Disaster Hundreds may have been exposed to rabies at bat-infested cabins in Grand Teton National Park - If a loved one starts avoiding water, just put two in their head and seek medical attention.

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Health officials are working to alert hundreds of people in dozens of states and several countries who may have been exposed to rabies in bat-infested cabins in Wyoming’s Grand Teton National Park over the past few months.

As of Friday, none of the bats found in some of the eight linked cabins at Jackson Lake Lodge had tested positive for rabies.

But the handful of dead bats found and sent to the Wyoming State Veterinary Laboratory in Laramie for testing were probably only a small sample of the likely dozens that colonized the attic above the row of cabins, Wyoming State Health Officer Dr. Alexia Harrist said.

Other bats weren’t killed but got shooed out through cabin doors and windows. Meanwhile, the vast majority never flapped down from the attic into living spaces.

Health officials thus deemed it better safe than sorry to alert everybody who has stayed in the cabins recently that they might have been exposed by being bitten or scratched. Especially when people are sleeping, a bat bite or scratch can go unseen and unnoticed.

“What we’re really concerned about is people who saw bats in their rooms and people who might have had direct contact with a bat,” Harrist said Friday.

The cabins have been unoccupied, with no plans to reopen, since concessionaire Grand Teton Lodge Company discovered the bat problem July 27.

Bats are a frequent vector of the rabies virus. Once symptoms occur — muscle aches, vomiting, itching, to name a few — rabies is almost always fatal in humans.

The good news is a five-shot prophylactic regimen over a two-week period soon after exposure is highly effective in preventing illness, Harrist noted.

The cabins opened for the summer season in May after being vacant over the winter. Based on the roughly 250 reservations through late July, health officials estimated that up to 500 people had stayed in the cabins.

They were trying to reach people in 38 states and seven countries through those states’ health agencies and, in the case of foreign visitors, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Others who have not been alerted yet but stayed in cabins 516, 518, 520, 522, 524, 526, 528 and 530 this year should tell health officials or a doctor immediately, Harrist said.

Health officials were recommending prophylactic shots for people who fit certain criteria, such as deep sleepers who found a bat in their room, and children too young to say that they had seen a bat.

The Wyoming Department of Health had no ongoing concern about visitor safety at the Jackson Lake Lodge area. That includes a Federal Reserve economic policy symposium Aug. 21-23 that takes place at Jackson Lake Lodge every summer.

“The lodge company has done a fantastic job of doing their due diligence of making sure everyone that is coming in for that, and for all other visits this year, are going to be as safe as possible,” said Emily Curren, Wyoming’s public health veterinarian.

“Three or four” dead bats from the cabins tested negative and one that was mangled did not have enough brain tissue to be testable, Curren said.

All were brown bats, which come in two species: “little” and “big,” with the larger ones more than twice as big. Officials were unsure which species these were, but both are common in Wyoming.

They typically live in colonies of 30 to 100 individuals, Curren said.

“That’s a lot of bats that we cannot rule out a risk of rabies being in,” Curren said. “There’s no way for us to know for certain about every single bat that got into these rooms.”


There are no plans to exterminate the bats, Grand Teton National Park spokesperson Emily Davis said. Devices fitted to the building were keeping the bats from getting back in after flying out in pursuit of insects to eat, they said.
 
The good news is a five-shot prophylactic regimen over a two-week period soon after exposure is highly effective in preventing illness, Harrist noted.
Yeah and the bad news is that you need to start that regimen VERY soon after exposure or if you have been infected, you are dead. Only a few people have ever survived rabies or the bat lyssavirus (not quite the same thing but close enough to make no difference really) by being put in a deep coma (Milwaukee protocol) and all of them have suffered severe effects.
 
It’s a bummer bats carry so many things that can be horrific for humans. They’re so useful. I used to be able to watch them flying around eating mosquitos from my porch at night but I rarely see them anymore. Apparently that White Nose Syndrome wiped out huge numbers in North America. Still, rabies is fucking terrifying.
 
Yeah and the bad news is that you need to start that regimen VERY soon after exposure or if you have been infected, you are dead. Only a few people have ever survived rabies or the bat lyssavirus (not quite the same thing but close enough to make no difference really) by being put in a deep coma (Milwaukee protocol) and all of them have suffered severe effects.
I always wondered why of all the vaccines they make us get, why they are extremely picky about giving people rabies vaccines? They give them to dogs very easily...
I always thought, why do dogs get nice things like anti flea and tick, rabies vax, deworm, etc and humans don't get these things?
 
by being put in a deep coma (Milwaukee protocol)
Regarding the Milwaukee protocol, I read an article that speculated with how few people survive, even with the the protocol, it may just be that the people who survive it and Rabies were just lucky, because statistically, so few people survive at that point that its basically a rounding error.
 
Yeah and the bad news is that you need to start that regimen VERY soon after exposure or if you have been infected, you are dead. Only a few people have ever survived rabies or the bat lyssavirus (not quite the same thing but close enough to make no difference really) by being put in a deep coma (Milwaukee protocol) and all of them have suffered severe effects.
I was gonna say, unless the stay was very recent these folks are all either fine or dead by now I would think.

IF someone was there in May and it's August ... Like what's the point of this?

I know some viruses can take a long or variable time to show but afaik rabies ain't one of em.
 
I always wondered why of all the vaccines they make us get, why they are extremely picky about giving people rabies vaccines? They give them to dogs very easily...
I always thought, why do dogs get nice things like anti flea and tick, rabies vax, deworm, etc and humans don't get these things?
The rabies vaccine is extremely unpleasant. You don’t want to take it unless you have to.
 
I always wondered why of all the vaccines they make us get, why they are extremely picky about giving people rabies vaccines? They give them to dogs very easily...
I always thought, why do dogs get nice things like anti flea and tick, rabies vax, deworm, etc and humans don't get these things?
Because humans typically don't go around biting other humans, tend to not have a lot of hair, and usually don't eat god knows what kind of random shit off the ground.
 
Is it really necessary to fearmonger? If you look at r/rabies it is probably full of people panicking more than usual. If you got bit, it is probably too late anyway.
 
I always wondered why of all the vaccines they make us get, why they are extremely picky about giving people rabies vaccines? They give them to dogs very easily...
I always thought, why do dogs get nice things like anti flea and tick, rabies vax, deworm, etc and humans don't get these things?
They’re horrible to take. They make you feel very unwell
 
Are those particular ones somehow THAT pozzed, or is it another "everything causes cancer" thing?

I used to live in an area with lots of bats (tho yurop not 'murca), and nobody gave a shit about them. If one got into a house, you just opened a window and flailed at it with a t-shirt or something until it got the message. Or just grabbed it in a way it couldn't bite you, and chucked it out. Unvaccinated feral cats caught and ate them, and there was never any rabies epidemic.

In fact the only cases of bat-borne rabies I've heard of were a few cases of "unvaxxed bat researcher/biology student got bitten by a bunch back in 1985" or some shit.
 
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