US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

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[Gregis]

nuclear war anywhere on earth is a threat to all life, the dust clouds alone, to say nothing of the radiation would cause HUGE issues with crops in far off places by blocking sunlight and disrupting the water cycle

Its not an extinction level threat, yet... but trust me when I say we would definitely prefer to talk them down from this

This is obvious bullshit. Japan got nuked twice, it's fine. You know what country has been nuked way more than Japan? The US. Or did you think they just develop a new weapon and say "welp, hope it works when it comes time to use it!" A full nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan is like 500 detonations; this pales in comparison to the number of nuclear tests that have been conducted by the various nuclear armed states. Now obviously India and Pakistan wouldn't be fine, but you know why that is? Because they are fucking Indian/Pakistani saar!

Literally the only danger from this to anyone I give a shit about is that we'd take in refugees or spend money trying to fix shitstain countries that were unconscionable superfund sites BEFORE the bombs dropped. The correct stance is that a fullscale nuclear exchange amounts to taking out the garbage.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

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link to video

They got video of the pakis hitting an Indian outpost with an Anti Tank round "SQUA" in the face

Shit might get spicy, wonder what made them feel bold enough to do this now of all times

afe all day erry day

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[Hey Johnny Bravo]

This is obvious bullshit. Japan got nuked twice, it's fine.

Modern nukes are orders of magnitude more destructive, dude. The dust from a major nuclear exchange is a massive environmental problem.

When Trump and Obama agree 100% that nukes are bad, that's a sign.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Is the MIC in the room with you right now?

In all seriousness, you don't have to trust any of those people. Pakistan and India have nukes. You can watch videos online of them being tested - they both did tests in 1998.

we also know pakistan has nukes because of Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani scientist who was a nuclear maximalist and who had a role in the nuclear programs of Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and Libya.

genuinely an evil person

 

[Levitcus prime24]

this isent up for debate if your just saying

"its my opinion they dont have nukes"

there is verifiable and redundant information proving as much as one can that India has indeed the full Triad of WORKING nuclear weapons, Pakistan as well.

The north Koreans have nukes we have the damn atmospheric test proof of, what makes you think a country even more aligned with china wouldn't be able to get it?

Well there goes canadas future population

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

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popetrump.mp4


Then Homeland Security schlongs Harry Sisson:
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Delay the conclave until 2028. STOP THE COUNT. He can still make it

 

[StudMccool]

This is obvious bullshit. Japan got nuked twice, it's fine. You know what country has been nuked way more than Japan? The US. Or did you think they just develop a new weapon and say "welp, hope it works when it comes time to use it!" A full nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan is like 500 detonations; this pales in comparison to the number of nuclear tests that have been conducted by the various nuclear armed states. Now obviously India and Pakistan wouldn't be fine, but you know why that is? Because they are fucking Indian/Pakistani saar!

Literally the only danger from this to anyone I give a shit about is that we'd take in refugees or spend money trying to fix shitstain countries that were unconscionable superfund sites BEFORE the bombs dropped. The correct stance is that a fullscale nuclear exchange amounts to taking out the garbage.

those were atomic bombs, same princable but its like calling a gattling gun and a CWIS system the same thing

testing is done deep underground or above the atmosphere, no chance for the dust clouds to be kicked up. I promise modern nukes have so much more punch and are airbursted no far from the ground to maximize explosive power that they kick up ORDER OF MAGNITUDES more dust

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

From what I have seen of their cultures by interacting with them personally I don't think Pakis or Indians can maintain Nuclear Missiles well enough for them to be viable weapons.

Even if the vast majority of the population is bumfuck retarded, there's always going to be someone on the edges of the bell curve that doesn't match the average.

So then the question becomes, are there enough competent Indians who made it into the nuclear programs to maintain the nukes?

Trump will tell them "Okay you can become the United Territory of Canada and you have to follow the Constitution" or some shit like that, and bam. Annexation complete. Aside from minor changes, the average Canadian won't know the difference. Life moves on.

I do want to point out Trump can't just Annex Canada unilaterally. Texas was its own Republic for almost a decade despite actively WANTING to join the US because of the slavery question. DC will drag its feet.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

those were atomic bombs, same princable but its like calling a gattling gun and a CWIS system the same thing

testing is done deep underground or above the atmosphere, no chance for the dust clouds to be kicked up. I promise modern nukes have so much more punch and are airbursted no far from the ground to maximize explosive power that they kick up ORDER OF MAGNITUDES more dust

Operation starfish wiener was pretty bad, but the dumbest thing we ever did was operation hardtack

 

[Twat in a Hat]

It's almost as if the Trump-Russia dossier that kicked off the Russia collusion false narrative was written by a former British intelligence officer paid for by Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign so forgive me if I take most Russia Collusion narratives with a giant plate of salt.

Had you any iota of what Russia actually has been doing to propagandize us you could have pointed out Lauren Chen and the Tennant media scandal, but instead you jumped straight to google and gobbled up the very first search result that looked vaguely promising to support your preferred narrative.

there is absolutely no point because you literally can't argue with these people. you could prove it conclusively and they'd say the same shit

 

[UnidentifiedFlyingOrchid]

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Man, how did I even make a joke about this? its already perfect.

Greater Israel only needs from the Nile to the Euphrates.


But, that still leaves Iran as a "problem". So...

Saaars, we are trve Ancient Aryans!! We will do the needful. You can count on India Bharat. We shall unify the ancient Aryan Āryāvarta kingdom of Bharatas into one mighty Bhāratagaṇarājya!!!!

 

[StudMccool]

Operation starfish wiener was pretty bad, but the dumbest thing we ever did was operation hardtack

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What about Castle Bravo? we miscalculated how big it would actually be and accidentally zapped the entire ozone layer above it
to date its the largest US nuclear test of ALL TIME

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

When Trump and Obama agree 100% that nukes are bad, that's a sign.

tbf neither is too hot on atomics for energy either so they're kinda fucking retarded once you've gone fission

I have no clue what an actual nuke toss will do. DoD tests were built to scare Russians and Americans to get money so the classic family blowing up is basically as good as "two weeks to flatten the curve".
The idea everybody's packing infinity Tsar Bombas seems to be the pop culture idea of nuclear weapons.

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

This is obvious bullshit. Japan got nuked twice, it's fine. You know what country has been nuked way more than Japan? The US. Or did you think they just develop a new weapon and say "welp, hope it works when it comes time to use it!" A full nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan is like 500 detonations; this pales in comparison to the number of nuclear tests that have been conducted by the various nuclear armed states. Now obviously India and Pakistan wouldn't be fine, but you know why that is? Because they are fucking Indian/Pakistani saar!

Literally the only danger from this to anyone I give a shit about is that we'd take in refugees or spend money trying to fix shitstain countries that were unconscionable superfund sites BEFORE the bombs dropped. The correct stance is that a fullscale nuclear exchange amounts to taking out the garbage.

You are leaving out the entire concept of scale here. The nuclear tests done in Nevada were tiny compared to Hiroshima / Nagasaki. And THOSE bombs were tiny compared to modern nukes. That's like calling someone a pussy because they had 2 shots of alcohol and got sick, while not mentioning those two shots were Everclear and not the Fireball everyone else has.

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

"hup shi do go muh fugga ching chang chong chong gook gook mook spidook"

If you care to up your racism game then weebshit words almost always end in vowels, the primary exceptions being -an and -un. Throw in a random -u or -i and the occasional -o at the end of words and you'll be well on your way

 

[SpergioLeonne]

What about Castle Bravo? we miscalculated how big it would actually be and accidentally zapped the entire ozone layer above it
to date its the largest US nuclear test of ALL TIME
https://youtube.com/watch?v=T2I66dHbSRAhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=fd1IFjBNNVo

When we did starfish, we didn’t know what would happen and we created an artificial radiation belt that kept destroying satellites that passed through it

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

tbf neither is too hot on atomics for energy either so they're kinda fucking retarded once you've gone fission

I have no clue what an actual nuke toss will do. DoD tests were built to scare Russians and Americans to get money so the classic family blowing up is basically as good as "two weeks to flatten the curve".
The idea everybody's packing infinity Tsar Bombas seems to be the pop culture idea of nuclear weapons.

100 Minuteman III warheads are worse than one Tsar Bomba. It's about scale.

 

[Gregis]

Modern nukes are orders of magnitude more destructive, dude. The dust from a major nuclear exchange is a massive environmental problem.

When Trump and Obama agree 100% that nukes are bad, that's a sign.

Yeah, and when Fukushima got fucked up, Californians had to eat one banana fewer or they'd be over their USDA approved radiation levels. I get it, there will be effects...on people I don't like.

Listen, you like orders of magnitude? Let's do some math. We know what it takes to cause a year without a summer: Mount Tambora. I just checked, estimates are that was about 3 billion 30 billion tons tnt equivalent. Weapon yields for modern nukes are measured in at most tens of millions. You need to set off 1000 of the most destructive weapons to get into the ballpark; and with more representative weapons it's going to be at least 10000. That gets you a year of terrible weather and bad crop yields felt worldwide.

India and Pakistan aren't setting off 1000 tsar bombas. I get it, it could be bad. The whole thing about global consequences and nuclear winter was always overblown though. As far as I know, the theory leaned heavily on assuming enduring firestorms caused by the detonations doing most of the work.

Edit: LOL, I misread a decimal into the number, Tambora was 10x as bad as I initially stated! Added a 0 to most numbers.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Let's do some math. We know what it takes to cause a year without a summer: Mount Tambora. I just checked, estimates are that was about 3 billion tons tnt equivalent. Weapon yields for modern nukes are measured in at most tens of. You need to set off 100 of the most destructive weapons to get into the ballpark; and with more representative weapons it's going to be at least 1000. That gets you a year of terrible weather and bad crop yields felt worldwide.

do India and Pakistan even have enough to get close to that?