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I can shed some light on this. In Israel, there are very few pro-Palestine lefty commie types (because well no shit). If you're left wing you're a labor zionist, which means you believe in an Israel that has socialist style welfare programs/workers right but also capitalism, you belive that a two state solution is the best for israel/palestine/all involved, you probably don't support the settlements and you think that Likud (the major conservative party in Israel which Bibi heads) is doing more bad than good domestically in Israel and isn't helping the situation in Palestine (aka he is doing wars to stay in power). These guys used to be the majority party in Israel for 40 years until the 1st/2nd intifada proved them wrong(they believed that if they got a Palestinian government to acknowledge Israel's right to exist, then the conflict would end- history would prove otherwise- see the Myrters Fund/Pay-For-Slay which the Palestinian Authority sponsors) . The closest I could think would be something like an LBJ Great Society type democrat. I think she's more right-wing than Ethan (who grew up in California), but she's not precisely "TMD Trump is based #greaterisrael".Wyświetl załącznik 7322213Wyświetl załącznik 7322214
Watching this livestream i get the sense that she has an "i told you so vibe." Maybe they've been having some off screen discussions we don't know about where he's been wanting to keep the lefty grift alive for money and she's wanted to go full MAGA and TMD for the homeland. I imagine this is a discussion being had in a lot of jewish households actually.
Also Jews tend to know the history of when we were expelled, why we left and where we were expelled. Remember most American Jews escaped the Pogroms (what Oct 7 was) of Eastern Europe like a 100 years ago. The Mizrahi/Sephardic (Jews from the middle east/north Africa) escaped one or two generation(s) ago. It is much more RAW for them. I personally know/work with men and woman in their 50s who remember having to flee Iran because the IRGC and the Ayatollah were killing Jews (the IRCG had a literal list of Jews who left and if you return and are found they will imprison/execute you hanging your body on from fucking crane in the town square) these Iranian Jewish children are millenial/gen Z/ gen alpha.
As for the discussions in Jewish households? you are spot on. Many are not willing to donate money to dem causes without really checking them over, if at all, and a lot are talking about voting republican (not Trump/Maga though). I have a family member who used to be all DEI/SJW and would call me racist when I told them that the colleges hate you for being Jewish, and then suddenly, on October 7, they lost friends, and now they are more TMD than I am.
I believe privately, she told Ethan these people were terrible and he brushed her off. Israelis tend to be more cautious than American Jews, however since Oct 7 many American Jews are coming around to sharing the same POV as Israeli Jews.
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