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- 22 Sie 2020
I give Martin a bit of a pass on the logistics of his armies because we have lots of historical examples of armies of tens of thousands even in late ancient times more or less successfully maintaining themselves in the field (Caesar in Gaul, Hannibal in Italy, etc.). If there are cities with granaries around that you can force to gib up those stores, you're usually going to be okay. Humans were pretty good at raising enough crops to maintain such granaries since ~3000 BC in multiple areas of planet earth
Westeros is this weird combination of low and high Middle Ages that every fantasy author seems to love to create no matter how unrealistic it is. The manufacturing and cultural level of the Seven Kingdoms, or at least the aristocracy is very much High Middle Ages. There is a large "middle class" of artisans and merchants in Westeros and a high level of internal and external (with Essos and even farther east) trade, even more than High Middle Ages Europe had with the Islamic world and much more than it had with India/China. But farming in the High Middle Ages was no longer feudal in Western Europe, which is very obviously the putative model for Westeros. In Westeros, feudalism and manorialism are still the economic foundation even though feudalism and manorialism are insufficient to create the amount of material wealth that Westeros produces, from food to fancy wines to metalworking to everything. In the real world, in the 1500s the foundations of modern capitalism had already been laid in the 1400s and even late 1300s, and that's why the 1500s saw an explosion of wealth and trade. It's super unrealistic that every aspect of civilization and society in Westeros is at like a ~1500s level, except when it comes to peasants and agriculture, where it's still at a ~900s level
Shit like Stannis the Mannis knowing that there is a huge army of foot soldiers and cavalry at Bitterbridge just after he killed Renly, and then suddenly forgetting that that army existed when he went to conquer King's Landing is also super unrealistic. We're supposed to believe that Tyrion's clansmen from the Mountains of the Moon completely mogged all of Stannis' scouts in the Kingswood and he had no idea that Tywin's army + that army from Bitterbridge was anywhere near King's Landing, when we're told again and again that Stannis is this experienced and extremely competent military commander - okay George, shut the fuck up retard. Just from getting, apparently, no scouting information from his rear at all, Stannis should have known something was up and planned accordingly. But he doesn't because George is too interested in how many dishes and wines are being served at aristocratic feasts and what those dishes and wines are, gratuitous brutality, and all manner of sexual degeneracy to care
Westeros is this weird combination of low and high Middle Ages that every fantasy author seems to love to create no matter how unrealistic it is. The manufacturing and cultural level of the Seven Kingdoms, or at least the aristocracy is very much High Middle Ages. There is a large "middle class" of artisans and merchants in Westeros and a high level of internal and external (with Essos and even farther east) trade, even more than High Middle Ages Europe had with the Islamic world and much more than it had with India/China. But farming in the High Middle Ages was no longer feudal in Western Europe, which is very obviously the putative model for Westeros. In Westeros, feudalism and manorialism are still the economic foundation even though feudalism and manorialism are insufficient to create the amount of material wealth that Westeros produces, from food to fancy wines to metalworking to everything. In the real world, in the 1500s the foundations of modern capitalism had already been laid in the 1400s and even late 1300s, and that's why the 1500s saw an explosion of wealth and trade. It's super unrealistic that every aspect of civilization and society in Westeros is at like a ~1500s level, except when it comes to peasants and agriculture, where it's still at a ~900s level
Shit like Stannis the Mannis knowing that there is a huge army of foot soldiers and cavalry at Bitterbridge just after he killed Renly, and then suddenly forgetting that that army existed when he went to conquer King's Landing is also super unrealistic. We're supposed to believe that Tyrion's clansmen from the Mountains of the Moon completely mogged all of Stannis' scouts in the Kingswood and he had no idea that Tywin's army + that army from Bitterbridge was anywhere near King's Landing, when we're told again and again that Stannis is this experienced and extremely competent military commander - okay George, shut the fuck up retard. Just from getting, apparently, no scouting information from his rear at all, Stannis should have known something was up and planned accordingly. But he doesn't because George is too interested in how many dishes and wines are being served at aristocratic feasts and what those dishes and wines are, gratuitous brutality, and all manner of sexual degeneracy to care
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