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Should be a wild four years.

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This is really something else, 10 years ago it was all about how the blue states would be growing and the red states going more purple.

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The most politically destructive book of the 21st Century was The Permanent Democratic Majority by John Judis and Ruy Texeira. It was published in 2002 and promulgated the idea that if demographic trends continued as their thesis predicted that they would, keyword thesis, then the Democrats would have a durable electoral majority for the next forty years at a minimum. This proposition became an article of faith among Democrats who were either clued in or in a position to actually wield power. Fuck, the idea was originally popularized by James Carville shortly after Obama took office.

The problem is that they kept running with the idea long after Judis and Teixeira withdrew their hypothesis, and were promulgating it until very recently. It created a situation where democrats were convinced that they were perpetually fifteen minutes from their final victory and republicans were convinced that they were perpetually fifteen minutes from their final defeat. This seemed to ripple out into the electorate causing both parties to alter their behavior as the republicans tried novel strategies and the democrats behaved like kings-in-waiting. This was on full display in 2014 when Harry Reid abolished the filibuster for judicial nominees. Mitch McConnell stood up on the floor of the senate and told him that it was a terrible idea and that as soon as his opponents were returned to power that it would be used against them... and it was. The republicans retook the senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016. Trump and McConnell then installed three supreme court justices and innumerable lower court judges in a move that continues to bear political fruit for the republicans.

So why would anyone do this? This incredibly short-sighted move by someone seemingly incapable of thinking even minutes into the future? Well, it's the kind of move you make if you're absolutely certain that you will never be out of power again and when you have that mindset, there is no reason to ever try to understand or seek compromise with your opponents despite the both of each being one half of the mainstream of American politics. So, they made themselves as unlikeable as possible for the sake of exercising as much short-term power as possible because Very Smart People(TM) told them that they'd never lose again.

The damage to the democrats might not be as severe as it is right now if Blue cities and states were glittering, prosperous utopias where everyone is multi-racial and gay but they aren't and they're not getting better. So, all that they're left with is a shallow bench populated by shrieking, spiteful mutants who have given up on any pretense of trying to convince people that their way is the right way. You can make many criticisms of Donald Trump, but "He does not have a positive vision of the future." is not among them.
 
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Looking through the 50 pages since I went to sleep it's the usual "da pendulum will swing back!!!" shit god that is the most cringe shit.

There is nothing they can do they already didn't try and do during the last 4 years. They were raiding Trump supporters homes at 6 am and killing them, Importing millions of violent criminal illegals on purpose along with allowing tens of millions more in via open border and bringing in infinite indians/muslim/haitians and dumping bigger amounts into small towns then their local population, burning down cities due to nigger worship, all of the kung flu bullshit and then everything done against Trump in the courts etc there are 1000 other insane things done as well.

There is nowhere for the pendulum to swing back to, they already went as far as you can go without just mass killing people who support a different political party then you and they have openly begged for that to happen for almost a decade now.

Average liberal: "Fucking Nazis we want you all dead and your family dead" *firebombs a tesla*
Retard: "Woah we better go easy while we have power guys what would they do to us if they were in power?"
The pendulum swinging back never crossed leftist minds. Not once. They thought they were going to get their Thousand Year Reich. Now that they're losing power, they're doing everything they can to pretend they never did anything illegal in the first place. It's not me who's the problem, it's you for trying to do something about it! First they bitched about Musk, after sucking Fauci's cock for years on end, now it's judges crying fowl, trying to go over the President's head when the last admin picked and chose which laws to actually enforce. Pardons being forged is only one of part of the issue here.
 
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This just means that the next president will realize he can overturn Trump's pardons, and Ross Ulbricht will be in jail again.
Doesn't seem the same since all of Bidens pardons were pre-emptive.
i.e. he pardoned a bunch of people who hadn't even been charged with crimes (fauci).
I mean I guess Hunter Biden sort of was charged with some sort of gun crime.
But he was never charged for the foreign shit.
 
And how do you expect that to go?

"Hey Joe Biden did you mean to pardon all the allies of your administration."

Joe: "Ah finally someone as brain dead retarded as me, yes, yes I did are you fucking retarded."
Biden fucking hates what they did to him. Did you forget how happy he was after Trump won? What little cognizance he has left is driven by spite. I can't predict what will happen, but it's not a guarantee he'll defend the Democrat's honor beyond affirming he signed the pardon for Hunter.

"Did you sign these pardons Mr. President Biden??"

"Hell man, I dunno man. My ice cream was wet man. Where's Jill? She makes the best ice cream man."
 
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Conor's second youngest is giving "kid smirking at the house burning" down vibes


Connor looking rough nowadays. And coming to the States to get help on "immigration"? LMAO.

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Why is he doing that? He keeps looking down to his right and left, can he only visually talk while staring in acute angles? Fuck is wrong with him?

He can't even look the speaker in the damn eye while he's saying it, he just seems panicked or ashamed.
My amateur body language reading says he's trying to come up with something, anything to explain how the Democrats got to this point. Even looking in the eyes is too stressful.
 
The pardons becoming illegitimate is huge but the bigger concern is that everything that Biden "signed" that wasn't done in front of a crowded room of cameras is suspect and potentially voided
I still don't understand how this could be. Even if you convince the world that executive orders should be signed by hand (or at least have the president operating the auto-pen, with video proof or something) that's a law made after Biden "signed" all of the pardons.
 
Biden fucking hates what they did to him. Did you forget how happy he was after Trump won? What little cognizance he has left is driven by spite. I can't predict what will happen, but it's not a guarantee he'll defend the Democrat's honor beyond affirming he signed the pardon for Hunter.

"Did you sign these pardons Mr. President Biden??"

"Hell man, I dunno man. My ice cream was wet man. Where's Jill? She makes the best ice cream man."
Biden's last act was forcing the US out of the liberal democracy empire. Hell of a swan song.
 
"As a former Trump voter...." "Now I'm as Republican as they come...." "I'm not a Liberal by any stretch but..." "This really sets a dangerous heccin' precedent...."
I'm handing out TMIs to everyone who sounds like this because the stink of your dilating is assaulting my nostrils through your words.
 
Biden fucking hates what they did to him. Did you forget how happy he was after Trump won? What little cognizance he has left is driven by spite. I can't predict what will happen, but it's not a guarantee he'll defend the Democrat's honor beyond affirming he signed the pardon for Hunter.

"Did you sign these pardons Mr. President Biden??"

"Hell man, I dunno man. My ice cream was wet man. Where's Jill? She makes the best ice cream man."
He would have to not only hate the Democrats which I disagree with that but alao hate every person he pardoned. There's definitely people on that list he doesn't hate who we're apart of his administration or close allies and putting any of the pardoned into question puts everyone at risk including his son. Joe Biden gains nothing from putting them into question and puts his family at risk.

Not to mention it puts into question every single action he took using an autopen signature and his entire presidency which I am sure there were things he did to fuck over this country that he is proud of still.
 
"As a former Trump voter...." "Now I'm as Republican as they come...." "I'm not a Liberal by any stretch but..." "This really sets a dangerous heccin' precedent...."
I'm handing out TMIs to everyone who sounds like this because the stink of your dilating is assaulting my nostrils through your words.

It will be amazing when we find out some democrat intern at some PAC found the "seminar caller handbook" that they used to use for Rush's show back in the day. One of the best bits I remember is Rush talking to one who got so flustered because they didn't have the correct premade response in front of them to the question and got tongue tied and admitted they were a democrat.
 
Doesn't seem the same since all of Bidens pardons were pre-emptive.
i.e. he pardoned a bunch of people who hadn't even been charged with crimes (fauci).
I mean I guess Hunter Biden sort of was charged with some sort of gun crime.
But he was never charged for the foreign shit.
This is of course the biggest issue for me, and I imagine so many others.

Yes we can sit here and theorize if Biden was cognizant enough to sign all of these pardons and know why he's signing him (he wasn't lol) but that is impossible to prove.

The real reason they are void is that they're preemptive. A president shouldn't be able to pardon someone for a crime that hasn't been committed yet or if committed, not even prosecuted.

That shouldn't be possible for all the obvious reasons. Trump should just give out pre-emptive pardons to anyone who walks up and shoots Fauci in the face if people honestly think that should be allowed, OR maybe just maybe we should remove that part out of presidential pardon powers now that it's been shown how it can be abused.
 
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Why is he doing that? He keeps looking down to his right and left, can he only visually talk while staring in acute angles? Fuck is wrong with him?

He can't even look the speaker in the damn eye while he's saying it, he just seems panicked or ashamed.
He's old as fuck, is definitely wearing out (physically and mentally), and most of all, it turns out carrying water and spitting venom for crooked politicians for decades can really grind a person down.

I hope he suffers horribly through every lingering minute of time he'll spend in the spotlight before being pushed aside for the next talking head.
 
Can someone mention me when Trump grants some sort of federal aid or disaster declaration or something else to states affected by the tornadoes/wildfires the last few days?
 
i love when this thread gets featured because i get to go through 40 pages of highlights that are just liberals repeating the same few reddit talking points as if they're gospel

it's like they're robots. "as a former trump voter, I think the ORANGE FUCKSTICK is going to do a CHRISTOFASCIST DICTATORSHIP and ELON MUSK DID A NAZI SALUTE ON STAGE and firebombing tesla dealerships is PROTESTING"
 
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