💬 Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Less Than Zero]

The allure of the troonish name is so hard that even in this circumstance they want to choose fucking Lunetta instead of a normal name chosen by their supportive disabled mother.

Yea this user is dumb and Alyssa just sounds so much better. I'm not debating that some people make stupid decisions (I know a pooner who changed his name from Brooke to Brook, lmao but this doesn't invalidate the concept.

Aside from being lies, preferred pronouns are rohypnol. You can't ask people to willfully (and forcibly) rewire their brains to consider men as women and vice versa.

I don't see "biology" when meeting people. I know pooners who would otherwise look and act like men, and vice versa. It's more of what this author is saying to actually misgender them, because it'd take a conscious denial of what I'm seeing to do so.
I'm taking the path of least resistance here

 

[The Morning Visitor]

I know a pooner who changed his name from Brooke to Brook

Even going the "path of least resistance", the name "Brock" is right there. Can't even masculinize her name right. I guess it's better than just picking a name that was cool 30 years ago, like Aiden, Max or Trevor.

 

[Thursday]

I do think it's dumb to not address trans people by their preferred pronouns. Yes, even down to Chris-Chan, if I met her IRL I would.
You're not hurting anyone directly by doing it and could make someone's day, even if you have your disagreements

I hard disagree with this. I've never once been able to call one of the overly non-passing trans people as their preferred pronouns without feeling an immense internal "ick".

This became so apparent to me that I felt this that I began to get highly irritated at how we have to be polite to trans people at all costs because of how they feel on the inside but how I feel no longer matters in the situation. The irony of how I can't prove to anyone that's what it makes me feel and yet I have to believe every trans person on how they feel on the inside? No thanks I'll be the one to pass here.

Moreover, dealing with this while I still hadn't had enough of transmania, I referred to those ones as "they", thinking that was the best course of action because I thought that was okay to use for everyone but then that became an issue within the trans community too, trans people getting exclusively they/them'd is also a "problem" to a lot of them so I'd rather not play along at all anymore.

 

[DavidS877]

I hard disagree with this. I've never once been able to call one of the overly non-passing trans people as their preferred pronouns without feeling an immense internal "ick".

There is a semi-public person of trans in my area who I've never met but sometimes discuss in mixed company. I always use his last name only or avoid the name altogether rather than his correct or incorrect pronouns or troon name.

 

[The Morning Visitor]

I referred to those ones as "they", thinking that was the best course of action because I thought that was okay to use for everyone but then that became an issue within the trans community too, trans people getting exclusively they/them'd is also a "problem" to a lot of them so I'd rather not play along at all anymore.

It's never enough. If you were in court on the witness stand and you had to give testimony, the troon defendant and their lawyer would be listening for affirmation (or really the avoidance of affirmation) to try to get your testimony thrown out. It's a real situation of "the emperor has no clothes", but also "the emperor is aware that he has no clothes", "the emperor is self-conscious about his nakedness", and "the emperor has the institutional power to discredit your opinion and experience if you do not positively confirm that he is wearing clothes".

They/Them should be a perfectly acceptable way to refer to a self-declared transwoman or transman. Their "enby" allies have spent the past decade making the case that we already use a singular They/Them for people whose sex we do not know, or even as a casual, occasional stand-in for He/She/Him/Her. But it's not good enough for most of them, because avoiding pronouns and chosen names (or using neutral pronouns) shows that you're aware of what they're trying to be and you disagree that they are that thing, you're just not enough of a dick to publicly call them by their biological sex. It's an act of polite defiance and it possibly drives them more nuts than being called slurs or their sex because they can't chalk up being They/Themmed to you being a bigot.

 

[Less Than Zero]

This became so apparent to me that I felt this that I began to get highly irritated at how we have to be polite to trans people at all costs because of how they feel on the inside but how I feel no longer matters in the situation. The irony of how I can't prove to anyone that's what it makes me feel and yet I have to believe every trans person on how they feel on the inside? No thanks I'll be the one to pass here.

It doesn't matter if you feel like shit, as long as others feel happy around you. This is called being a good person

 

[GenderCop]

You're not hurting anyone directly by doing it and could make someone's day, even if you have your disagreements

Yes, you hurt the troon by giving into their delusions.

We do not tell the poor they are rich and can go take up residence on Park Ave for free, we do not tell little boys they can bench press 200 lbs and we don't tell people with terminal illnesses they are just fine--we tell them the truth.

When the homeless person tells us he is Albert Einstein, we do not start speaking to him in German. We do not give in to his dangerous and untrue delusion. We do not have to be deliberately cruel about it, but likewise, no reason to call him Dr Einstein when we know that is not his real name.

You hurt people by codding them and giving into madness.

It leaves them incapable of even the basics of self-care. When expected to be sane and support themselves financially, they have no idea how to do it and find normal behavior and normal jobs an outrageous demand.

When you treat people like precious little hothouse orchids, this is what you get.
People are harmed directly by lies, which is why pathological liars have few friends.

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

You can't ask people to willfully (and forcibly) rewire their brains to consider men as women and vice versa.

You can't control how people name and talk about you. Even if you are the village Chad and have slept with every woman in your village, as soon as you fuck your first goat you are hence known as the goatfucker. Even a pronoun is forced speech. If you try and force me to think of you with a certain pronoun, you get a vivid drogatory descripror instead. Human corectly gendered pronouns are a privilege, not a right.

 

[Wallace]

Human society runs on a shared reality. On what is easily perceived and commonly known as true. Like sex differences. Someone's subjective gender identity is in direct conflict with that. It can't be affirmed or accommodated because it's not real. Attempting to creates chaos and genuine harm.

Which is why queer theory tries so hard to destroy reality.

 

[Thursday]

It doesn't matter if you feel like shit, as long as others feel happy around you. This is called being a good person

So trannies are allowed to make people feel like shit and still maintain this arbitrary "good person" status?

Why does how trans people feel matter more than the vast majority of people? Do whatever you want to your body or be whatever "identity" you want to be, but I'm not going to call a man who raped his mother a woman in order to be seen as a "good person".

 

[Twix Eatr]

Which is why queer theory tries so hard to destroy reality.

If people can't even define what they're discussing, there's no chance to protect what's vulnerable. The destruction of definitions is purposeful and is oriented toward normalizing fucking children. How can a society logically affirm a child as mature enough to dictate whether they're a boy or girl, but put their foot down on whether that child can have an adult partner? It can't.

I do think it's dumb to not address trans people by their preferred pronouns. Yes, even down to Chris-Chan, if I met her IRL I would.
You're not hurting anyone directly by doing it and could make someone's day, even if you have your disagreements

I think it's absurd that anyone thinks it's okay to coerce me to lie about reality. It's directly hurtful to play a role in this anti-reality charade. Why would I want to "make someone's day" when that means participating in their immoral kink?

 

[neu]

I tend to compromise and use "gender neutral" pronouns because I don't think it matters that much regardless of how I personally feel about it. That said, I do think that to "be nice" in this situation really is just to lie to some extent. But, more importantly in my opinion, I find it hard to understand how someone can genuinely want to be the opposite sex and not be bothered by the prospect that people only refer to them as such not because they're truly perceived that way, but only because there's a social pressure to do so.

 

[Twix Eatr]

I tend to compromise and use "gender neutral" pronouns because I don't think it matters that much regardless of how I personally feel about it. That said, I do think that to "be nice" in this situation really is just to lie to some extent. But, more importantly in my opinion, I find it hard to understand how someone can genuinely want to be the opposite sex and not be bothered by the prospect that people only refer to them as such not because they're truly perceived that way, but only because there's a social pressure to do so.

Because they aren't the vulnerable, oppressed minorities deserving of your kindness and empathy, homie. They are assholes interested in dominating you. It's a power display where they've opted into an "oppression" that is actually the oppressor. The AGP's get off on you begrudgingly accepting their kink, being forced to play along.

This is why you must reject the bullshit and quit capitulating to narcissists testing how obedient you'll be. If we continue folding on this, we'll keep losing our rights to speak freely about anything, let alone reality itself. They don't want "kindness" of pronouns, but total obedience and acquiescence. It won't stop at pronouns. They are seeking to undermine reality itself.

They know they're not the opposite sex. They know you know they're not the opposite sex. They know you don't want to deny reality and wish to speak the truth. This is the battle. They want to pressure you so much that you give in and go along with nonsense. Please do not. It's more than pronouns. Seriously.

 

[neu]

Because they aren't the vulnerable, oppressed minorities deserving of your kindness and empathy, homie.

Yeah, I figured that out a while ago but I've since avoided interacting with trannies so it's not like there's much room for me to be coerced by them. In a similar vein, the main reason I'm willing to compromise on minor things like that is because usually I can't really be bothered to argue with them -- it's like talking to a wall most of the time. I could go on about how I find trannies annoying, sure, but these days I find it more interesting to examine how the entire concept is propagated by lies. I mean, I also just find it kind of funny / ironic that, when they make others put up with their bullshit, they're kind of doing it at their own expense at the end of the day.

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

Because they aren't the vulnerable, oppressed minorities deserving of your kindness and empathy, homie. They are assholes interested in dominating you. It's a power display where they've opted into an "oppression" that is actually the oppressor. The AGP's get off on you begrudgingly accepting their kink, being forced to play along.

This is why you must reject the bullshit and quit capitulating to narcissists testing how obedient you'll be. If we continue folding on this, we'll keep losing our rights to speak freely about anything, let alone reality itself. They don't want "kindness" of pronouns, but total obedience and acquiescence. It won't stop at pronouns. They are seeking to undermine reality itself.

They know they're not the opposite sex. They know you know they're not the opposite sex. They know you don't want to deny reality and wish to speak the truth. This is the battle. They want to pressure you so much that you give in and go along with nonsense. Please do not. It's more than pronouns. Seriously.

More people need to spread around the story of "the professor", who worked on Concord. It's a really scary glimpse of where this crap would go next.

Basically a woman decided she identified as a professor, her pronouns were "the professor", and the company she worked for actually enforced this. She was not a professor in any way shape or form at any point in her life, but people who didn't call her one could lose their job. I'm sure it made her very happy and yes technically it didn't hurt anyone to say it, but it's still absolute insanity and shouldn't be encouraged.

These people are narcissistic and never satisfied by anything. They've already made it somewhat mainstream to claim you just opted out of biology, something that would have been seen as laughable just a decade ago. More crap like this was coming next if the giant pushback didn't start; half of them need to keep inventing new ways to get attention and the other half need to constantly fight back the voice in their heads that's trying to acknowledge that they did every surgery and took all the medicine and they're still not happy.

And remember: they've made it very clear that they are the only thing that matters. A quick search through these threads and you'll find horrific stuff where people put even the health of their own newborns under their desire to play pretend. And people have cheered them on.

The slippery slope is 100% real, and coddling these freaks even in small ways is just going to lead to them being allowed to barge into hospitals and declare they're doctors, so get out cause they have to start your kids' surgery and don't you dare try to cancel because if you do they're gonna kill themselves and it'll be all your fault.

 

[Less Than Zero]

Because they aren't the vulnerable, oppressed minorities deserving of your kindness and empathy, homie. They are assholes interested in dominating you. It's a power display where they've opted into an "oppression" that is actually the oppressor. The AGP's get off on you begrudgingly accepting their kink, being forced to play along.

They aren't trying to dominate you, they just want to live their lives. Making them out to be a threat helps no one but your paranoid delusions

So trannies are allowed to make people feel like shit and still maintain this arbitrary "good person" status

Misgendering someone is a form of harassment, regardless of what you might think about it

Anyways
I find it fascinating how subtly trans people have certain stereotypes. For example, ftms are always seen as much less threatening than cis men within the friend groups I'm in. I would say that it might be because women are stereotypically seen as that, but I'm not sure.
I also disagree with other posts here, I do think trans people improve emotionally from transitioning at least from what my trans friends have told me

You hurt people by codding them and giving into madness.

As opposed to letting them live on with untreatable gender dysphoria?!

 

[FOUND YOU!]

Misgendering someone is a form of harassment, regardless of what you might think about it

But I don’t agree with your definition of misgendering. I believe gender is sex based, not self identity based. How is it fair to accuse me of harassment for not adhering to your same belief structure?

Anyways
I find it fascinating how subtly trans people have certain stereotypes. For example, ftms are always seen as much less threatening than cis men within the friend groups I'm in. I would say that it might be because women are stereotypically seen as that, but I'm not sure.

It’s because women aren’t stereotypically less threatening, it’s because women actually are less threatening. It’s a result of biology and that doesn’t suddenly change because someone starts claiming to be the opposite sex.

I also disagree with other posts here, I do think trans people improve emotionally from transitioning at least from what my trans friends have told me

There’s plenty of direct testimony of trans identified people saying it’s made them happier, but just because someone says they’re happier doesn’t mean it’s true. I can’t speak for your friends, I hope they are content, but the stuff I see coming out of those communities does not seem to be a result of stable or happy people.

As opposed to letting them live on with untreatable gender dysphoria?!

I would want treatments and therapy to help them come to terms with their biological sex, instead of enabling a fantasy and putting them to a lifetime of medicalization and surgery to chase a dream.

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

I find it fascinating how subtly trans people have certain stereotypes. For example, ftms are always seen as much less threatening than cis men within the friend groups I'm in. I would say that it might be because women are stereotypically seen as that, but I'm not sure.

Women are more agreable on average, and how threatening someone is perceived as is directly realted to a judgement we all internally make on your abillity to deliver violence. This is why big guys often have these super sweet personalities, they know they are scary and have to compensate. No-one is scared of a trans man. And I tbink a lot of trans women get off on scareing women.

 

[Twix Eatr]

They aren't trying to dominate you, they just want to live their lives. Making them out to be a threat helps no one but your paranoid delusions

Fuck off, troon defender.

 

[GenderCop]

As opposed to letting them live on with untreatable gender dysphoria?!

do you believe in Santa Claus too?