Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Thomas Talus]

Does anyone else feel a little disappointed when they check the thread and there hasn't been a new filing that day?

 

[FamicomGorby]

Does anyone else feel a little disappointed when they check the thread and there hasn't been a new filing that day?

You mean like your post?

I don't get excited unless it's a post by Useful_Mistake popping up. Isn't there a deadline this week to look forward to though?

 

[obsdj]

Isn't there a deadline this week to look forward to though?

I don't think so. The only actual deadline I'm aware of is March 14, by which time Greer has to pay the drastically-reduced sanctions ordered by the District Judge. There are plenty of other open items that the Magistrate should be weighing in on, but maybe he's on vacation or some shit? All last week there was no action from him despite their being multiple motions/filings from previous weeks.

 

[DavidS877]

I don't think so. The only actual deadline I'm aware of is March 14, by which time Greer has to pay the drastically-reduced sanctions ordered by the District Judge. There are plenty of other open items that the Magistrate should be weighing in on, but maybe he's on vacation or some shit? All last week there was no action from him despite their being multiple motions/filings from previous weeks.

March 14th is also the date Hardin has given for his response to the amended complaint and the court accepted.

 

[obsdj]

March 14th is also the date Hardin has given for his response to the amended complaint and the court accepted.

Is that affected by Hardin's motion to stay discovery until the additional defendants have been served? Or will he need to file additional motions for extension of time on the response?

 

[DavidS877]

Is that affected by Hardin's motion to stay discovery until the additional defendants have been served? Or will he need to file additional motions for extension of time on the response?

I'd think they're two independent threads. Hardin's response is due for his clients, he could again request more time but it doesn't really matter as to the outcome of the stay request. Until/unless the stay is granted discovery continues towards the original date for that and Hardin was just pointing out, "Hey, if there are more parties then this whole discovery thing needs to start over.", where the 'reply to the complaint' is a fairly formal point by point dissection of the complaint. I expect we will see more non-reply motions but the reply is the reply.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The litigants (plaintiff and defense) have to operate to the deadlines established by the court. (As we know, that's kind of fluid on the side of the prose retárd.)

The court doesn't really have to operate to any timelines or deadlines, even its own.

 

[Bridgeburner]

Does anyone else feel a little disappointed when they check the thread and there hasn't been a new filing that day?

You can always tell if the new filing dropped if there's like 3 new pages of the thread since you last time you checked.

 

[StinkySnack]

You can always tell if the new filing dropped if there's like 3 new pages of the thread since you last time you checked.

I’d say more like 6 new pages is a good indicator. There’s a handful of people here who can shit up 3 pages of this thread with Russ-level retarded takes in just a few hours.

Now look at me being one of them..

 

[Useful_Mistake]

It's like a joke

 

[FamicomGorby]

Judge told Greer that Hardin didn't violate the SPO,



Greer refuses to accept this and writes an entire motion about how he didn't read the SPO but knows that Hardin violated it because of how he assumed it worked. Also he still has never cited exactly what in the SPO Hardin violated.




I really hope the Judge actually tells Greer off for this one, *insert rainbows here*, but this motion is Greer just literally saying that he didn't fucking read something and bitching that things don't work the way he wants them to. Great way to show the judge that you're serious about this four year old death march of a case.

 

[Throwing Romans]

First off, it was explained by this Court that there was a standard protective order on 11-18-
24. Although Greer never saw the actual order, it was inferred that everything was protected.
Plaintiff had no idea he had to write “attorneys eyes only.” He was just going off of a blanket
assumption.

Plaintiff simply requested the SPO so he could read it exactly to file a motion of sanctions of
his own

HOW COULD YOU HAVE KNOWN THEY VIOLATED AN ORDER YOU ADMIT YOU DIDN'T FUCKING READ? I still do not believe he's read the order. Nothing in this filing indicates he has any fucking understanding of what the order contained. Makes Acerthorn look like Clarence fucking Thomas.

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

Additionally, it was plaintiff’s opinion, based on facts, that defendants violated the SPO. Plaintiff shouldn’t be sanctioned for expressing his opinion.

Plaintiff replies that Defendants did indeed violate the protection order.

In your opinion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_fOu7RcsQ4

 

[Helvetia]

0:05

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

It’s juvenile, in a way, that defendants continue to protest everything.

This is just astonishing, especially coming from someone who (sort of) graduated from paralegal school. I genuinely would like for someone to ask him, in a formal setting, exactly what he thinks the role of an attorney, and especially a defense attorney, is. Does he honestly think that their job is to simply roll over and accept whatever he files uncritically and without reply?

Also: Why do I get the feeling that he's trying (unsuccessfully, of course maybe possibly I hope) to set up grounds for an appeal?

 

[Atomic Ant]

I genuinely would like for someone to ask him, in a formal setting, exactly what he thinks the role of an attorney, and especially a defense attorney, is.

It's been said a few times that Plaintiff thinks that Hardin is his attorney (or at least some neutral party) and is being unethical by advocating for his employer. It sounds insane but the more filings he shits out the more I believe it. Like maybe he thinks that because he chose to pursue this pro-se it precludes the defense's ability to be represented as well.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

ECF 234 is practically ancient fucking history at this point!

It is neither "excessive" nor "juvenile" for Defendants to adequately defend themselves against libellous statements.

The horseshit you are drooling is not "an opinion". The order was either violated or it wasn't. You still can't discern whether or not it was violated because you once again don't know what the fuck you're talking about despite several attempts to educate you on the matter, Shitlips.

What you assume to be confidential and what is confidential are 2 different things. If you think the judge is going to be amused by your continued wilful ignorance on the matter, you're even more retarded than you look.

 

[The Man With No Name]

This is just astonishing, especially coming from someone who (sort of) graduated from paralegal school. I genuinely would like for someone to ask him, in a formal setting, exactly what he thinks the role of an attorney, and especially a defense attorney, is. Does he honestly think that their job is to simply roll over and accept whatever he files uncritically and without reply?

Also: Why do I get the feeling that he's trying (unsuccessfully, of course maybe possibly I hope) to set up grounds for an appeal?

Now comes the defendant.

Plaintiff Greer is right about everything, and I don't actually need him to prove it in any form. His law skills are frankly stunning and better than both myself and the judge's, which is why he was able to intuit the SPO without ever reading it or invoking it.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

It's the exhibit that's infuriating to me, not just for the way he speaks to Mr Hardin, but the whining about his precious time etc. when none of this would be happening if Russell hadn't started it in the first place.

 

[Sneed Force One]

Not sure if I'm skirting the recent thread rules here by saying this (mods delete my shit if you need to) but someone really needs to decide what kind of case they actually want to litigate. Harassment or intellectual property infringement? Pick one.

Also the "I'm just a retard your honor" defence makes me so fucking MATI, YOU chose to file pro se fuckhead, that doesn't absolve you of due diligence and punctuality with court deadlines. Fuck man.