Law 4chan and Kiwi Farms Sue the UK Over its Age Verification Law - The notorious troll sites filed a lawsuit in U.S. federal court as part of a fight over the UK's Online Safety Act.

https://www.404media.co/4chan-and-kiwi-farms-sue-the-uk-over-its-age-verification-law/
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26076733-govuscourtsdcd28421810-1/

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4chan and Kiwi Farms sued the United Kingdom’s Office of Communications (Ofcom) over its age verification law in U.S. federal court Wednesday, fulfilling a promise it announced on August 23. In the lawsuit, 4chan and Kiwi Farms claim that threats and fines they have received from Ofcom “constitute foreign judgments that would restrict speech under U.S. law.”

Both entities say in the lawsuit that they are wholly based in the U.S. and that they do not have any operations in the United Kingdom and are therefore not subject to local laws. Ofcom’s attempts to fine and block 4chan and Kiwi Farms, and the lawsuit against Ofcom, highlight the messiness involved with trying to restrict access to specific websites or to force companies to comply with age verification laws.

The lawsuit calls Ofcom an “industry-funded global censorship bureau.”

“Ofcom’s ambitions are to regulate Internet communications for the entire world, regardless of where these websites are based or whether they have any connection to the UK,” the lawsuit states. “On its website, Ofcom states that ‘over 100,000 online services are likely to be in scope of the Online Safety Act—from the largest social media platforms to the smallest community forum.’”

Both 4chan and Kiwi Farms are notorious online communities that are infamous for their largely anything-goes attitude. Users of both forums have been tied to various doxing and harassment campaigns over the years. Still, they have now become the entities fighting the hardest against the UK’s disastrous Online Safety Act, which requires websites and social media platforms to perform invasive age verification checks on their users, which often requires people to upload an ID or otherwise give away their personal information in order to access large portions of the internet. Sites that do not comply are subject to huge fines, regardless of where they are based. The law has resulted in an internet where users need to provide scans of their faces in order to access, for example, certain music videos on Spotify.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation has said the Online Safety Act “is a threat to the privacy of users, restricts free expression by arbitrating speech online, exposes users to algorithmic discrimination through face checks, and leaves millions of people without a personal device or form of ID excluded from accessing the internet.”

Ofcom began investigating 4chan over alleged violations of the Online Safety Act in June. On August 13, it announced a provisional decision and stated that 4chan had “contravened its duties” and then began to charge the site a penalty of £20,000 (roughly $26,000) a day. Kiwi Farms has also been threatened with fines, the lawsuit states.

"American citizens do not surrender our constitutional rights just because Ofcom sends us an e-mail. In the face of these foreign demands, our clients have bravely chosen to assert their constitutional rights," Preston Byrne, one of the lawyers representing 4chan and Kiwi Farms, told 404 Media.

"We are aware of the lawsuit," an Ofcom spokesperson told 404 Media. "Under the Online Safety Act, any service that has links with the UK now has duties to protect UK users, no matter where in the world it is based. The Act does not, however, require them to protect users based anywhere else in the world.”

Update: This story has been updated with a comment from Ofcom.
 
Up your ass with broken glass, Ofcom! I hope every Limey cuck who works for them gets raped by niggers and dune coons. Buncha limp-dick retards. Fucking Red Coats never fucking learn.
 
Ofcom could offer Null and Hiroyuki something like a joint confidential settlement which pays substantially more if both parties agree to drop the suit. Hiroyuki wants the extra money and Null wants to continue the suit. The parties now have a conflict.
We're not even making an economic demand, just seeking a DJ and maybe fees ("other such relief as the court may deem just"). Even if something like that happens, it still doesn't make our interests adverse, and it isn't something that's obviously going to happen.

Any co-representation presents at least the potential of a conflict, but this is trivial and waivable.
 
I don't really get why people on this site dislike Taylor Lorentz
She has the same interests we do, she just goes about it in a different way
Consistently covers attacks on online freedom of speech
Very systematically cuts through USA/UK government bullshit
 
Time for those red coats to lose a SECOND war of independence!
We beat you with muskets, and now you'll get America's second favorite weapon: LITIGATION
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We're not even making an economic demand, just seeking a DJ and maybe fees ("other such relief as the court may deem just"). Even if something like that happens, it still doesn't make our interests adverse, and it isn't something that's obviously going to happen.
I was wondering why they didn't explicitly ask for lawyer fees, since the Counts at the end said "Ofcom’s improper service has caused 4chan/KF to incur legal expenses". That's real damages that should be addressed and remedied. It can be included as "other such relief", but is it actually too early to claim it?

especially since they both owned "farms" and even had a bunch of chained up niggers too.
They prefer to be called jannies, please be considerate.
 
I don't really get why people on this site dislike Taylor Lorentz
She has the same interests we do, she just goes about it in a different way
Consistently covers attacks on online freedom of speech
Very systematically cuts through USA/UK government bullshit
She tried to get the site de-platformed and spreads libelous lies about us. Read her thread.
 
>go to 4chan
>look on /pol/ and /g/ for threads talking about the lawsuit
>few threads with no replies
>boards just full of bbc posting and ai goon posting respectively

feels bad man.
I imagine the Farms are blocked on principle, jeets and troons tend to dislike having a mirror held up to them and 4chan tends to block external links.

I have to get a bit sentimental when I say that Kiwifarms are the only site I have ever experienced where I could express myself completely freely, I don't mind being called a retard for my takes, but I like having them, and I intend to have them going forward,. It's just a shame that a forum gossiping about retards is one of the best bastions of free speech, I love Null's disdain for authority and I willl support it until I am unable. Unfortunately the closest my country has is a forum that's better than most but is clearly fed infested since long ago, with borderline reddit moderation. Still it's alright (which is a shame).


When are you doing your next merch run @Null ?

Because while writing this post I have realized I might actually want to support you, even if I don't agree with a lot of your takes I don't want this shithole taken down.
 
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