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Should be a wild four years.

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While England remains cucked at the mercy of their government, free speech hampered, and even knives forcibly removed - America experiences a revolution once again.
Happy 1776!
 
Glory to the United States of America.



Some quotes from George Washington for the occasion:
Unhappy it is though to reflect, that a Brother's Sword has been sheathed in a Brother's breast, and that, the once happy and peaceful plains of America are either to be drenched with Blood, or Inhabited by Slaves. Sad alternative! But can a virtuous Man hesitate in his choice?
Every post is honorable in which a man can serve his country.
" The time is now near at hand which must probably determine whether Americans are to be freemen or slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their houses and farms are to be pillaged and destroyed, and themselves consigned to a state of wretchedness from which no human efforts will deliver them. The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage and conduct of this army. Our cruel and unrelenting enemy leaves us only the choice of brave resistance, or the most abject submission. We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die. "
If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known that we are at all times ready for war
 
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Trump is only doing so well right now because he’s using the system exactly as it is currently written. If he undoes the term limits, we’d get situations like FDR the moment a Democrat gets back in office. Don’t forget, Obama was bitching about how he could have won a third term as he was walking out of the White House when Trump won in 2016.
It depends on how you do it.
If the law is changed in the way a few Republicans have proposed, in that you're only barred from seeking more terms after two consecutive ones, I actually can't see it backfiring.
It would bar Obama from getting the chance to run again, and the only situation where somebody would even be able to take advantage of it would be rare ones like Trump's. Neither party would be stupid enough to intentionally give up Incumbent Advantage in the General Election to get the same guy more terms.

That said, I'm still not fond of the idea of Trump having a 3rd Term purely because I think he'll be far too old to be trusted with the job. I'm just explaining how a 3rd Term could happen without giving Obama any funny ideas.
 
Its widely believed by historians this helped shortened the conflict my may years and stopping it becoming the first proto world war much like the Crimean War
That's...not entirely accurate. Russia's diplomatic support definitely was a point against the UK and France getting involved in the conflict, but both of them had their own reasons for not doing so that weighed very strongly against the idea. The UK was opposed to the Confederacies embrace of chattal slavery, and were deeply concerned of the possibility the war could still not be won and put British North America (Canada) in jeopardy.

The French for their part were mucking around in Mexico, and even that was proving a headache. Russia viewed the situation in more broad stroke terms of wanting to shit in the Brit's cheerios by backing what at the time was one of Britain's most dangerous geo-strategic rivals. The UK and the USA prior to the civil war almost ended up in conflicts over a variety of different issues. Russia, who at the time was locked in a hegemonic contest with the UK saw the USA as a potential ally. But this alliance would be for fighting Britain, not the Confederacy. Russia's naval presence was a show of force, showing the Brits they had the capability to deploy militarily to the Western Hemisphere, but beyond that their presence was ceremonial and Russia never engaged in any of the hostilities.
 
When George Washington fought in the French and Indian War, during the Battle of Monongahela, Washington miraculously survived without a wound- his horse was shot out from under him, and multiple bullets passed through his jacket, but Washington was untouched. Seeing this, the Indian Chieftain there prophesied that “he [George Washington] will become the chief of nations, and a people yet unborn, will hail him as the father of a mighty empire!”
 
If they were complicit or actively involved in the fraud/moneystealing operation, why wouldn't those people be at the top of the pile to get rehired or weaseled in as a "contractor" or something? Those people would be the first to be rehired by a Democratic Administration.
If they were that corrupt why wouldn't they be in the private sector foing something similar? Buddy, you don't seem to understand how long 4 years is and how many people are being fired. This is also assuming all the apparatus that they had before like usaid remain intact and unchanged which is looking like it's not going to happen. This took decades of having systems in the right place inte tionally or unintentionally and putting all the toys back together after they're smashed isn't going to happen. They might be able to glue the heads back on but those institutions are fundamentally changed forever and it's never going to work the same. They're going to need new schemes
 
It depends on how you do it.
If the law is changed in the way a few Republicans have proposed, in that you're only barred from seeking more terms after two consecutive ones, I actually can't see it backfiring.
It would bar Obama from getting the chance to run again, and the only situation where somebody would even be able to take advantage of it would be rare ones like Trump's. Neither party would be stupid enough to intentionally give up Incumbent Advantage in the General Election to get the same guy more terms.

That said, I'm still not fond of the idea of Trump having a 3rd Term purely because I think he'll be far too old to be trusted with the job. I'm just explaining how a 3rd Term could happen without giving Obama any funny ideas.
So in this interpretation theoretically you could just not seeking reelection after you finish your term, come back in 4 years, win again, serve your second term then repeat the process till your dead. This sounds like a nightmare if the democrats can squeeze out another Obama tier politician.
 
Suicide is painless It brings on many changes and I can take or leave it if I please, and you can do the same thing if you please
 

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When George Washington fought in the French and Indian War, during the Battle of Monongahela, Washington miraculously survived without a wound- his horse was shot out from under him, and multiple bullets passed through his jacket, but Washington was untouched. Seeing this, the Indian Chieftain there prophesied that “he [George Washington] will become the chief of nations, and a people yet unborn, will hail him as the father of a mighty empire!”
Another insane stroke of fortune Washington had was at the Battle of Long Island where the Brits were pushing his shit in. They literally had the entire continental army hoisted by their underwear on a fucking Island under the guns of the Royal Navy. When out of nowhere the entire theater was blanketed in fog, which was so thick the warships could not track targets, and the British artillery couldn't either. It allowed the Continental Army to sneak across the east river and escape.

Its really hard to not see the hand of Heaven at times in Washington's life. The man had more luck then a leprechaun. Anyone playing those map games knows the feel. Howe had him dead to rights and yet somehow he managed to roll natural 20's 5 battle turns in a row and left Howe screaming angrily at his map and pounding the desk.
 
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Some more presidential actions.

Memo about spending:

Radical Transparency About Wasteful Spending​

February 18, 2025
MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES

SUBJECT: Radical Transparency About Wasteful Spending

The United States Government spends too much money on programs, contracts, and grants that do not promote the interests of the American people. For too long, taxpayers have subsidized ideological projects overseas and domestic organizations engaged in actions that undermine the national interest. The American people have seen their tax dollars used to fund the passion projects of unelected bureaucrats rather than to advance the national interest. The American people have a right to see how the Federal Government has wasted their hard-earned wages.

I therefore direct the heads of executive departments and agencies (agencies) to take all appropriate actions to make public, to the maximum extent permitted by law and as the heads of agencies deem appropriate to promote the policies of my Administration, the complete details of every terminated program, cancelled contract, terminated grant, or any other discontinued obligation of Federal funds. Agencies shall ensure that such publication occurs in accordance with all applicable laws, regulations, and the terms and conditions of the underlying contract, grant, or other award.
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Asserting control over "independent" agencies:

Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies​

EXECUTIVE ORDER
February 18, 2025

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: 

Section 1. Policy and Purpose. The Constitution vests all executive power in the President and charges him with faithfully executing the laws. Since it would be impossible for the President to single-handedly perform all the executive business of the Federal Government, the Constitution also provides for subordinate officers to assist the President in his executive duties. In the exercise of their often-considerable authority, these executive branch officials remain subject to the President’s ongoing supervision and control. The President in turn is regularly elected by and accountable to the American people. This is one of the structural safeguards, along with the separation of powers between the executive and legislative branches, regular elections for the Congress, and an independent judiciary whose judges are appointed by the President by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, by which the Framers created a Government accountable to the American people.  

However, previous administrations have allowed so-called “independent regulatory agencies” to operate with minimal Presidential supervision. These regulatory agencies currently exercise substantial executive authority without sufficient accountability to the President, and through him, to the American people. Moreover, these regulatory agencies have been permitted to promulgate significant regulations without review by the President. 

These practices undermine such regulatory agencies’ accountability to the American people and prevent a unified and coherent execution of Federal law. For the Federal Government to be truly accountable to the American people, officials who wield vast executive power must be supervised and controlled by the people’s elected President.  

Therefore, in order to improve the administration of the executive branch and to increase regulatory officials’ accountability to the American people, it shall be the policy of the executive branch to ensure Presidential supervision and control of the entire executive branch. Moreover, all executive departments and agencies, including so-called independent agencies, shall submit for review all proposed and final significant regulatory actions to the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) within the Executive Office of the President before publication in the Federal Register.

Sec. 2. Definitions. For the purposes of this order:

(a) The term “employees” shall have the meaning given that term in section 2105 of title 5, United States Code.  

(b) The term “independent regulatory agency” shall have the meaning given that term in section 3502(5) of title 44, United States Code. This order shall not apply to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System or to the Federal Open Market Committee in its conduct of monetary policy. This order shall apply to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System only in connection with its conduct and authorities directly related to its supervision and regulation of financial institutions. 

(c) The term “independent regulatory agency chairman” shall mean, with regard to a multi-member independent regulatory agency, the chairman of such agency, and shall mean, with regard to a single-headed independent regulatory agency, such agency’s chairman, director, or other presiding officer.   

(d) The term “head” of an independent regulatory agency shall mean those appointed to supervise independent regulatory agencies and in whom the agencies’ authorities are generally vested, encompassing the chairman, director, or other presiding officer, and, as applicable, other members, commissioners, or similar such officials with responsibility for supervising such agencies.  

Sec. 3. OIRA Review of Agency Regulations. (a) Section 3(b) of Executive Order 12866 of September 30, 1993 (“Regulatory Planning and Review”), as amended, is hereby amended to read as follows:  

“(b) “Agency,” unless otherwise indicated, means any authority of the United States that is an “agency” under 44 U.S.C. 3502(1), and shall also include the Federal Election Commission. This order shall not apply to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System or to the Federal Open Market Committee in its conduct of monetary policy. This order shall apply to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System only in connection with its conduct and authorities directly related to its supervision and regulation of financial institutions.”.

(b) The Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) shall provide guidance on implementation of this order to the heads of executive departments and agencies newly submitting regulatory actions under section 3(b) of Executive Order 12866. Agency submissions by independent regulatory agencies under such section shall commence within the earlier of 60 days from the date of this order, or completion of such implementation guidance.

Sec. 4. Performance Standards and Management Objectives. The Director of OMB shall establish performance standards and management objectives for independent agency heads, as appropriate and consistent with applicable law, and report periodically to the President on their performance and efficiency in attaining such standards and objectives.

Sec. 5. Apportionments for Independent Regulatory Agencies. The Director of OMB shall, on an ongoing basis:  

(a) review independent regulatory agencies’ obligations for consistency with the President’s policies and priorities; and  

(b) consult with independent regulatory agency chairmen and adjust such agencies’ apportionments by activity, function, project, or object, as necessary and appropriate, to advance the President’s policies and priorities. Such adjustments to apportionments may prohibit independent regulatory agencies from expending appropriations on particular activities, functions, projects, or objects, so long as such restrictions are consistent with law.

Sec. 6. Additional Consultation with the Executive Office of the President. (a) Subject to subsection (b), independent regulatory agency chairmen shall regularly consult with and coordinate policies and priorities with the directors of OMB, the White House Domestic Policy Council, and the White House National Economic Council.

(b) The heads of independent regulatory agencies shall establish a position of White House Liaison in their respective agencies. Such position shall be in grade 15 of the General Schedule and shall be placed in Schedule C of the excepted service.

(c) Independent regulatory agency chairmen shall submit agency strategic plans developed pursuant to the Government Performance and Results Act of 1993 to the Director of OMB for clearance prior to finalization.

Sec. 7. Rules of Conduct Guiding Federal Employees’ Interpretation of the Law. The President and the Attorney General, subject to the President’s supervision and control, shall provide authoritative interpretations of law for the executive branch. The President and the Attorney General’s opinions on questions of law are controlling on all employees in the conduct of their official duties. No employee of the executive branch acting in their official capacity may advance an interpretation of the law as the position of the United States that contravenes the President or the Attorney General’s opinion on a matter of law, including but not limited to the issuance of regulations, guidance, and positions advanced in litigation, unless authorized to do so by the President or in writing by the Attorney General.

Sec. 8. General Provisions. (a) If any provision of this order, or the application of any provision to any person or circumstance, is held to be invalid, the remainder of this order and the application of its provisions to any other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby. 

(b) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: 

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department, agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals. 

(c) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. 

(d) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person. 
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Some quotes from George Washington for the occasion:
Gonna keep autistically posting this song, but it is in my view THE patriotic song from our history that captures the moment.


And do you know what is infuriating? The ONLY version of this song that I can embed due to copyright reasons is the one sung in Japanese by AI. The paranoid part of my brain thinks this is deliberate. Battle Cry of Freedom is about as subtle as a nine pound hammer about its point. It is utterly uncompromising, and probably makes people less then loyal to their country very nervous.


The second to last verse hits hard.
We will welcome to our numbers the loyal, true and brave,
Shouting the battle cry of freedom!
And although he may be poor, he shall never be a slave,

Shouting the battle cry of freedom!
 
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But how is that working out for us right now? It's an indication of frustration that people just want to see it crushed with a celestial anvil, hoping that the chaos would somehow lessen the jeet tsunami.

BTW, what's going on with jobs? It seems like there are NO good options for white people.
it works out fine as long as we dont import the rapey fuckers en masse
 
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