Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[DavidS877]

I love it.... No, it is you stalker child who has violated the SPO, enjoy sanctions.

Greer received the SPO from the court using small words, presumably read it and STILL doesn't understand what it says. And the court has already said "LOL, No, It wasn't violated."

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

Isn't "You violated the SPO" yet another materially false statement that he also needs gaping for?

 

[Vect]

Uuuggggghhhh.

He's going to keep this going until everyone dies of old age.

All this is supposed to be over a COPYRIGHT DISPUTE.

 

[DavidS877]

Uuuggggghhhh.

He's going to keep this going until everyone dies of old age.

All this over a COPYRIGHT DISPUTE.

He only used the copyright angle to get it into Federal court with all his other KF sperging. Now that has all been tossed it's all he has left.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Isn't "You violated the SPO" yet another materially false statement that he also needs gaping for?

He is allowed to think that.

 

[obsdj]

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Okay but in all seriousness: What happens if he doesn't file his required response to the fees and costs within seven days, or what could happen (in addition to the Magistrate finalizing the amount Greer owes)?

And, sing it with me if you know the words, where the hell is the damn District Judge with his ruling on the idiot's damn stupid objection?

 

[East_Clintwood]

GREER IS DEFYING COURT ORDER

Based. SovCit Greer arc here we come.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

He is allowed to think that.

Thinking is one thing. Repeatedly putting it on the record as a statement of fact is another.

I'll defer to your 'Merican legal expertise on this.

Ah well, he's got another invoice coming soon anyway.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

5k seems like exactly the right amount to me. At his normal rates it would be into 5 figures and way more likely to attract pity.

5k is an amount that even a pretty poor working person can scrape together, especially with a payment plan.

5k is also more than greer ever would have earned from his copyrights in the mind of any reasonable person (i.e. not his own)

but it's gonna be a lot higher the way this is going. When you start to appeal the fees, you had better fucking win. Courts do not like this one neat trick.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

Part of me loves Greer, he seems committed to continually make the worse decision possible. Is PayHardin.lol available?

Sent from my iPhone

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

Is PayHardin.lol available?

https://paynull.lol/ is already in operation, thanks to @davids877.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

What happens if he doesn't file his required response to the fees and costs within seven days

https://www.utd.uscourts.gov/sites/utd/files/Dec%202021%20Civil%20Rules.pdf

or what could happen (in addition to the Magistrate finalizing the amount Greer owes)?

The judge has discretion to increase the amount, if we are feeling optimistic. See, generally:

Indeed. The judge has discretion to play around with the numbers a bit; he can increase or decrease the number from what Mr. Hardin asked. See, broadly, ARUP Labs. v. Pac. Med. Lab., 2:20-cv-00186 (D. Utah Aug. 25, 2023) (also Stella v. Davis Cnty., 1:18-cv-00002-JNP (D. Utah Aug. 18, 2023))

Now, good friends, what is it that the 10th Circuit has instructed the lower courts to be a reason enough to increase the attorney fees? Well, one of the accepted reasons is whether or not the plaintiff "was confronted with a real risk of not prevailing." To be clear, this is not a hindsight review, but one based from the facts and law as it were when the suit was filed. Whether any facts at the core of the case were disputed (oh, say for example, whether the book ever was on KF) is also a factor in considering. Though, this is something Mr. Hardin would have to make an issue of. See, broadly, Homeward Bound v. Hissom Memorial Center, 963 F.2d 1352 (10th Cir. 1992)

Generally, Lodestar method is used (i.e multiplication of a reasonable hourly rate by a reasonable number of hours expended.) On a first-foot basis, "reasonable hourly rate" would be whatever Mr. Hardin usually charges, provided it is not in conflict with with rates provided by lawyers of reasonably comparable skill, experience, and reputation for similar services. See, for example, Hollaar v. Marketpro S., 2:22-cv-559-TS (D. Utah Aug. 28, 2024). Reasonable number of hours is a lot less easily defined, but if it's not something obviously absurd (for example in Vic Mignogna case the lawyer for Funimation charged the company many hours to find out if calling someone a pedophile and a rapist is defamatory per se when any and all caselaw on the issue clearly stated that it was. Those number of hours were found unreasonable, if memory serves) it will probably stick (though I make no guarantees)

Thinking is one thing. Repeatedly putting it on the record as a statement of fact is another.

He is allowed to say it both to Mr. Hardin and to the court. If he feels that Mr. Hardin violated the spirit and not the letter of the order, he is very well entitled to argue that, even if the Judge disagrees.

 

[Swole McPole]

Update Paynull.lol

If there was ever the equivalent for a Nobel Prize for lawyers, Hardin's name would be first in my list of nominees. Was there ever a more erudite and principled lawyer practicing in the USA? If there is, I'm certainly not aware of them.

This motion went some way to restoring my faith in humanity.

 

[Catgirls are Love]

Yes Greer, continue to fuck about after the Judge has ordered you to pay attorney's fees for previously fucking about. I'm absolutely certain that this will have absolutely zero negative consequences whatsoever.

 

[Sexy Potoo]

How much of shitlip's monthly tugboat can Hardin collect?

 

[SpellforceFan]

I'm absolutely certain that this will have absolutely zero negative consequences whatsoever.

So far the entire judicial system has gone out of their way to please (or at this point explicitly fellate) the retarded mong and all of his bullshit claims, for YEARS. Why would they suddenly change the tune?

 

[ForTheHoard]

5k is also more than greer ever would have earned from his copyrights in the mind of any reasonable person (i.e. not his own)

but it's gonna be a lot higher the way this is going. When you start to appeal the fees, you had better fucking win. Courts do not like this one neat trick.

That's going to be the next pity arc/publishing deal. He's going to try to recoup costs by writing a new book about how he sued his cyberbullies but the justice system is corrupt and biased against the disabled. He can dedicate it to the memory of Steve.

 

[ConSluttant]

5k is also more than greer ever would have earned from his copyrights in the mind of any reasonable person (i.e. not his own)

but it's gonna be a lot higher the way this is going. When you start to appeal the fees, you had better fucking win. Courts do not like this one neat trick.

Time to start a poll: How much is Russ gonna owe Dear Feeder by the end of this:

• ~ $5k
• ~ $10k
• ~ $15k
• ~ $20k
• ~ $25k
• An ice cream date at Cold Stone (footsie playing optional)

 

[The Stranger]

Time to start a poll: How much is Russ gonna owe Dear Feeder by the end of this:

• $5k
• $10k
• $15k
• $20k
• $25k
• An ice cream date at Cold Stone (footsie playing optional)

You forgot $0

 

[AnOminous]

BOOM!

As I thought, Hardin came in with a pretty modest amount that by no means even reaches much less exceeds the amount of effort that went into this. If the judge reduces this by as much as a dime he's still playing tard guard, imo.

I'll also note his Supplemental Declaration contains a detailed explanation of what the fees and costs were for, as well as an invoice detailing each line item with specificity, most of them for less than an hour, with no sloppy "block billing" that can result in a lowering of the award.