this site specializes in phonebooking people. Please be careful.
Idk about this. You can scar a child for life with words, and that's pretty evil imo. You can intimidate, threaten, or coerce with words. You can also be a major cause for someone else's actions. For example, when Dominique Pelicot instructed another man on how to go about drugging and raping his wife, the other man still had to act on Dominique's words, but it's unlikely he would have committed those actions otherwise. Pelicot was not charged for raping this man's wife since he didn't do so, but he was still considered complicit. Advocating for child sexual abuse isn't harmless, either. I'd say it's downright evil. (This is all general btw, I'm not accusing anyone of doing any of this except the guy I mentioned by name.)
What I disagree with leftists on is the way they attempt to equate speech itself with physical violence, and therefore excuse physical violence as a response to speech. Words can be evil, but they aren't violence in and of themselves.
For the bit of exposure to gun culture I had, it seems incredibly male dominated. Any Kiwis in this thread owning a gun being able to share a bit more about that? I'd be interested to heat it.
It is incredibly male dominated and the unmarried women in the community are usually gun bunny pick-mes. I actually can't think of a single female guntuber or page off the top of my head that isn't some mar-a-lago faced neocon with her tits out. Plenty of male ones though. Range demographics heavily depend on your area. Where I am, it's mostly boomers. Sometimes it's parents taking their kids, new parents, or soon-to-be parents, all who genuinely want to protect their family and teach them gun safety but that's less common and they're more likely to find a quiet, out of the way area to practice than go to a range with a bunch of waddling dementia patients and USMC rejects who ignore the rules. Still mostly male though.
i have nothing spectacularly new to add, but i will fully back up what's already been said. you're going to have to deal with being talked down to and treated like a child constantly, you're going to get side-eyes and whispers at the range, and your word will never be taken for it. i've had almost every purchase i've ever made either be second guessed by the cashier like i'm an idiot or given disclaimers like i don't know what i'm buying. sure there's the 'nice' ones, but it's nice in the "i have to protect her from herself" kinda way, so i didn't really like them either. could just be my neck of the woods though, your mileage may vary.
The meltdown here has been pretty funny tbh. This website loves to meme on ~~le bad people's~~ death but when its their precious misogynist israel dickrider its absolutely OFF LIMITS and if you even joke about it youre GROUNDED GROUNDED GROUNDED. To clarify, no i dont think its funny he died. but seeing the men show how hypocritical they really are is pretty funny. They like to larp as all stoic and badass and edgy but they can be wounded just as much as any screeching liberal, lmao. Not to mention all the seething hatred directed at women who dont perform anger and sadness about it or god forbid joke about it. Talking about censoring and banning them and doxxing them. Like you all werent just having nuclear meltdowns over your loli rape simulators being cracked down on, but censorship is good when its against people who piss you off!
To clarify, no i dont think its funny he died. but seeing the men show how hypocritical they really are is pretty funny. They like to larp as all stoic and badass and edgy but they can be wounded just as much as any screeching liberal
I’m seeing some conservative men saying they’re shocked how many women want them killed and would applaud their deaths, and oh noo how will this affect dating, how can I trust a woman, as if women haven’t been reading heinous things online for years and wondering what kinds of awful thoughts the guys they know could be hiding. Just saying. Kinda stunned they think this is novel just because it’s their first time.
Already happened, although both of them got blamed. In the comments of this article (listed in the OP of the main thread). I'm sure I won't have to look a lot further to see more specific mother-blaming.
All indications point to him being radicalized by antifa furry trans online spaces so his mother will be blamed for not having 24/7 control of his internet access.
I’m seeing some conservative men saying they’re shocked how many women want them killed and would applaud their death, and oh noo how will this affect dating, how can I trust a woman, as if women haven’t been reading heinous things online for years and wondering what kinds of awful thoughts the guys they know could be hiding. Just saying. Kinda stunned they think this is novel just because it’s their first time.
It's such bullshit, isn't it? Men will arouse themselves and teach themselves to desire hideous, dangerous, evil acts that outside of pornography would be illegal. They get off to the degradation, abuse, and humiliation of women. And then they go outside and look at us and really tell themselves that their porn viewing habits will NOT in any way change how they interact with women or how they view women as a whole.
But women expressing they don't care about men in their lives who have wronged them and fantasize about their suffering? Too far and indicative of social decline, apparently. Why woman want bad thing happen to man just because he do bad thing to her?????
Shooter's mom seems like a turbo normie who loved her son and was proud of his achievements. She expressed a lot of hope and optimism for his future. I can't imagine the horror and grief she feels knowing he's ruined both his own life and the lives of another mother and her children. I feel terrible for her.
I’m seeing some conservative men saying they’re shocked how many women want them killed and would applaud their death, and oh noo how will this affect dating
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