Youtube General thread (formerly Youtube Censorship discussion thread)

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These days, I had been watching political discourse videos and game criticism videos. However, my experience was suspiciously unencumbered after what happened at August 12.
I decided to test my experience by trying to watch this video, which was blocked a the time:
I actually could watch the video.
I am currently downloading my favourites and other videos while I am still allowed.
 
They were definitely doing something a few hours ago. FreeTube was stopping at random and mpv+yt-dlp was refusing to work at all, which is exceedingly rare.
 
Brabbit Narp powiedział(a):
Mmm, that is indeed part of the issue when it comes to any potential reuploads. Take AMVs for instance. While I was never very invested into the AMV scene, I do have fond memories of going on early YouTube and spotting a few amateur but earnest efforts slicing together the songs of the day with any number of visuals. Some of them were actually even good. But the very nature of those videos meant they were more or less doomed the moment YouTube began to gain more notoriety in the public's eye. Oh how I wish I knew some means to actually save and download videos from back in the day. I was vaguely aware of programs like FRAPS and Hypercam2, but my understanding was those needed to be paid for, or otherwise needed something I was not able to provide. For context, I was just getting online for the first time around this point, so my tech knowledge was in the dirt as far as combing for suitable websites and/or programs good for the purpose. But if I could go back in time just for a moment with something like YouTube-Dl/DLP? I would harvest loads upon loads of videos that have since been deleted for over a decade and a half. Those videos weren't much by today's standards, but they had heart and soul put into them. Even with the advent of the YouTube Creator program and the like, those videos that were made simply to be shared and appreciated still dominated. I mentioned it back in the Old Internet thread, but I still want to find a way to grab some of those videos that are so tantalizingly close, ones that have been privated, yet could still remain *somewhere* on YouTube's servers.
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I wish I could have seen youtube when it was driven by creativity. There has always been slop videos in some form but atleast 5-10 years ago you had more room for error before getting striked and what there used to be felt much more organic. Thankfully it hasn't become completely moderated yet and with old playlists we can get past most of the shorts and spam. The playlists save me so much effort, I can just put them into JDownloader and collect all of the links without much effort.

At least the age verification has done something good for me because it finally made me go from being an internet peasant, to at least an internet yeoman or something and start archiving. It's a shame I only started now and waited for years owning nothing and being happy on my my hard drive lol. If you want to archive these next 6 months are going to be your best last chance for if they start gating off parts of the internet with ID. Youtube has been getting worse with jeetcode ui and content mills but they are still holding 15 years of actual human-made projects hostage which has been one of the few reasons to keep coming back to the site. But yeah, everyone here probably thinks along the same lines already.

Thanks for the elder scrolls channel though. I appreciate more videos that aren't just more lore or video essay slop. If you all are looking for more to archive here's a couple more of my own favourites:
 
Gorion powiedział(a):
I wish I could have seen youtube when it was driven by creativity.
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just go to archive.org, look up YouTube and bask in the glory. It was people just being people doing simple silly things for the sake of entertainment. No one was being a money-hungry piece of shit. Video editing was amateurish but genuine (half the time from Windows Movie Maker). Each profile had a similar design to Myspace where you could customize it and leave comment/posts on their wall. Truly the best of times.
 
Brabbit Narp powiedział(a):
Mmm, that is indeed part of the issue when it comes to any potential reuploads. Take AMVs for instance. While I was never very invested into the AMV scene, I do have fond memories of going on early YouTube and spotting a few amateur but earnest efforts slicing together the songs of the day with any number of visuals. Some of them were actually even good. But the very nature of those videos meant they were more or less doomed the moment YouTube began to gain more notoriety in the public's eye. Oh how I wish I knew some means to actually save and download videos from back in the day. I was vaguely aware of programs like FRAPS and Hypercam2, but my understanding was those needed to be paid for, or otherwise needed something I was not able to provide. For context, I was just getting online for the first time around this point, so my tech knowledge was in the dirt as far as combing for suitable websites and/or programs good for the purpose. But if I could go back in time just for a moment with something like YouTube-Dl/DLP? I would harvest loads upon loads of videos that have since been deleted for over a decade and a half. Those videos weren't much by today's standards, but they had heart and soul put into them. Even with the advent of the YouTube Creator program and the like, those videos that were made simply to be shared and appreciated still dominated. I mentioned it back in the Old Internet thread, but I still want to find a way to grab some of those videos that are so tantalizingly close, ones that have been privated, yet could still remain *somewhere* on YouTube's servers.
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I'm going to give a white pill. I realized recently about archiving old YouTube, which you may or may not agree with, but it's, in my opinion, the electrifying truth:90 percent of the content that was deleted from YouTube didn't matter; the majority of it was very low-quality reuploads of media that exists elsewhere, like your example of AMVs or this old fan-made music video I found of the Evanescence song "Hello."
There are probably hundreds of fan-made videos from 18 years ago you can still find when searching YouTube, and what do they all have in common? They all suck lol. They are all in very poor quality, most not even reaching 480p quality. Sure, there is some nostalgia too in these videos, like the description discussing the videos' rankings at the time, a now defunct feature, but overall this was just a poor-quality reupload that exists in much higher quality. You could even recreate AMVs using DVDs and CDs and publish them in way higher quality than you could ever find on old YouTube.

Another example of how most of old YouTube is archived in other formats is comedy reuploads. Recently I was reading Wikipedia and somehow ended up on the page for Doug Stanhope, one of my old favorites from my angsty teenage years, so I decided to go down memory lane and see how much of his comedy is on YouTube and how much of it will be preserved should it shut down. What I noticed was just about every single clip I could find was a low-quality reupload of his DVDs and CDs, with many of them linking places to buy his comedy in the description and some even having Spanish subtitles, so if YouTube shuts down, his comedy will still be available in much higher-quality formats, and this goes for just about every music album, movie, or comedian you can think of.

To sum up this long rant, most, if not all, of the content from old YouTube that mattered is available in much higher quality on other formats like DVD and CD, so pretty much none of it will be lost media. Don't be blackpilled because you didn't download Naruto; bring me to life AMV #420 in 2007.
 
The Ultimate Ramotith powiedział(a):
JDownloader 2 says tha the video is not available and that you need age-verification of a video that admittedly require such verification.
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JD2 can't bypass Youtube's age restriction. I said it in earlier posts: as far as I'm concerned, only y2matego works at the moment.

Unrelated, but I was checking a channel I've been watching for the last couple of years and it looks like it got nuked. Poor guy. I know for a fact that this was his only source of income. I wonder what happened.
 
relevant again "for the children" we must shut you up. there's literally a "Clippy revolution" Now because of this ai age verification bullshit. yes; they want to do that. they want to use an ai to determine your age then force you to give them your drivers license or credit/debit card. in case you were living under a rock or something.
 
Can't wait for the day to see when you need REALID verification to watch any YouTube video lmao. I already cut youtube out of my life nearly 100% thankfully.
 
Lonjil powiedział(a):
Can't wait for the day to see when you need REALID verification to watch any YouTube video lmao.
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"oh whoops, looks like YouTube got ransomware'd/hacked, now everyones IDs are out in the open!"

Either that, or YouTubers will see a significant decrease in their viewers, which will greatly effect whatever shitty income they were getting in the first place.
 
Celebrate Nite powiedział(a):
"oh whoops, looks like YouTube got ransomware'd/hacked, now everyones IDs are out in the open!"

Either that, or YouTubers will see a significant decrease in their viewers, which will greatly effect whatever shitty income they were getting in the first place.
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Always super weird how right after demanding more and more data governments/private corps always get hacked and our data is stolen. Really strange how that happens all the time
 
The Ultimate Ramotith powiedział(a):
Both yt-dlp and JDownloader 2 broke again. This time, yt-dlp gets this error: 'The following content is not available on this app.. Watch on the latest version of YouTube.'
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I'm getting that error too.

GrayJay just pushed out updates to the YouTube plugin and the app itself. Downloads work fine. That gives me some hope that other YT downloaders / apps will be fixed soon too.
 
ArgonianVoter powiedział(a):
i'm on my own journey of doing the same brother. we need creators to use other websites instead of just jewtube.
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I've already uploaded a few videos to Rumble because my YT account is done thanks to their anti-VPN practices. The only thing I don't like about Rumble is that they want your phone number to "verify" your account if you want to use live chat. I barely use any kind of chat on the Internet, but I hope they don't go any further with such policies.
 
The latest version of yt-dlp now orks with YouTube. Apparently, that website now requires a sleep of at least 6 seconds.
I feel that is partially a reaction to the many people panic-downloading in the wake of AI age verification.
By the by, back then and now, I had yt-dlp use the website cookies exported by this add-on, reccomended by the authors of yt-dlp itself: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookies-txt/
 
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