Law 4chan and Kiwi Farms Sue the UK Over its Age Verification Law - The notorious troll sites filed a lawsuit in U.S. federal court as part of a fight over the UK's Online Safety Act.

https://www.404media.co/4chan-and-kiwi-farms-sue-the-uk-over-its-age-verification-law/
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26076733-govuscourtsdcd28421810-1/

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4chan and Kiwi Farms sued the United Kingdom’s Office of Communications (Ofcom) over its age verification law in U.S. federal court Wednesday, fulfilling a promise it announced on August 23. In the lawsuit, 4chan and Kiwi Farms claim that threats and fines they have received from Ofcom “constitute foreign judgments that would restrict speech under U.S. law.”

Both entities say in the lawsuit that they are wholly based in the U.S. and that they do not have any operations in the United Kingdom and are therefore not subject to local laws. Ofcom’s attempts to fine and block 4chan and Kiwi Farms, and the lawsuit against Ofcom, highlight the messiness involved with trying to restrict access to specific websites or to force companies to comply with age verification laws.

The lawsuit calls Ofcom an “industry-funded global censorship bureau.”

“Ofcom’s ambitions are to regulate Internet communications for the entire world, regardless of where these websites are based or whether they have any connection to the UK,” the lawsuit states. “On its website, Ofcom states that ‘over 100,000 online services are likely to be in scope of the Online Safety Act—from the largest social media platforms to the smallest community forum.’”

Both 4chan and Kiwi Farms are notorious online communities that are infamous for their largely anything-goes attitude. Users of both forums have been tied to various doxing and harassment campaigns over the years. Still, they have now become the entities fighting the hardest against the UK’s disastrous Online Safety Act, which requires websites and social media platforms to perform invasive age verification checks on their users, which often requires people to upload an ID or otherwise give away their personal information in order to access large portions of the internet. Sites that do not comply are subject to huge fines, regardless of where they are based. The law has resulted in an internet where users need to provide scans of their faces in order to access, for example, certain music videos on Spotify.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation has said the Online Safety Act “is a threat to the privacy of users, restricts free expression by arbitrating speech online, exposes users to algorithmic discrimination through face checks, and leaves millions of people without a personal device or form of ID excluded from accessing the internet.”

Ofcom began investigating 4chan over alleged violations of the Online Safety Act in June. On August 13, it announced a provisional decision and stated that 4chan had “contravened its duties” and then began to charge the site a penalty of £20,000 (roughly $26,000) a day. Kiwi Farms has also been threatened with fines, the lawsuit states.

"American citizens do not surrender our constitutional rights just because Ofcom sends us an e-mail. In the face of these foreign demands, our clients have bravely chosen to assert their constitutional rights," Preston Byrne, one of the lawyers representing 4chan and Kiwi Farms, told 404 Media.

"We are aware of the lawsuit," an Ofcom spokesperson told 404 Media. "Under the Online Safety Act, any service that has links with the UK now has duties to protect UK users, no matter where in the world it is based. The Act does not, however, require them to protect users based anywhere else in the world.”

Update: This story has been updated with a comment from Ofcom.
 
I wonder if one side effect of this is that perhaps Josh will increase his network of sympathizing legal professionals. It doesn't hurt to have friends in that area just in case the forum eventually needs a little more firepower than just Hardin can provide. I think it's a good sign that Byrne has demonstrated enthusiasm in the case despite the controversial Plaintiffs. I wonder what Ron Coleman's thoughts on it all are.
 
though he still needs to be admitted to litigate in the district of columbia, doesn't he?
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It's a formality but he'll either actually be admitted by motion or just practice pro hac vice with Coleman (who is licensed in D.C.) acting as local counsel. Until then, Coleman will be signing the papers.
 
Do you think Reddit or Twitch are described as the following?

Kiwi Farms has earned a nasty reputation for coordinated harassment campaigns that have gotten the forum booted from services like Cloudflare and DreamHost.

Both 4chan and Kiwi Farms are notorious online communities that are infamous for their largely anything-goes attitude. Users of both forums have been tied to various doxing and harassment campaigns over the years.
"Reddit has earned a reputation of hosting and encouraging extremely mentally ill individuals to spiral downwards until they murder innocent children in churches"

Interesting none of these "news" sites can name any even one of these "coordinated harassment campaigns"? What "harrassment campaign" have users been linked to?

The first one specifically references Cloudflare, the company which directly refused to state what the actual reason was, and when pressed....still couldn't.

If anything KIWIFARMS has been the target of "harassment campaigns", as seen by Cloudflare and DreamHost. And if KF users identified themselves like the twitter trannies does ANYONE think the level of harassment they would personally get wouldn't be of an untold magnitude?
 
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It's a shame you couldn't sue the UK directly. 4chan and Kiwi Farms v. The United Kingdom would be a much funnier case citation.
National sovereignty. In this case, they set up OFCOM in a sneaky, corrupt way so that it can pretend not to be an appendage of the UK government, but that means it doesn't get the sovereignty shield, so they kind of fucked up there if they wanted to use this Ministry of Truth body to go after Americans.

Since it has to get its own money by shaking down businesses, you see the obvious incentive for corruption.
 
OFCOM broke US law and threatened to fine 4Chan and KF £18M.
Seems suitable relief would be for them to pay 4C and KF £18M each. Plus costs.
They did admit to having £250M burning a hole in their pocket.
 
Can High TERF Rowling be given monarch status of the UK so she can level it and turn it into a shitty theme park?
>The Wizarding World of Harry Potter is opened
>All British politicians, lords and royals are executed; the government is replaced by the Ministry of Magic
>Houses of Parliament and the surrounding area are demolished; the land is used to build Hogwarts Castle
>Britcucks are forced under penalty of death to wear wizard clothes and refer to foreign tourists as "muggles"
>Usage of technology invented after the 19th century is banned to preserve authenticity
 
Didn't Jersh block the UK ips months ago?

They can't expect anything else from him.

Do they think Dear Feeder can call every vpn and ask them if their customer is from the UK?

If they don't want the farms, they can just block the IP like troons already did.

Is the entire UK government LESS conpetent than Keffals?
 
Didn't Jersh block the UK ips months ago?

They can't expect anything else from him.
The IPs were unblocked after the site had to be reconfigured due to a consent coding accident. Ofcom noticed this rapidly in the brief time it was available again and sent another letter. At some point he must have gotten in touch with the pro bono lawyer who wanted to humiliate UKucks. And the rest of history is still being written.
 
I'm just saying, if KF was based out of India the UK wouldn't even dare try anything lest Parliament and Buckingham palace are stormed by Pakis once the servers responsible for running the Britbong Orwellian surveillance in India are 'accidentally' turned off.
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If there are non-compliant websites that the UK has an issue with it, then they should go full China and make their own "great firewall" because the onus would be on them if they want to present a subset of the internet to their users, not the rest of the world.

Maybe they're worried about the bad optics about doing such a thing but I don't think that's a concern of theirs at this point. More likely, they really just want to monitor what everyone does and it isn't about protecting anyone. That's why they say it is about protecting children and in the next breath urge you not to use a VPN. Why? If you use a VPN, then some kid somewhere will somehow consequently be exposed to some restricted material?
 
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