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The Democratic Party’s favorability rating among Americans stands at a record low, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, fueled in part by dimming views from its own frustrated supporters.

With many in the party saying publicly that their leaders should do more to stand up to President Donald Trump, Democrats and Democratic-aligned independents say, 57% to 42%, that Democrats should mainly work to stop the Republican agenda, rather than working with the GOP majority to get some Democratic ideas into legislation.
he survey was taken March 6-9, days before 10 Democratic senators — including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer — voted with Republicans in the chamber to advance a GOP-authored spending bill to avert a government shutdown, much to the chagrin of many other Democratic lawmakers and progressive critics.

The majority’s desire to fight the GOP marks a significant change in the party’s posture from the start of Trump’s first term. A September 2017 poll found a broad 74% majority of Democrats and Democratic leaners saying their party should work with Republicans in an attempt to advance their own priorities, and just 23% advocating for a more combative approach.
Democratic-aligned adults say, 52% to 48%, that the leadership of the Democratic Party is currently taking the party in the wrong direction. That’s another shift from eight years ago, when views on this metric were largely positive.

Among the American public overall, the Democratic Party’s favorability rating stands at just 29% – a record low in CNN’s polling dating back to 1992 and a drop of 20 points since January 2021, when Trump exited his first term under the shadow of the January 6 attack at on Capitol. The Republican Party’s rating currently stands at 36%.

That’s driven in part by relatively high levels of dissatisfaction within the Democratic Party. Just 63% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents report a favorable view of their own party, a dip from 72% in January and 81% at the start of President Joe Biden’s administration. The decline comes across ideological wings, with favorability ratings for the Democratic Party falling by 18 points among liberals and moderates alike since the start of 2021.

By contrast, 79% of Republicans and Republican leaners currently take a positive view of the GOP. Political independents as a group take dim views of both parties, with 19% rating the Democrats favorably and 20% saying the same of the Republicans.

Both the Democratic and the Republican parties are viewed by about half the public as having views and policies that are too extreme, rather than generally mainstream. That’s a change from 2022, when most Americans – 56% – called the Democratic Party’s positions mainstream. Views of the GOP have remained effectively unchanged over that time.

Political independents remain likelier to see the Republicans as out of the mainstream – 57% call the GOP too extreme, while 48% say the same of the Democrats. But 16% of Democrats call their own party too extreme, while just 9% of Republicans say the same of the GOP.

The public continues to draw a distinction between Trump and his party. Americans are 9 points likelier to call the president too extreme than to say the same of the Republican Party as a whole, although that’s down from an 18-point gap in 2022.

Democrats, who overwhelmingly consider Trump too extreme, have yet to consolidate around any one-party leader to serve as a counterpoint. Asked in an open-ended question to name the Democratic leader they feel “best reflects the core values” of the party, 10% of Democratic-aligned adults name New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 9% former vice president Kamala Harris, 8% Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and 6% House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. Another 4% each name former president Barack Obama and Texas Rep. Jasmine Crockett, with Schumer joining a handful of others at 2%.

More than 30% didn’t offer a name in response. “No one,” one respondent answered. “That’s the problem.”

Michigan Sen. Elissa Slotkin, who delivered the party’s response to Trump’s presidential address this month, remains largely unknown. A separate question finds that nearly three-quarters of Americans have never heard of her or have no opinion of her, with the remainder roughly split in their opinions. Slotkin is scarcely better known within her own party, although Democratic-aligned adults who do express a view of her are largely positive, 24% favorable to 6% unfavorable.

Ocasio Cortez’s stock in the party is especially high among those who describe themselves as liberal and those younger than 45, with roughly 1 in 6 within each of those groups calling her emblematic of the party’s values. No Democratic leader polled in the double digits among older adults or moderates on this metric.

Democratic-aligned adults’ views of their party and its leadership also divide sharply along demographic lines, the poll finds. Those who call themselves Democrats are far likelier than independents who lean toward the party to express favorable views of the Democrats (72% to 37%), and to say the party’s leaders are taking it in the right direction (53% to 34%).

And while the party leadership earns positive reviews from most Democratic-aligned women (57% of whom say they’re taking Democrats in the right direction), people of color (57%) and those without college degrees (60%), just 38% of men and 32% of White college graduates say the same.

By contrast, majorities across demographic lines say they want to see Democrats work to stop the Republican agenda, with little daylight between the views of those who describe themselves as Democrats, and those of independents who lean toward the party. The only remaining Democratic-aligned group to edge in favor of compromise are moderates: they say, 51% to 48%, that Democrats should mainly try to work with Republicans.

The CNN poll was conducted by SSRS from March 6-9 among a random national sample of 1,206 US adults drawn from a probability-based panel. Surveys were either conducted online or by telephone with a live interviewer. Results among all adults have a margin of sampling error of ±3.3 percentage points. Results among the 504 Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents have a margin of sampling error of ±5.0 percentage points.
 
I for one remember the days when right-wingers treated electric vehicles with extreme suspicion, and believed (correctly) that the only vehicles you can rely on that won't break down, spy on you, or be remotely accessed by the government were old vehicles that were as mechanical as possible and relied on as few computer functions as possible. I guess all you need to do to squash 90% of suspicion against something is to get leftists to ree at it. Tesla is for jeets.
personally didn't have problems with these other than the fact i don't like my cars having a bunch of electronics
if your grid is nuclear-powered, the pollution made by making the car (including disposal) is like 8 months of driving some 2005s corolla
I do think the whole "climate change" is vastly overexaggerated if not bullshit but i do believe air pollution is a bitch and car catalyzers can't really do much about it.
Even on the economic side, you can get a mileage price 1/4 of that of gasoline from nuclear plants even back when gas was reasonably priced, and far more if you're an eurofag where it's basically $2 per liter.
Repair-wise, i haven't heard anyone in the extended family complain about it, most one had to do was weld back a crack after being mildly T-boned, and it's especially true for tesla model S/Ys, while they had some problems in the 2016s (large panel gaps etc) it was fixed a few years later (munro live, some car inspector/adviser company ended up singing its praises in 2018s) to the point where it's essentially the best in every metric.

The remote control stuff is dubious as those models don't have anything to affect the steering, and i think even for cybertruck, the self-driving stuff has to be added on as a pack to mechanically affect the steering.

In general i'm kinda tired about everyone having to find ways to shit on tesla, going "muh cobalt child slave miners" despite it being easily proven false or many other thunderfoot-esque channels like adam something that are just hippies turning against something they used to soy over because they're just contrarian hipsters.
 
This is part of how leftists manage to gain so much ground (along with the literal billion-dollar money laundering schemes that fund them). They refuse to ever be satisfied. They got gay marriage and immediately moved on to tranny shit being the new big thing. If they ever manage to get that widely accepted, they'll move on to bestiality. Then pedophilia.
They use the slippery slope "fallacy" as a damn slip-n-slide.
Correct to both.

The Marxist/Neo-Marxist belief is a religious one, in which "the relentless march of History" can only ever move in a single direction, which is towards global revolution and the eventual upending of all hierarchal structures that supposedly "keep man from recognizing their true self" as a collective which has no distinction or separation from one another. Whether or not it was intentional, that "get with the times, bigot" statement is an accurate expression of this philosophy.
 
fortunately obama made sure even ICE cars can break down and spy on you and be remotely accessed by the government. the last "dumb cars" are about 15 years old.
Most people who say stuff like still end up driving newer cars out of convenience. Meanwhile, I'm driving around in a 1991 Mercury. Not very many people put their money where their mouth is, sadly.
 
I find all these "fuck Chuck Schumer" protests to be utterly hilarious. Like, what exactly do they expect the Senate minority leader to do? Compose a strongly worded letter?
They want him to shut the government down to spite Trump. The same thing a lot of here want the GOP to do during the Biden Admin, and they promptly called them RINOs, cucks, and uniparty stooges for refusing to do.

It's all pointless though cause despite how much attention AOC gets from the media she's ultimately a nobody with no power or leverage and will get torn apart if she took a shot at Schumer.
 
The same thing a lot of here want the GOP to do during the Biden Admin, and they promptly called them RINOs, cucks, and uniparty stooges for refusing to do.
Alot of people just wanted the GOP to actually legislate rather than letting Dems literally get everything they want everytime. GOP would play government shutdown brinkmanship and never actually accomplish anything. Ironic that it is now Dems who had this happen to them.
 
Alot of people just wanted the GOP to actually legislate rather than letting Dems literally get everything they want everytime. GOP would play government shutdown brinkmanship and never actually accomplish anything. Ironic that it is now Dems who had this happen to them.
And were they suppose to accomplish that? They had a narrow 4 seat lead in the house and a 50/50 in the senate that Kamala would break, to end with a Biden admin that could veto anything they could get across.
 
I forget the country, but the US public education system was based on another country's that had the explicit goal of training factory workers. People just smart enough to run the machines but not smart enough to rise above their lot in life.

I believe that it's usually attributed to Prussia if it's the same quote that I'm thinking of. There's another, similar one that states that there are only two systems that are basically unchanged since the country was founded. The prison system and the education system.

To what extent you want to believe those is up to you, but the notion that our education system is in need of change or reform is hardly new. Destroying the grip up the teacher's union and giving parents the ability to choose schools will by itself lead to better outcomes. If nothing else it gives those who want to find a better way the opportunity to do so and even if some of them don't do much better, eventually something will be more successful.
 
I know it's easy to doom and gloom when you see shit judges do things like this but you gota remember that Trump has some of the best lawyers in the business on his side so there is zero chance they didn't know this was coming.
to be fair, fanboys literally said that back in 2020 when trump tried to get the courts to see biden cheated in the election.
I’m not so merciful as to give them the end of the year. I’d personally give them until May/June
too bad trump's giving them the next 4 years.
y. They can't possibly expect this to go well for them
except they can, Roberts and most of the rest of the appeals and supreme court judges are spineless cucks and won't stop them. Its like when a black guy commits a crime, why wouldn't they expect shit to go well for them? they commit 90 other offensives without being smacked down for it. why would it start now?
Most people who say stuff like still end up driving newer cars out of convenience. Meanwhile, I'm driving around in a 1991 Mercury. Not very many people put their money where their mouth is, sadly.
honestly if you look at what people are doing with the ECU in cars the last decade or so i'm sure if you look hard enough someone or some group has come out of a way to remove a lot of the features in these cars people are afraid of, basically making an "unchromium" version of the cars.
 
The Democratic Party’s favorability rating among Americans stands at a record low, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, fueled in part by dimming views from its own frustrated supporters.
Remember when CNN saved Kamala's ass in the final week of the election by giving her a massive +6 in Wisconsin that just barely dragged her above water in the RCP average?
 
“As of October 2014 the CIA was also looking at infecting the vehicle control systems used by modern cars and trucks. The purpose of such control is not specified, but it would permit the CIA to engage in nearly undetectable assassinations.” -Wikileaks Vault 7
Michael Hastings’ assassination: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/03/09/hastings-m09.html
What's wild about all this is that this isn't even secret; there are numerous examples in cyberpunk and other science-fiction stories of remotely-piloted vehicles getting hacked and used to kidnap or kill their occupants.
 
The Democratic Party’s favorability rating among Americans stands at a record low, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, fueled in part by dimming views from its own frustrated supporters.

With many in the party saying publicly that their leaders should do more to stand up to President Donald Trump, Democrats and Democratic-aligned independents say, 57% to 42%, that Democrats should mainly work to stop the Republican agenda, rather than working with the GOP majority to get some Democratic ideas into legislation.

The Democrats are fucked right now, and they need to figure out how they're going to cut the Gordian knot they find themselves in.

Their popularity is tanking, but it's not as clear-cut as that article implies. It's not just tanking because "democrats want them to stake a stronger stand against trump", it's also tanking because a lot of their policies and behaviors are reprehensible and wildly unpopular even among many of their constituents. Supporting violent gang members being allowed to remain in the US in a blind "all anti-immigration stances are bad" backlash, or going full-steam-ahead on the "men in women's sports" thing even as it's demonstrated time and time again that the result is neither safe nor fair. Coddling people like Mulvaney who make even honest trans women recoil in horror, and putting up with the recent "trans women are biological women" nonsense from some of the radical trans activists.

But if they try to step back to regain their more moderate supporters, they're going to lose their activist and radical supporters - as we've seen when they dared to even suggest they might not be entirely on the side of the Palestine protestors.

Right now, there is no winning move in the game for them.
 
How can a judge make a ruling in favor of foreign criminals? Isn't that aiding and abiding a criminal act?
How can a judge override the Commander in Chief of the US military and tell them to turn individual Air Force planes around?

I don't think that is separation of powers and checks and balances.
 
Regarding 2020, the quality of Trumps lawyers, etc.

The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.

Every single state that changed their voting process to allow vote by mail en mass did so without amending their laws/consitiutions with a vote in the state house, nearly all of them merely pointed to other states doing the same, something most state constitutions explicitly rule out as a justification as states are supposed to excercise a great deal of independence on how they individually run their election.

This all occurred, of course, when the revered Dr. Faucci said that in person voting would be safe. The one thing out of this guys fucking mouth that wasnt adhered slavishly or listened too and instead we got the mess that we got.

Though tbh, Trump not backing down and winning in 2024 was almost worth all the bullshit. Almost.
 
Regarding 2020, the quality of Trumps lawyers, etc.

The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.

Every single state that changed their voting process to allow vote by mail en mass did so without amending their laws/consitiutions with a vote in the state house, nearly all of them merely pointed to other states doing the same, something most state constitutions explicitly rule out as a justification as states are supposed to excercise a great deal of independence on how they individually run their election.

This all occurred, of course, when the revered Dr. Faucci said that in person voting would be safe. The one thing out of this guys fucking mouth that wasnt adhered slavishly or listened too and instead we got the mess that we got.

Though tbh, Trump not backing down and winning in 2024 was almost worth all the bullshit. Almost.
I feel you. But I still haven't been told when the exact moment standing is lost or when mootness begins.

The timing on these cases is like trying to win a rigged carnival game.
 
The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.
That is 100% NOT TRUE. They DID try to file before the election. The judges told them their issue was that they didn't suffer any tangible, measurable damages. They specifically told the Trump Administration they wouldn't hear the case because he hadn't lost the election yet. Effectively saying, you cannot sue before the election. So once the election had happened, they turned around and claimed standing and latches. Effectively saying you cannot sue over the election because you cannot sue before or during and you cannot sue after due to standings. It was a 100% corrupt decision and never forget it was fucking that traitor Roberts that did it.

As it currently stands in the US you cannot sue over a clearly rigged election.
 
The problem with 99% of the cases was standing. William Barr explicitly told Trump this would be the case, that lawsuits and objections needed to be filed prior to the election, and he didn't listen.

Every single state that changed their voting process to allow vote by mail en mass did so without amending their laws/consitiutions with a vote in the state house, nearly all of them merely pointed to other states doing the same, something most state constitutions explicitly rule out as a justification as states are supposed to excercise a great deal of independence on how they individually run their election.
So what they did was still blatantly illegal, according to their own constitutions, but because Fauci said to do it no one had any standing to stop it?

I’m still pissed off about the DC judge ordering illegal gangs back into the country- it’s the most egregious case of (illegal) judicial overreach I’ve ever seen. A bureaucrat can override voting laws because of… a scamdemic? And a federal judge has more executive power than the president; he can order criminal gangs back into the country because… he says so? When neither of them have the authority to do either, but no one can go against because… no standing. It’s all fucking insane. Leftists can take their fascism rhetoric and shove it.

That is 100% NOT TRUE. They DID try to file before the election. The judges told them their issue was that they didn't suffer any tangible, measurable damages. They specifically told the Trump Administration they wouldn't hear the case because he hadn't lost the election yet. Effectively saying, you cannot sue before the election. So once the election had happened, they turned around and claimed standing and latches. Effectively saying you cannot sue over the election because you cannot sue before or during and you cannot sue after due to standings. It was a 100% corrupt decision and never forget it was fucking that traitor Roberts that did it.
Hey look more standing catch-22 retardation. God these courts are insane.
 
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