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Should be a wild four years.

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Why didn't they appeal it to the SCOTUS? Again, there was literally no proof presented. "Less people voted" and "line look funny" is not proof. Sorry retard.
Absolute incontrovertible proof is not even the standard used in criminal trials, because it makes corruption easier by making destruction of evidence a winning move. You can't just ignore circumstantial evidence like in a TV court show
 
and 42% of never-married singles under 40 say they’ve never had a relationship at all.
that sounds harder to believe tbqh, because everyone blames dating apps, but its not like tinder existed in 2009.
Do we have any sort of historical comparison for this?
no, but thats because up until the internet you were stuck being forced to go to bars and parties and interact with people, both men and women, so eventually a woman would end up with a dude they didn't really like too much but she was getting old. Marty is a great film about this, Ernest Borgnine was one of the fattest men in movies back then, the equivalent of a 400 lb dude today, and he was still able to find a woman eventually. its like Rocky a generation later, even if you talk and look like a retard, eventually you'll find a woman just as retarded to marry.

the internet changed that, which is why the women in situationships is a lot higher than the dudes in relationships, women yearn to be part of a harem the way the children yearn for the mines. they prefer being one of a dozen women in a fuckboy's phone than being one dude's wife. but before smartphones that ability was very rare for women. now tons of women are basically living the life of those cunts in Alfie. just like how the internet means every indian can apply to every job in america leading to hundreds of applications for every job, these ladies get constant attention from the internet and all it takes is a good looking enough dude sliding into DMs and they'll fuck anywhere at anytime. Someone showed that the dating market for men, if it was an economy would be on par with south africa, AKA if you're in the top 10% of dudes, its like living in a porno, you can ask any woman on the street to get in your bus and bang, you can fuck any chick at any time, the gym, the grocery store, at work, at resturants, etc. for the rest of men you're lucky if a 300 lb woman will flirt with you.

The worst part is how often women online will say literally any retarded opinion on dating but if you call them out on it they're like "obviously i didn't mean what i just said" meaning even they know they're full of shit whenever you ask them anything. And your chance of getting called a rapist is linked strongly to how she feels about you, meaning if you piss her off in any way, such as disagreeing on politics or not letting her win a video game or correcting her on what goes good with white wine. you're getting called a rapist. I literally saw this happen a few months back, because her man didn't let her win a card game some girl straight up accused her soyboi husband of rape. thankfully because this happened IRL around friends it didn't matter, but if this bitch had an online presence him and their kids would have been fucked. And this woman isn't some cluster b type, literally just the average white woman.

ironically enough rape accusations are thrown around like party favors, look how they fucked over harry sisson. up until a decade ago it was considered a norm for men to fuck up in the dating scene, for men to do some cringe stuff they'll beat themselves up over later, now you can't be like that. that channel5 guy had a similar thing, he was a rising star on the left, then a woman felt a need to make him suffer because he didn't respond to a DM after a hook up, we honestly need to go back to 1980s style laws on rape, especially marital rape or else this shit will keep happening. People forget a decade ago a "rape accusation" was literally being drugged and then waking up to a guy fucking you, now its "he was DMing other girls"
Tate is a faggot who talks all about 'warrior this' and 'warrior that' but probably crossed the street to avoid the recruiters office for the twenty year long war he was perfectly eligible to take part in.
you could say the same thing about BAP, (but won't) and as we saw from how the US treated 'Nam veterans its obvious why no bronze age warrior mindset dude would join the military.
No wonder he shoots women.
he married a latina* (i know) what did he expect. a white woman wouldn't have stuck around after he murdered a bitch, especially with 6 kids.
 
The Democrats have never polled this bad in decades and yet the only response they have is to triple down on everything.
Eh it's more complicated than that. Neither party is monolithic, obviously. The GOP is, on average I'd say, more unified, but both parties are broad coalitions. The GOP is a coalition of traditional deregulatory business heads, social conservatives, small government libertarians, evangelicals, and assorted far right wing groups. The Democrats are made up of a significantly more diverse crowd, including social liberals, social progressives, traditional socialists, neoliberals, mixed-economy socialists, greens, and even some communists.

For a while the left wing of the Democratic party has been running the show because they were doing pretty well in elections, which was reason enough for the Democrats closer to the center to play ball. Now that they've been swept and are polling like dog shit, you're seeing the cracks along those coalition lines, with the centrists in open revolt as the left wing desperately tries to maintain power by deploying the usual bullshit at their own that they've been flinging at the right for the last decade.

There's still tension between the different groups in the GOP, but we're seeing a lot less of it because there's a central authority figure and the GOP is polling very well and is doing well in elections, so there's no incentive to shake up the leadership or message.

Anyway, I don't see this as some death knell for the Democratic party, but I do think they're going to be significantly less competitive for the next decade as they reorganize around another caucus in the coalition. I'm very curious to see who ends up in charge of the party at the end of this, because I think that's what will determine how effective they'll be in future elections. Personally I can't stand Schumer, but I give him credit for realizing that he had no cards and deciding to eat crow and sign on to support the CR, but if they really do oust him and replace him with a hardliner, it's virtually guaranteed electoral suicide for 2026 and 2028.
 
Edit: I invite any zoomers to share other things I have maybe missed.
I think the disillusionment goes way understated here as well.
Based on the messaging we see, at least for the male side of the issue

Women not only do not need us, it appears they do not want us either
If she does want us, it is just so that we can furnish her with a lifestyle and children
We feel that we must sacrifice everything and be the perfect wealthy, sucessful, traditional man for any proverbial wife, we she can do basically whatever she wants and we cannot judge or criticize
If we get into a relationship, it will likely end shortly for things outside of our control anyway
If it lasts longer, that only means it will be more damaging when it ends

TL;DR The messaging out there makes it feel like dating/marriage is an unfair unwinnable game that no one wants us in anyway.
 
Hilarious to see lefties boasting about AoC and Bernie drawing a crowd of 34k in Denver.

77% of the people who voted in Denver last year voted for Kamala. They are literally preaching to the converted.
 
I’d say just by observations there’s a couple drivers:
-The right-left divide where men have been left behind
-The men hate that started in the 2010s
-The Covid arc where everyone was taught by screens and had stunted social development. Younger zoomers have limited social interaction. They are terrified of taking to a real person.
- dating culture expectations: men are encouraged to find a trad wife (think Andrew Tate ideas) and women expect men to spend $500 on a date and if they don’t then they are not worth their time.
- Dating apps: FOMO. My friend in NYC says ‘normal’ dates are harder to find then hookups. Everyone thinks their perfect, wealthy dream partner is just a swipe away, so they never actually end up dating anyone because they think they can get better (this applies to both sexes).
- Social media/ influencers: a ton of content on Instagram and TikTok is scripted so ‘couples content’ gives people skewed ideas about what a relationship should entail.

If I had to summarize, zoomers have had little organic social interaction with not just opposite genders but with each other.

Don’t drag me into retarded debates about gender, I’m just generalizing and sharing my observations over the past 15 years.

Edit: I invite any zoomers to share other things I have maybe missed.
After college, I've never met another zoomer IRL when they aren't working, it's crazy. All of our social circles begin and end online, and I blame the government lockdown for killing nacent Zoomer social circles. Besides, most things we enjoy like video games actually require that you aren't together and are in your own homes.
 
Why didn't they appeal it to the SCOTUS? Again, there was literally no proof presented. "Less people voted" and "line look funny" is not proof. Sorry retard.
-Susan Crawford was fired and under investigation for using dead voters identity during the elections.
-Claire Woodall-Vogg printed 64 000 ballots and filled them in back room of the city hall (Milwaukee)
For the Nov 3rd 2020 election. She had city employees and others (CTCL) fill some of those out on the 4th, 6th and other floors of city hall. Then kicked out observers around 10-10:30pm on Nov 3rd. Then brought in large amounts of ballots at 1:15am on Nov 4th. All illegal, unconstitutional - number one way however the liberals stole the Presidential election in 2020.
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-Tina Peters is being prosecuted in Colorado for flipping votes on the dominion's machines
-Rachel Rodrigez is being prosecuted in Texas
Sir there was fucking rigging you have to be retarded or blind to not see it. In some cases, both.
 
It's because normies view things exclusively through the lens of media. You have people who are incapable of talking about current events without referencing Star Wars or Harry Potter. She views herself as the main character of the story. People are over-media-ized, for want of a better term. They don't understand reality.
People have always related to things through stories. But we purged our culture of religious myth, since it was superstition, and of historical stories, since the men of the past weren't woke, and so now all we have are Harry Potter and Iron Man.
 
-Susan Crawford was fired and under investigation for using dead voters identity during the elections.
-Claire Woodall-Vogg printed 64 000 ballots and filled them in back room of the city hall (Milwaukee)
For the Nov 3rd 2020 election. She had city employees and others (CTCL) fill some of those out on the 4th, 6th and other floors of city hall. Then kicked out observers around 10-10:30pm on Nov 3rd. Then brought in large amounts of ballots at 1:15am on Nov 4th. All illegal, unconstitutional - number one way however the liberals stole the Presidential election in 2020.
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-Tina Peters is being prosecuted in Colorado for flipping votes on the dominion's machines
-Rachel Rodrigez is being prosecuted in Texas
Sir there was fucking rigging you have to be retarded or blind to not see it. In some cases, both.
That just makes it even more of a shame that Trump sent out a clown-car of lawyers and con-artists (remember Jovan Pulitzer?) to make fools of themselves and you with stories of Krakens, secret servers in Italy, shootouts between the CIA and Delta Force, hacked voting machines, etc, instead of the run-of-the-mill ballot fraud that did occur. They poisoned the well with so much bullshit that when the eventual truth became known it was easily dismissed too.
 
Why didn't they appeal it to the SCOTUS?

They did, retard. SCOTUS said nobody had standing to challenge the results.

That just makes it even more of a shame that Trump sent out a clown-car of lawyers and con-artists (remember Jovan Pulitzer?) to make fools of themselves and you with stories of Krakens, secret servers in Italy, shootouts between the CIA and Delta Force, hacked voting machines, etc, instead of the run-of-the-mill ballot fraud that did occur. They poisoned the well with so much bullshit that when the eventual truth became known it was easily dismissed too.

The clown car of retards mostly were not involved in the cases that were actually filed. The cases that were filed were, on the whole, pretty good, but they were never allowed to even make it to trial because they were denied standing on various procedural grounds.

To this IANAL retard, it appears that the establishment judiciary knew the election had been stolen, didn't want to deal with Trump again, didn't want to deal with the fallout caused by exposing just what a shitshow our election processes are, and thus all kind of agreed among themselves that the best way to just move on past the Trump years was to deny standing to everyone bringing a case, and if it happens again to a "normal" candidate, maybe then they'll actually do something about election fraud.
 
Women swipe on a guy who historically would be out of her league, get crazy endorphins when they match because Grugette Brain thinks she won the reproductive lottery, and then she gets strung along as a sidepiece until he tires of her. Hence the rise of “Are we dating the same guy” groups.
I'm in AWDTSG groups and the majority of men in there are cheaters and/or domestic abusers, and they're not even attractive. The gossip is very entertaining.
 
the wife was happy to get her first MAGA hat yesterday (black on black normal font)
but yeah we're older than zoomers by a longshot, but with both times we got divorced we started looking at modern dating and basically immediately were like "so... what are you up to Friday night"
 
Why didn't they appeal it to the SCOTUS? Again, there was literally no proof presented. "Less people voted" and "line look funny" is not proof. Sorry retard.
The retards that were talking about the "kraken" did this to you, and it's a shame. It was appealed and the results each time were hasn't happened, happening now but the outcome is uncertain, and it already happened.

Its multiple lines that look funny. It doesnt take a huge coordination to fuck elections, its lots of little faggots that do it. I'm reminded of this clip.
 
To this IANAL retard, it appears that the establishment judiciary knew the election had been stolen, didn't want to deal with Trump again, didn't want to deal with the fallout caused by exposing just what a shitshow our election processes are, and thus all kind of agreed among themselves that the best way to just move on past the Trump years was to deny standing to everyone bringing a case, and if it happens again to a "normal" candidate, maybe then they'll actually do something about election fraud.
I know exactly what happened. The day after the election it was explained to Trump that proving any kind of ballot fraud would require forensic recounts that would take 18 months minimum and cost several million dollars. There wasn't time for that so they made the conscious decision to send out the clown-car full o' bullshit to assemble a retard army. That backfired.
 
Hilarious to see lefties boasting about AoC and Bernie drawing a crowd of 34k in Denver
someone brought up that now that Kamala lost the democrats are trying to go after the "dirtbag left" style socialists again, its why a hack like Bernie is being brought out to fundraise for the party. anyone with any memory knows he's a fucking hack now. a decade ago he was whining about "millionaires" but now that he is one, suddenly its all "billionaires" fault.
People have always related to things through stories. But we purged our culture of religious myth, since it was superstition, and of historical stories, since the men of the past weren't woke, and so now all we have are Harry Potter and Iron Man.
i think the big problem is small reference pools, especially online. People forget that in the 200s and especially first half of 2010s it was practically a game to see who could reference the most niche stuff and act like its well known, it was the golden age of hipsterdom and "i liked it before it was popular" so when you're used to Dennis Miller levels of pop culture knowledge, constantly quoting from the MCU or HP looks fucking pathetic. people forget Buckaroo Banzai became a well known IP because of how nerds forced it into the cultural lexicon in the 2000s era internet.
To this IANAL retard, it appears that the establishment judiciary knew the election had been stolen, didn't want to deal with Trump again, didn't want to deal with the fallout caused by exposing just what a shitshow our election processes are, and thus all kind of agreed among themselves that the best way to just move on past the Trump years was to deny standing to everyone bringing a case, and if it happens again to a "normal" candidate, maybe then they'll actually do something about election
fortunately trump is such a pussy he let them get away with fucking him over like that.
 
It was appealed and the results each time were hasn't happened, happening now but the outcome is uncertain, and it already happened.
The results each time were actually:
  1. It's too early to bring this case, since there have been no damages yet.
  2. You're the wrong party to bring this case, since you didn't suffer damages.
  3. It's too late to bring this case, since a remedy is impossible.
  4. And my personal favorite, "Oh, you say there were 100,000 fraudulent out-of-state votes? Then you need to file 100,000 separate lawsuits, one for each voter."
 
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