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Woke Justice at Its Most Horrifying — the Ahmaud Arbery Case​

The McMichaels, accused of murdering Arbery, were unlucky enough to have entered the portal of woke justice when BLM was in its ascendancy.


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Raw video: Ahmaud Arbery shooting in Georgia (WSB-TV/Youtube)

by Jack Cashill
February 15, 2025, 10:30 PM

“Ahmaud Arbery was murdered,” said Judge Timothy Walmsley with the solemnity befitting the Chatham County Superior Court in Brunswick, Georgia.

“A resident of Glynn County, a graduate of Brunswick High, a son, a brother, a young man with dreams was gunned down in this community,” Walmsley continued. “As we understand it, he left his home apparently to go for a run and he ended up running for his life.”

Although both men were veterans with unblemished records, each was charged with felony murder and denied bond.

So saying, Walmsley summed up what the jury was allowed to know about Arbery, 25, at the time of his February 2020 death in the coastal community of Satilla Shores, Georgia. Either out of fear or ambition or some combination of the two, Walmsley had grossly misrepresented the reality of Arbery’s troubled life and death to justify the draconian sentences he was about to hand down to the men who “murdered” him — Greg McMichael, then 64, his son Travis, 34, and their neighbor Roddie Bryan, 50 .

Unknown to the jurors, America was entering its 10th year in the era of woke justice, an all but unremarked break from the leftist past. Historically, to highlight racial injustice, real or imagined, leftists had made a practice of romanticizing the guilty — Sacco and Vanzetti, Leonard Peltier, Mumia Abu-Jamal etc. — and proclaiming their innocence.

The 2012 arrest of George Zimmerman for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin signaled a dark turn in American history. With the tacit support of Barack Obama’s Department of Justice, activists now felt free to frame innocent citizens and proclaim their guilt. Mob-dictated and media-driven, woke justice would indict the not guilty, almost all of them white, in case after case for the next decade and more.

The year 2020 would see a major escalation in the woke reign of judicial terror. Appropriately perhaps, the troubles for Travis McMichael, a Coast Guard veteran turned escort boat pilot, began on January 1 of that fateful year.

“I need a police officer. I need to report a stolen pistol,” he told the 911 dispatcher late that morning. Living with his parents after breaking up with his son’s mother, Travis had left the door of his truck unlocked for less than an hour in the driveway of his family’s humble suburban home.

As was admitted in court, the neighborhood was “on edge.” Other residents of Satilla Shores had been calling 911 to report break-ins and suspicious behavior. Among the callers was Travis’s father Greg McMichael, a U.S. Navy veteran and retired chief investigator for the Glynn County district attorney’s office.

“We got a lot of break-ins in this area out here, automobile break-ins,” he calmly told a supervisor. He and Travis had discovered a “shady looking fellow” living under a nearby bridge. “We just wanted to make someone aware there was someone living under there,” he told the dispatcher.

On February 11, 2020, at 7:27 p.m., a nervous Travis called 911 for a second time. “We’ve got a string of burglaries in the neighborhood, and I just caught a guy running into a house being built,” he said. The house, in question, was just two doors down from his own.

When asked what the man looked like, Travis described him as “a black male, red shirt, white shorts.” Upon seeing Travis in his truck, the man reached into his pocket, “acting like he was armed.” With the police on the way, Travis wanted them to be “mindful of that.”

The parallels to the 2012 Zimmerman case in neighboring Florida are stunning. A neighborhood watch captain in a crime-ridden community, Zimmerman called the dispatcher from his truck upon seeing Martin lurking in the shadows. Martin, too, feigned having a gun. Zimmerman also identified Martin as black only after being asked to describe him. In each case, that identification would be used to suggest racist intent.

As Travis sat in his truck across from the house awaiting the police, he was startled to see the man use a flashlight to navigate through the house. Travis, now joined by other neighbors, stayed on the line. “About four of us over here now,” he told the dispatcher. By the time police showed up, the man was gone.

Unknown to the jurors, other relevant people had called 911 to report on Arbery’s troubled behavior. These included Arbery’s own mother who confessed to being frightened of her own son. Much like Trayvon Martin, Arbery was caught in a downward emotional spiral that, in this case, turned a “young man with dreams” into a pathological thief and chronic troublemaker.

In December 2018, Arbery was diagnosed with Schizoaffective Disorder. He claimed to have had hallucinations that instructed him to hurt people. In March 2019, he told his probation officer he wasn’t taking the prescribed meds because they upset his stomach. No one appeared to have followed up. In the final months of his life, Arbery engaged in reckless, obsessive shoplifting and, when caught, proved capable of resisting forcefully.

The jury heard none of this. In his pretrial rulings, Walmsley barred any testimony about Arbery’s “bad acts,” observing that the “character of the victim is neither relevant nor admissible in a murder trial.” Citing medical privacy, he ruled out Arbery’s mental health records as well. True to form, Walmsley did allow photos of the Confederate flag emblem on Travis’s truck.

At the outset of his sentencing lecture, Judge Walmsley chose to engage in some “theatrics.” For one minute, he said nothing. He wanted the court to absorb just for a moment the angst of Arbery’s last five minutes. Upon reflection, said a somber Walmsley, “My thoughts kept coming back to the terror that must have been in the mind of the young man running through Satilla Shores.”

Based on the audio and video evidence and Arbery’s history, if anything ran through Arbery’s mind it was rage. Much like Trayvon Martin, anger appears to have driven him — anger at anyone representing authority, from his mother to the store clerks who restrained him to the frustrated Satilla Shores neighbors trying to protect their community. Just as the reckless Martin attacked Zimmerman, Arbery even more recklessly, suicidally even, would attack Travis McMichael.

At 1:08 p.m. on the fateful Sunday, February 23, 2020, Satilla Shores neighbor Matthew Albenze called 911 to alert the police to “a black guy, white t-shirt” rummaging through a house under construction. Albenze added, “And he’s been caught on camera a bunch at night. It’s kind of an ongoing thing.” Albenze was correct. Security camera videos captured Arbery entering the unfinished house five times between October 2019 and February 2020, including on that very day.

Working in his driveway, Greg saw this same black guy run by. He called out to Travis and said, “The guy is running down the street; let’s go.” The two climbed into Travis’s F-150, Travis behind the wheel, Greg initially in the passenger seat wedged in against his grandson’s car seat.

When the McMichaels pulled up parallel to the jogging Arbery, Greg yelled out to him, “Hey, buddy, we just want to talk to you. The police are on the way.” This was one of several attempts the McMichaels made to reason with him during this five-minute sequence.

For his part, Arbery just stared at the McMichaels blankly and then ran in the opposite direction. Upon learning of Arbery’s Schizoaffective Disorder, that look made sense to the father and son.

Without being asked, neighbor Roddie Bryan joined in the pursuit in his own truck. At one point, Arbery reached out and tried to open Bryan’s door, leaving a mark on the vehicle. Having moved to the truck bed to ease his recently replaced hip, Greg saw the encounter from a distance.

Travis stopped the vehicle to give Greg his cell phone to call 911. Now, Arbery was running toward their truck. Bryan, following behind Arbery, recorded the critical sequence on his cell phone while driving.

The viewer first sees Arbery from a distance running, his pace almost casual. Alarmed by Arbery’s earlier behavior, Travis had dismounted from the truck and was standing by the open left front door with a shotgun at his side. A boarding officer during his time in the Coast Guard, Travis was well trained in its use.

Greg, standing in the truck bed, holds the phone up against his ear with one hand, his revolver in the other hand. ”I’m out here at Satilla Shores,” Greg told the dispatcher. “There’s a black male running down the street.” When asked where at Satilla Shore, Greg replied: “I don’t know what street we’re on,” then shouted at Arbery, “Stop! … Watch that. Stop, damn it! Stop!” He then dropped the phone.

Approaching the truck from the rear, Arbery had seen Travis on the left side and headed around the right. For reasons unknown, Arbery chose not to escape into an unfenced green space on his right. Instead, he abruptly turned left at the front of the truck, headed towards Travis at full speed, and grabbed the barrel of his shotgun.

Caught off guard, Travis found himself engaged in a life and death struggle for the gun. One shot went off in front of the truck, and a second was fired after the men moved out of frame.

When the two moved back into view, both were still holding on to the barrel of the gun. At this point, Arbery let go of the gun with one hand to punch Travis in the head, the fifth or so time he struck him. Now, the third shot was fired. All three shots had hit Arbery, the last shot fatally.

As with the Zimmerman case, local authorities ruled the homicide justifiable, citing in this case Georgia’s citizen arrest law. In both cases, under mounting pressure from national media and various race hustlers, the state attorney general’s office — Republican in each case — took control of the case away from the locals.

On May 7, 2020, within 36 hours of taking over the case, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation swooped down on the McMichaels’ home. With some 20 heavily armed officers backing him, and several news crews capturing his every move, GBI Agent Richard Dial arrested Greg and Travis and led them away in handcuffs while Travis’s 3-year-old son looked on in horror.

Although both men were veterans with unblemished records, each was charged with felony murder and denied bond. The one advantage George Zimmerman had is that Black Lives Matter did not exist until the day after his July 2013 acquittal. When the McMichaels entered the portal of woke justice, BLM was in its ascendancy. The timing could not have been worse. The McMichaels faced their preliminary hearing on June 4, 2020, nine days and $2 billion worth of damage after George Floyd’s death. By this time, even GOP worthies were taking the knee.

At the hearing the McMichaels learned that on his fourth interview with the authorities, Roddie Bryan, likely hoping to avoid punishment, remembered that Travis had said “fucking nigger” over the dying Arbery. Testifying for the State, the GBI’s Dial repeated those words in the televised hearing. Now, all hope was truly lost for the McMichaels.

In the show trial that began in November 2021, just months after Derek Chauvin’s trial ended in Minneapolis, prosecutors chose not to enter Travis’s alleged racial slur into evidence. They knew the McMichaels could prove Travis did not say it. The 911 dispatcher was still on the line when Travis allegedly used the slur. Prosecutors settled on “asshole” instead. In a curious parallel, the media insisted George Zimmerman had called Trayvon Martin a “coon.” Prosecutors in that case settled on “thug.”

Before handing down the sentence, the pious Walmsley offered the court a bromide so counter to common sense it is worthy of disbarment. “Assuming the worst in others we show our worst character,” said the judge. “Assuming the best in others is always the best action.”

If Walmsley even half-believed what he said, how did he possibly justify sentencing the McMichaels, father and son, to life without parole. Bryan got life as well. His cooperation earned him a “with parole,” woke justice at its most merciless.

J’accuse!

 
What video were you watching?

The one with the shooting, you should check it out. It's obvious he has running shoes on and not heavy work boots.

It's not even material anyway. You can't detain someone at gunpoint no matter what they have on their feet. It's called kidnapping.

If you see someone raping a woman or running out of a bank with a ski mask and a gun, that's a different story.
 
Wow. I didnt keep up nor understnd this case when it happened. I aleays thought "well if you kill someone, and youre found guilty, you must had done it cause of ill intent". How fucking naive i was in my 20s. I feel like im waking up from a brainwash.
Welcome to hell.
 
Me not understanding the obsession with the jogging thing. He could have flown there on the wings of a fucking angel for all anyone cares. If you have to circle the block and chase someone down in two cars, THEN YOU ARE NOT IN FEAR FOR YOUR LIFE AND CANNOT CLAIM SELF DEFENSE
When someone physically charges at you and grabs your weapon, it does not matter how many times you circled the block preceding that. The moment someone charges at you and reaches for your weapon, you are being physically assaulted and should be well within your rights to defend yourself, as you're more likely to die than survive otherwise. The moment he charged at Travis, the moment he grabbed his gun, anything preceding that, including the number of times they circled the block with their trucks, became irrelevant.

Let's say Travis had not shot him, but simply let Ahmoud take his gun. We know in hindsight that Ahmoud was a mental case and off his meds, so Ahmoud would 100% have shot him, the father, the bystander, and any number of other locals. Countless innocent lives wiped out because won't somebody think of the feral nigger.
And in that instant when you're the person in Travis' situation, being assaulted by a violent criminal, you don't have the benefit of hindsight. The nigger that's charging at you COULD hypothetically be a good samaritan who merely wants to talk about the bible from really close, close enough to grab your firearm. But he could also, more likely, be a feral nigger reaching for a lethal weapon with intent to use it on you and others. You don't know what goes on in the mind of another person, so you need to err on the side of survival.

And, if you want to obsess over 'muh brandishing a firearm', let's talk about people brandishing firearms from Ahmoud's perspective. You are at a safe distance from someone, you see them stop their vehicle and slowly get out with a shotgun. Your choices are
  1. Run away and be fine since you're already at a distance and there's no way this fat fuck can keep up with you.
  2. Put your hands in the air and try to resolve this without getting shot.
  3. Charge directly at the armed man and reach for his gun.
How is it that a nigger picks 3 in this scenario and catches zero responsibility for this decision?

Blah blah blah but they braaaandeeesheed! Muh braaaandeeesheeeng!
You do realize what that word means, right? There's a reason people distinguish between 'brandishing' a firearm and 'aiming' a firearm. Brandishing just means they have a weapon in their hand. They haven't raised it, they haven't aimed it at anyone and they haven't pulled the trigger, they merely have it on them without trying to conceal it. Possession of a firearm is not a crime, nor does it justify an assault.
>but he held it with his HAND therefore it's BRAAANDEEESHING AND MORE THREATENING
He doesn't have telekinesis, how was he supposed to hold it?
>he was supposed to leave it in a safe and try to engage Ahmoud unarmed
You do know Ahmoud was armed himself, right? A hammer is still a weapon, even if it's not a firearm. The decisions your rationale tries to force onto the McMichaels are suicidal, you do realize that, right?
Were the McMichaels threatening enough to run from, or were they picture perfect angels that only wanted conversation?
Well obviously not the former since Ahmoud felt safe enough to charge directly at one of them.
And speaking of choices, lets fixate entirely on the McMichaels' choices including ones irrelevant to the self-defense while removing any accountability from Ahmoud
How about no we don't do that and instead, we examine Ahmoud's decisions in the exact same way?
1. Ahmoud could have chosen to stay home
2. Ahmoud could have chosen to not enter any buildings.
3. Ahmoud could have chosen to go anywhere else other than the White residential area.
4. Ahmoud could have chosen to just sit in his car or whatever vehicle he came with and do nothing.
5. Ahmoud could have chosen to listen to the McMichaels, talk to them and then stop breaking into houses.
5. Ahmoud could have taken the firearms as a sign that antagonizing them further was a bad idea and wait for the police to arrive and clear this up.
6. Ahmoud could have just taken a picture of the McMichaels, ran away and sent it to the police.

And one of your excuses was retarded enough that I need to bring it up a second time
6. They could have just taken a picture of Arbery and sent it to the police
They were past the point where this was tried and played out the exact same way that every 'wait for the police' solution did: Namely with the police never lifting a finger and the burglaries continuing unabated.
How many burglaries do the cops need to allow until you decide that hoping they fix it isn't a solution?
 
This was the moment of no return for me when it comes to media dishonesty. Some outlet - I don't remember which one - edited the Zimmerman call to make it sound like he just blurted out "he looks black" apropos of nothing, and of course all the NPC retards fell for it. By the time the truth came out it was too late. He was already a rabid white supremacist in the eyes of the public.

It was the most obvious race baiting and lying I had ever seen from the media and I'll never forget it. They're all dead to me.
Funniest shit is when they photoshop Zimmerman's pictures to make him look lighter skinned when IRL he's a brown as fuck Latino.
 
The one with the shooting, you should check it out. It's obvious he has running shoes on and not heavy work boots.

It's not even material anyway. You can't detain someone at gunpoint no matter what they have on their feet. It's called kidnapping.

If you see someone raping a woman or running out of a bank with a ski mask and a gun, that's a different story.

Georgia allowed this until the Arbery case, which was used as the justification for removing it. I understand if you come from a country where you have to let people invade your property and abuse you, but you don't seem to know what you're talking about.

An activist judge used this tragedy to take rights away from citizens and reserve more power for central government.
 
If you live in a rural area and have to kill a bigger in self defense
It would be a bad position to be in, but you'd have better odds of evasion than in a city.

No one in rural areas will call the cops to report they heard a gunshot in the distance. They'd end up calling the cops all day, every day. If you've lived rural, you how often you hear rifles in the distance.

If a random nigger goes missing, would his family or friends would even be able to report where he was going?
 
In conclusion, I will repeat myself: I do not feel bad for retards or niggers regardless of skin color. If you do, then that just makes you a retarded nigger.
You're fucking retarded. The person 100% to blame for the death of Ahmaud Arbery is Arbery himself. The violent nigger made the choice to rush a dude with a shotgun and fight him for it after being caught committing crimes. Instead of waiting for the police (because he was out on parole for other robberies) or running into the wooded area where a truck couldn't follow him (because he's a violent nigger that wanted to shoot people dead). Or not being a criminal scumbag caught in the act of burglary in the first place by getting a normalfag job and earning an honest living.

But blacks are unable to be held accountable for their decisions or even ascribed any agency for their actions because they are incapable of following rules like a dumb animal or idiot child, right? That is probably why, despite his long history of violent crimes, the State simply kept releasing Arbery to commit more and more crime. He couldn't be held responsible, because blacks are subhuman animals.

If you're looking to blame someone, blame the State. They abdicated their duty in policing Ahmaud specifically (he should have been in jail for his prior crimes but they let him continue escalating) and that neighborhood in general. The local police literally gave McMichaels number to citizens to call for help since they (the uniformed cops) weren't going to bother with crime in the neighborhood.

Then when the problem they actively ignored got handled ineptly suddenly justice demands that the citizens pay for the failures of the state? That is bullshit.
 
When someone physically charges at you and grabs your weapon, it does not matter how many times you circled the block preceding that. The moment someone charges at you and reaches for your weapon, you are being physically assaulted and should be well within your rights to defend yourself, as you're more likely to die than survive otherwise. The moment he charged at Travis, the moment he grabbed his gun, anything preceding that, including the number of times they circled the block with their trucks, became irrelevant.
It absolutely matters if you go out seeking a confrontation. Which they did, considering they brought guns. You CANNOT orchestrate a self defense situation. That's why Sam Hyde joke works.
Wah wah wah, brandishing doesn't mean that!
You're just flat out wrong about what brandishing means, and you getting triggered over me bringing it up tells me you know that.
Well obviously not the former since Ahmoud felt safe enough to charge directly at one of them.
The video shows the McMichaels roll up in front of Arbery, and jump out holding their weapons. Arbery ducks to the side to take cover before attempting to fight the dad off. The only alternatives youve given are "run away faster than the bullet" or "stand still and take it like a bitch" both of which show you're not actually all that big on self defense.
How about no we don't do that and instead, we examine Ahmoud's decisions in the exact same way?
1. Ahmoud could have chosen to stay home
2. Ahmoud could have chosen to not enter any buildings.
3. Ahmoud could have chosen to go anywhere else other than the White residential area.
4. Ahmoud could have chosen to just sit in his car or whatever vehicle he came with and do nothing.
5. Ahmoud could have chosen to listen to the McMichaels, talk to them and then stop breaking into houses.
5. Ahmoud could have taken the firearms as a sign that antagonizing them further was a bad idea and wait for the police to arrive and clear this up.
6. Ahmoud could have just taken a picture of the McMichaels, ran away and sent it to the police.

And one of your excuses was retarded enough that I need to bring it up a second time
Dumbass, my original point was that everyone involved is retarded and deserved to die. Your point is that the McMichaels aren't retards. I could agree with every point in your list, and you'd still lose the argument.
They were past the point where this was tried and played out the exact same way that every 'wait for the police' solution did: Namely with the police never lifting a finger and the burglaries continuing unabated.
How many burglaries do the cops need to allow until you decide that hoping they fix it isn't a solution?
You cannot use property theft as a reason for your retardation if the person ACTUALLY being stolen from tells you to fuck off. The McMichaels aren't a martyr for a grand cause. They're idiots who recorded themselves shooting a man and were shocked they got charged with murder for it.

And you don't actually give a shit about them. You did not develop enough of a sentimental bond to these random yahoos that you're actually emotionally distraught over their incarceration. You're just an outrage junkie upset that I'm ruining your dopamine fix by pointing out everyone involved got what they deserved: the consequence of their own actions.
 
And you don't actually give a shit about them. You did not develop enough of a sentimental bond to these random yahoos that you're actually emotionally distraught over their incarceration.
I don't need to. It's called long-term thinking. That time, Travis was the one getting assaulted and then imprisoned for life. Next time it could be you, or it could be me. That's the problem when 'justice' systems protect criminals and penalize law-abiding citizens rather than doing the opposite. Obeying the law no longer protects you, anybody could be next on the chopping block.
 
It absolutely matters if you go out seeking a confrontation. Which they did, considering they brought guns. You CANNOT orchestrate a self defense situation. That's why Sam Hyde joke works.
They had guns in case the violent criminal in their neighborhood decided to make the situation violent, which he did. Putting on my seatbelt when I hop into the car doesn't mean I intend to t-bone someone at the intersection, having a fire extinguisher in my truck doesn't mean I'm planning some arson, and packing a firearm doesn't mean you're planning violence.

I guess you're of the school that demands people disarm completely and just let violent apes attack, rape, rob and murder at will.

You cannot use property theft
Property thieves deserve death. Don't try to give me some bullshit about how theft doesn't hurt anyone, that insurance will cover it all! So stealing is hunky-dory, A-OK, and that only a bloodthirsty barbarian would ever dream of shooting a thief! Its horseshit.

It fails at the premise level; theft is never harmless. Even if someone were fully compensated after a burglary, their sense of safety and security in their home is taken from them. However, nobody is fully compensated - insurance for example has deductibles, and is ill suited to cover the time and effort spent to replace what can be replaced. The minor jewelry the thief will sell for a few dollars of crack was a family heirloom, for example, or the ruined photographs and personal items that can never be recovered or replaced are gone forever. A single act of burglary can devastate a family as what they have long labored for is snatched out from under them, and reverberate throughout the years.

Repeated acts are even worse - for the insurance rates skyrocket, and the ordeal of reports and paperwork and replacement gets harder and harder. Bit by bit everything is eroded away until there is nothing left. They kill people with their thefts slowly, chipping away at lives and livelihoods. In a myriad of small ways they hasten the deaths of their victims, like the parasites they are. Assuming they stick only to property theft.

For the thieves are only emboldened with every theft, every crime, as the law fails to snare them. They steal more often, more boldly, until eventually they graduate to the theft of life or dignity. Whether it happens with forethought, as they creep into a girl's bedroom for trinkets and rape, or as a consequence of their carelessness when caught by an early-returning homeowner, they will eventually act with direct violence.

"Why would anyone be willing to shoot someone over a TV?!?" fucking retards cry, never admitting that the thief was ready to commit murder from the start.
 
I didn't follow every detail of the case, but the proof that the judge had it in for the McMichaels and the trial was unfair is that he whacked both father and son with sentences of life without parole, even though the father (Greg) never even fired a shot and was only found culpable because he helped in the chase. There are plenty of people who commit intentional, planned, premeditated murders who are out in 10 to 15 years. No one of the three intended for anyone to be hurt, let alone killed, and it was only in a life-or-death struggle for the gun that our jogger got shot. So even if the McMichaels were retards, as some here are arguing, such an uncompromisingly harsh sentence is completely unjustified. This sentence convinces me the judge was an ideologue on a mission, and thus the trial verdict is unreliable and not proof of guilt. For example, the claims about evidence being wrongly excluded are plausible.

Also remember the media version is that three rednecks saw an innocent black jogger, and decided it would be fun to go a-nigger-huntin' and gunned down Arbery for sport. There was a torrent of news stories about how black joggers are now living in fear, because of this one-of-a-kind incident, The judge was presumably going along with these cultural winds.

The federal trial has similar defects, where they got absurd additional sentences on the grounds that Arbery was targeted for his race. No, he was pursued because he was acting like a burglar.

This doesn't mean the McMichaels and Bryan conducted themselves perfectly, but they deserved a fair trial like everyone. The sentences are excessive even if they're guilty of something, and were imposed only because they were white and AA was black.
 
I don't need to. It's called long-term thinking. That time, Travis was the one getting assaulted and then imprisoned for life. Next time it could be you, or it could be me. That's the problem when 'justice' systems protect criminals and penalize law-abiding citizens rather than doing the opposite. Obeying the law no longer protects you, anybody could be next on the chopping block
Congratulations, you've just talked yourself into forming an inner city gang. Here's your primary color bandana, a soundcloud account to whine about the system on, and your nigger card. Be proud, you've earned them.
They had guns in case the violent criminal in their neighborhood decided to make the situation violent, which he did.
No they had guns because they wanted to play cops and robbers over a case of petty theft. Petty theft of property that wasn't even theirs. Then they jumped into their car, patroled the area until they found someone (remember they didnt even know it was arbery at the time), then jumped out with those guns to initiate a confrontation. It's truly marvelous how every step of their plan invalidated a self defense plea. Almost like it was all on purpose.
Property thieves deserve death. Don't try to give me some bullshit about how theft doesn't hurt anyone, that insurance will cover it all! So stealing is hunky-dory, A-OK, and that only a bloodthirsty barbarian would ever dream of shooting a thief! Its horseshit.

Blah blah blah autistic whinging and grandstanding

"Why would anyone be willing to shoot someone over a TV?!?" fucking retards cry, never admitting that the thief was ready to commit murder from the start.
If someone steals a TV from walmart and you get into a knife fight over it in the parking lot, with the walmart manager screaming in the background for you to stop, you are not some great defender of western civilization. You are a retarded nigger and society would only benefit if you just dropped dead. That's what happend here. There is no grand moral message hidden away for terminally online internet scholars to decipher. You're just seething at what anyone without brain damage could understand is just another case of southern hicks shooting each other over pennies, same as always.
 
anyone without brain damage could understand

Oh, I realize thats your problem. You're fucking retarded. It explains why you think that niggers should just be allowed to do whatever they want. Or why you think that society should just collapse into anarchy. It'd be hilarious if you weren't eligible for jury duty.

How are you missing the fact that the State and their agents, the police, abdicated their duties in this instance? Or that, without anyone or anything enforcing some kind of order, there is total chaos and anarchy? The entire point of a system of government and institutions like the police is to make the ad hoc actions of citizenry to secure peaceful order unnecessary by doing it efficiently. When the State refuses to assume that duty, as they did in this case, the burden falls back on the citizens to safeguard their own safety. The State had no right to criticize the citizens for how they handled the situation the Sate refused to address.

society would only benefit

From what? Violent criminal who disturb the public order being unleashed onto innocent neighborhoods of productive citizens? From the agents of the state refusing to enforce law and order until the chaos spirals out of control and citizens are forced to act? You don't know the first thing about what makes society work, or from what it benefits.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
The imbeciles clearly fucked around and found out in their genius plan of playing cop, I'm not awash in sympathy. The instructor of the class for my carry license was crystal clear that if the cops found me standing over a corpse with a smoking gun in my hand, I had better be able to prove that I had been backed into a corner by a crazed murderer. "Gee golly I drove around town searching this guy out and jumped out my truck to snag him and then he grabbed my gun so I had to kill him." is not the compelling self-defense claim they clearly expected it to be. That said, the sentencing they received was excessive by orders of magnitude. There've been articles posted here with niggers catching literally zero jail time over more pre-meditated murders than this, actual murders and not the manslaughter these yokels should've been charged with.
 
It absolutely matters if you go out seeking a confrontation. Which they did, considering they brought guns.
This has to be bait. There is no way you are sincerely trying to argue that, in effect, only murderers or those seeking to become murderers carry guns. Next you'll tell me that akshyually, Kyle Rittenhouse was a murderer because he had a gun, and he even CHOSE to have it! Clearly seeking a confrontation!

This is on the same level of intellectual fortitude as claiming that actually, police officers are masochists intending to get shot because they go around wearing body armor.

Thank you for saving everyone reading the time it would take to try to decipher your retarded opinions about how the solution to anarcho-tyranny is to just obey harder by placing your straightforwardly-retarded bait about guns at the start of your post.
 
Then they jumped into their car, patroled the area until they found someone (remember they didnt even know it was arbery at the time), then jumped out with those guns to initiate a confrontation.
This has to be bait. There is no way you are sincerely trying to argue that, in effect, only murderers or those seeking to become murderers carry guns. Next you'll tell me that akshyually, Kyle Rittenhouse was a murderer because he had a gun, and he even CHOSE to have it! Clearly seeking a confrontation!
Yes that is exactly what he is arguing. That's what this whole 'muh braandeesshiiing' argument comes down to. Glownigger shills made the exact same argument with Rittenhouse and in both cases it was fucking retarded. No, having/holding a gun by itself isn't an act of aggression and it definitely doesn't justify assaulting people over it. I don't know where people get this idea that holding a gun = people just get to murder you and if you fight back, you're the one that goes to prison. It was retarded with Rittenhouse, it is retarded here and it will remain retarded in future cases.

If holding a weapon means you can't defend yourself, then self-defense de-facto doesn't exist.
>you're supposed to not fetch your weapon until you are already being assaulted
That might be an appropriate argument when talking to the Flash or Superman but this is real life, super speed isn't a thing. If you're not already holding (yes that means brandishing) your weapon at the time of the attack, it's too late and you're just going to die.
 
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