😵‍💫 Obsessed Ruben Sim Derangement Syndrome - Because it's definitely a good look to attack a guy who takes down pedophiles.

[Lingering butter taste]

I'm surprised how popular this opinion is on the farms.

I think kids having internet access is fine, it's not impossible to teach them how to use it even at a young age. My parents for once taught me to never trust online strangers or look at pictures of "naked women" when I was litte, and those lessons have shaped how I use the computer until this very day.

Of course not every kid works the same, some will need to have a restrict access, others will have to not use it all like you said, but I fail to see how all children in the world would need to stop using the internet, especially in the modern world, where as soon as you know how to tie your shoes, the internet becomes absolutely essential for work, school, communication, etc, like it or not.

Unless you're Amish, you're gonna often need to use the webs eventually.

You could argue how truly dangerous the internet is, but I think it wouldn't be that different as much as trusting your son/daughter having to go outside by themselves or teach them how to be social and to avoid certain people/situations in school.

Using it for work and school is fine, Google is fine, social media is never necessary for a child. I’m sorry, you’ll just never convince me that a child ever needs Roblox, Discord, Instagram, YouTube, etc.
It’s no real benefit (That you couldn’t just replace with something equally if not more enriching) for so many risks.

Obviously children need the internet to research for school and the like, but no child needs a Tumblr blog. You go to social medias and you see rules and reminders like “Censor yourselves! There’s children here!” And you have to have this eureka moment of, holy shit, that’s not normal. None of this shit is normal.

 

[Metallic Blood]

Using it for work and school is fine, Google is fine, social media is never necessary for a child. I’m sorry, you’ll just never convince me that a child ever needs Roblox, Discord, Instagram, YouTube, etc.
It’s no real benefit (That you couldn’t just replace with something equally if not more enriching) for so many risks.

Obviously children need the internet to research for school and the like, but no child needs a Tumblr blog. You go to social medias and you see rules and reminders like “Censor yourselves! There’s children here!” And you have to have this eureka moment of, holy shit, that’s not normal. None of this shit is normal.

Oh I agree if we're leaving kids out of traditional social medias, and I'd even argue that ROBLOX conceptually is fine, but that's just my early zoomer bias speaking here when I surfed the webs in the 2000's

... I guess the truth is, there are no online kids spaces anymore. There's no Club Penguin, there's no Toontown, there are no websites that I can write Santa Claus a letter about wanting a butler monkey named Jeromy and print Xmas themed coloring pages, and I absolutely despise how malicious ROBLOX has been towards child safety these past years.

I'm a believer that the internet could accommodate children and teens with little problem, because we had it before. But now, EVERY SINGLE WEBSITE needs to mix "we advertise this for kids but we allow nsfw because child safety is too expensive."

It should honestly be illegal to advertise your unmoderated social media to kids, but I guess the government would rather force ID verification to all adults instead, because that sure is a safe and effective system that could cause no data breaches or fake verifications, nope it will work wonders!

I will take my tophats.

 

[AnZero]

At this point the phrase 'safe for kids' on the internet really means 'dangerous for kids'.

And "dangerous for kids" means implement a ton of restrictions and Patriot Act level laws on most of the Internet because zoomers were hating on The Strongest Ally too much lmao. "It's for childrens safety!" yet roblox nor 'cord isn't made to do a thing about the whole pedo ring issues...

sorry for sperging

 

[Lingering butter taste]

I'm a believer that the internet could accommodate children and teens with little problem, because we had it before. But now, EVERY SINGLE WEBSITE needs to mix "we advertise this for kids but we allow nsfw because child safety is too expensive."

Truth be told? I don’t believe we had it before. I believe we only now started caring about children being groomed. I used those sites in the 2000s and online dating and ERP’ing was common, back in Movie Star planet there was a girl that dated everyone and it was considered a big status symbol to be dating her. She was 30.

Back then we just didn’t really care, sometimes it’d even be a status symbol. “Banging a high schooler” was cool amongst older men. I’m not sure what changed but only now we care.

 

[CWC spells Master Duel]

I'm sorry but what the fuck is the whole revenge porn being sent to a child by ruben sim? Like I KNOW it's fake but where the hell did it even come from??

Like I just had some friends go on a heated debate over that happening and them being unable to find proof and I'm just sitting there laughing

 

[Metallic Blood]

Truth be told? I don’t believe we had it before. I believe we only now started caring about children being groomed. I used those sites in the 2000s and online dating and ERP’ing was common, back in Movie Star planet there was a girl that dated everyone and it was considered a big status symbol to be dating her. She was 30.

Back then we just didn’t really care, sometimes it’d even be a status symbol. “Banging a high schooler” was cool amongst older men. I’m not sure what changed but only now we care.

ODers will always exist sadly, but I believe it wasn't as common of an issue as it is today, ERP cases even less so. I think it's fair to say that while child safety wasn't 100% perfect (as nothing is), I think in the old days, it was enforced pretty well in online spaces. Perhaps I'm too unaware on how other "not-so-popular" kids websites looked like, but from what I experienced, safe spaces for kids did exist, and I still believe they can still exist. If I didn't, I wouldn't bother following Ruben Sim at all.

The thing is, I find pretty inhumane how those "child-friendly" companies show absolute no concern towards safety anymore.

Let's take ROBLOX for example:

Here we have an UGC creator called "M4RC", they are known for creating UGC bundles who feature a woman with huge tits and butt, one of the more tame cases of "NSFW" UGC on the platform.



ROBLOX eventually responded and deleted some of their items for supposedly breaking their Community Standards, which would be "Nudity, partial nudity or other content produced for sexual arousal" and "Sexually suggestive assets or bundles", and when you break CS, you also, supposedly, get banned for a day, or maybe even 3 depending on the case.



... And then M4RC uploaded all the bundles back, sometimes with a different name, sometimes "why should I bother lol"?

So not only they upload UGC items that are against the ROBLOX's estabilished guidelines (which mind you, say that "Roblox aims to provide a safe and positive environment for all users, especially children."), they also reupload the same model to the website until it works!

And you'd think they would be banned permanently for content invasion as most websites do? Or maybe they're unaware that such person exists in their multibillion player platform?

Nope.

That person I showed you has a blue checkmark.



A human being, not an AI model, not an underpaid worker who earns 4$ an hour, someone from the ROBLOX staff themselves saw this person's profile, saw the items they made, thought they were notable and lawful enough to earn the Verification Badge, and left with no word.

This isn't child safety not working.



This is negligence.

I'd ramble more and more, but I'm ready getting and sidetracked by this point, which is:

TL;DR: Online Child Safety is not perfect, but it's very effective when done right. However, modern companies rather than improving said policy, would instead turn their blind eye to keep their bucks flowing, which implies that they're indirectly profiting off child explotation.

 

[Lingering butter taste]

I'm sorry but what the fuck is the whole revenge porn being sent to a child by ruben sim? Like I KNOW it's fake but where the hell did it even come from??

It’s not fake, it’s just that he did it when he was around the same age as her. He was like 12 or something and he drew revenge porn of some 13 year old. Dumb little kid shit.

 

[soy woah jaque]

I think kids having internet access is fine

I'm a believer that the internet could accommodate children and teens with little problem

I don't know why you're so insistent on this, it seems mostly due to nostalgia on your end.
It still wasn't safe and kids were still exposed to porn and other garbage, just to a lesser extent. I could understand why a late teenager would need to use the internet and get around with technology, but certainly not a child.

Most of your arguments boil down to "We could have an internet for kids if we lived in a perfect utopia where porn and pedophiles didn't exist and the satanic giga corporations that controlled it didn't just care about money" And you seem to mostly reference "safe spaces", which is a concept that doesn't work with kids on the internet because they can easily leave those bubbles and are actively incentivized to do so.

 

[Pixy]

It’s not fake, it’s just that he did it when he was around the same age as her. He was like 12 or something and he drew revenge porn of some 13 year old. Dumb little kid shit.

Not of her specifically, her avatar.

 

[Thomas The Tank Engine]

a useful document on spawnism was made recently. for context, spawnists are an online "cult" which just serves for pedophiles to exploit children into harming themselves. recently, they attempted a harassment campaign against @Ruben Sim , something they failed miserably to do

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eLj0NRn5EzIJkowDmRCr345TD0PgGkBj

 

[Rux]

He was like 12 or something and he drew revenge porn of some 13 year old.

No, he was 16. He's currently 28 and this happened in 2013.

 

[Lingering butter taste]

No, he was 16. He's currently 28 and this happened in 2013.

He is? I thought he was like, 25. How old was she?

Not of her specifically, her avatar.

Yes, that’s what I meant, apologies

 

[Rux]

He is? I thought he was like, 25. How old was she?

Didn't read the OP award.

"He drew torture porn of a 12-year-old!"​

Seriously wrong priorities here.

So this is partially true, and the person in question was named spicycoldkitty.

Ruben also already explained his side of this situation.

Spicy was a popular forumer back when the Roblox forums were a thing. She drew and shared a lot of softcore porn of her Roblox avatar so I thought it'd be funny to troll her when I was in the 10th grade. That was really the main premise of most of my interactions with/about her.

Years after the MS Paint drawing I was contacted by someone stalking her, demanding that I send him her nudes, which I obviously didn't have. I messaged her screenshots of what the guy was asking for and helped her get him to leave her alone. She was very thankful and we ended up burying the hatchet during this conversation. She even finished the drawing of me as an old man. In 2021 when news broke that Roblox was suing me she brought the MS Paint drawing up again in an attempt to cancel me.

Now, 11 years later, "people" (furries) are reposting the drawing to claim that I'm a pedophile, even though I was a minor when I made it, and the other minor was drawing legitimate porn of the same avatar. Such is life.

You're talking about Wazupmaster. She tried to OD on Ambien and everyone blamed Spicy for it, but I ended up interviewing her for Roblox Watch and cleared Spicy of any wrongdoing, something she was also grateful for.

 

[Lingering butter taste]

Didn't read the OP award.

It’s been a while, yea

I’m a bit confused by his response but oh well, probably not a big deal. Long ago and all that.

 

[nyblanc]

... I guess the truth is, there are no online kids spaces anymore. There's no Club Penguin, there's no Toontown, there are no websites that I can write Santa Claus a letter about wanting a butler monkey named Jeromy and print Xmas themed coloring pages, and I absolutely despise how malicious ROBLOX has been towards child safety these past years.

Club Penguin and Toontown worked (afaik, and of course there were still other issues) hugely because they did not rely on user-generated content. It's pretty obvious why any platform cannot simultaneously market itself as "for kids" and rely on the userbase to produce safe material. There is a reason ESRB, as retarded as they can be, has explicit warnings for when users interact or if there is user-generated content.

 

[Psychonaut]

a useful document on spawnism was made recently. for context, spawnists are an online "cult" which just serves for pedophiles to exploit children into harming themselves. recently, they attempted a harassment campaign against @Ruben Sim , something they failed miserably to do

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eLj0NRn5EzIJkowDmRCr345TD0PgGkBj

Here is most of the stuff in that drive.

Spoiler: Dude Pissing on a bucket and Splashing it on himself | NSFL

0:51

1:22

Spoiler: Discord Screenshots

Spoiler: Discord Screenshot with one of the user showing his cuts | NSFL

There is one video on that but I'm not posting it here because it does have animal abuse involving cats.

 

[Speedrunner]

There's been a lack of posts from RDS sufferers on Xitter, I wonder why?


Following list has only one NSFW account, which strangely makes drawings of an overweight die?


And for the second and final account, she is quite the spiteful individual.

Account name is weird, what kind of name is "BigTiddyMommies"?

And as expected of these faggots, the following list has many NSFW accounts.

 

[liam dees]

Account name is weird, what kind of name is "BigTiddyMommies"?

Sounds like the username an underage male gooner hopelessly addicted to porn would make.

 

[Metallic Blood]

I don't know why you're so insistent on this, it seems mostly due to nostalgia on your end.
It still wasn't safe and kids were still exposed to porn and other garbage, just to a lesser extent. I could understand why a late teenager would need to use the internet and get around with technology, but certainly not a child.

Most of your arguments boil down to "We could have an internet for kids if we lived in a perfect utopia where porn and pedophiles didn't exist and the satanic giga corporations that controlled it didn't just care about money" And you seem to mostly reference "safe spaces", which is a concept that doesn't work with kids on the internet because they can easily leave those bubbles and are actively incentivized to do so.

It's a lot of things, nostalgia is a huge factor I confess, but my main belief is that it's easier and more productive to teach a child how to use the internet in a safe way rather than wrangling them 24/7 to see if they're using the family computer for school purposes only.

Maybe it's how I was raised as well: my parents surprisingly gave me a lot of freedom when I was young to go outside or use the PC, but almost everyday, they always warned me "Don't trust strangers", "Don't go anywhere too far", "Don't give your personal information" and so on. Not every minor will be raised the same, some will need to be restricted on how they do certain things, but I believe kids deserve a right to use the internet (restricted if necessary, but not just for education or job purposes) as much as an adult.

I could go on and on and write EVERYTHING on how I feel about this topic, but I think I already derailed this thread's purpose enough. If you want to, I could start a Mass Debates thread about this, would be interesting.

THREAD TAX: Speaking of child safety, ROBLOX updated their ToS recently and has forbid the proliferation of "Vigilante Groups" and users like Ruben Sim


"You can no longer be a pedophile catcher on our platform, only ROBLOX is allowed to punish illegal activity with the help of law enforcement."
"So are you gonna ban more pedophiles and report them to law enforcement?"
"No."

Source (Archive)

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

"You can no longer be a pedophile catcher on our platform, only ROBLOX is allowed to punish illegal activity with the help of law enforcement."
"So are you gonna ban more pedophiles and report them to law enforcement?"
"No."

It's like Ruben Sim said multiple times: Such "vigilante action" would be redundant and unnecessary if Roblox did their jobs.

At best, they're angry that Ruben Sim is making them look bad, at worse, they're in on the child predation themselves.