State of Texas v. Riley Dalton Mix (a.k.a. Youngclippa)

[he who has thus come/gone]

Is this a valid legal strategy meant to convince the judge alone, or a possible tack for trial? Whinging about the 'black comic man who traced a table' does not seem a winning argument for the average jurist....

If it's used for a permissible purpose, this type of evidence is admissible in Texas. It seems that evidence of criminal acts can be used under Texas Rule of Evidence 404(b) for certain permissible purposes:

(b) Crimes, Wrongs, or Other Acts.
(1) Prohibited Uses. Evidence of a crime, wrong, or other act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character.
(2) Permitted Uses; Notice in Criminal Case. This evidence may be admissible for another purpose, such as proving motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, absence of mistake, or lack of accident. On timely request by a defendant in a criminal case, the prosecutor must provide reasonable notice before trial that the prosecution intends to introduce such evidence—other than that arising in the same transaction—in its case-in-chief.

Rule 404(a)(3)(A) may also be relevant:

In a criminal case, subject to the limitations in Rule 412 [Evidence of Previous Sexual Conduct in Criminal Cases], a defendant may offer evidence of a victim’s pertinent trait, and if the evidence is admitted, the prosecutor may offer evidence to rebut it

So the strategy may be to try and offer evidence of prior criminal activity to show something like a common plan or an intent to invite people to physically confront Eric. It may also be to offer evidence of a character trait of confronting people in real life that Eric has problems with, to show that Riley was just following through or something. Seems somewhat of a stretch, but a competent lawyer could make a passable argument depending on what evidence is available. If the argument is just "Eric was a gangbanger 20 years ago so he's a bad guy who was asking for it" then it's probably not gonna work. And a jury could nevertheless be shown the batshit crazy videos of Riley saying he's going to create such a scene around Eric that Eric will be forced to shoot him dead, so ultimately it might come down to guy who played up being a bad urban youth 20 years ago but is now a married Christian industrialist and successful employer vs. crazy smelly homeless looking creep who dragged a seemingly sex trafficked autistic girl to a place of business multiple times over months even after being told to stay away.

I am not a criminal defense attorney, though, so you'd have to ask someone like @Potentially Criminal whether it's a viable strategy (though, again, it probably depends on what evidence is actually out there). And even if it is, it's not like Eric July loses anything. It's just Riley and Juju losing money in order to brag to a dwindling audience watching the Biggest Pedophile in the Universe.

 

[Himedall All-seeing Waifu]

If the argument is just "Eric was a gangbanger 20 years ago so he's a bad guy who was asking for it" then it's probably not gonna work

This is what I believe. A lot of those articles detailing his CrImInAl past are in the vein of 'against all odds, former banger July makes good and gives back to community'.

The whole premise of the interview is that he is someone who changed and is now a productive member of society.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

This is what I believe. A lot of those articles detailing his CrImInAl past are in the vein of 'against all odds, former banger July makes good and gives back to community'.

The whole premise of the interview is that he is someone who changed and is now a productive member of society.

I don't think he will get very far with that narrative though.
Not only has he grifted a hefty amount of money for a comic that might never be actually created, he also plays a internet tough guy persona that seems to match what he used to do as a gang member, i.e. inviting people to fight him, settle it like men etc.

No matter what, the behavior was still a crime and Riley will get convicted, but he will get away with a slap on the wrist. I would not be surprised if they would settle out of court, with reduced charges and a very lengthy probation + TRO against Riley.

I do not think Eric July makes for a sympathetic victim.

 

[Himedall All-seeing Waifu]

KIWIS! IT IS SO OVWR!

Texas issued a subpoena for ERIC JULY! HE WILL BE BELD TO ACCOUNT FOR HIS CRIMES!

These are the most recent drop of documents. I have not reviewed beyond a cursory look.

 

[Fleetwood]

Reviewed all these documents, 4 of them are subpoenas for Eric and the Rippaverse employees to appear and testify for the state of texas. There is also one reciept of a document already served (Brandon Taylor). These pages below are interesting ones because all the police are named, all the state's expert witnesses at the DA's office, and the civilians besides the 4 rippaverse guys includes a name I'm unfamiliar with Jasmine Tolson. The 911 custodian of records is named also, that would be great if we get recordings of the 911 calls.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

What do you think is the worst think the defense could ask them on the stand that is relevant to the case?

 

[Himedall All-seeing Waifu]

What do you think is the worst think the defense could ask them on the stand that is relevant to the case?

Do you, or do you not consider arm shaving to be an imminent threat?

 

[Obnoxious Asshole]

We can only hope Texas institutes the death penalty for Riley.

 

[MaltVinegarRespecter]

We can only hope Texas institutes the death penalty for Riley.

Or at least castration.

 

[TurboNAS]

What do you think is the worst think the defense could ask them on the stand that is relevant to the case?

What’s your favorite scene in Isom?

 

[Potentially Criminal]

I am not a criminal defense attorney, though, so you'd have to ask someone like @Potentially Criminal whether it's a viable strategy (though, again, it probably depends on what evidence is actually out there). And even if it is, it's not like Eric July loses anything. It's just Riley and Juju losing money in order to brag to a dwindling audience watching the Biggest Pedophile in the Universe.

Part of it makes sense to me.

Crimes involving dishonesty, moral terpitude, deception, and those in a similar vein to theft would be entirely relevant for Riley to have. Those could be used to show that that Eric July is dishonest and not therefore not trustworthy. Making his claims that he fears for the safety of himself to be bullshit.

Asking for his juvenile judications isn’t probably gonna get anywhere because (1) they're not convictions and (2) Eric is well into his 40s by now, and those wouldn't be very relevent unless there's something his attorney knows about Eric July (or there is a weird quirk about Texas law that I dont know about). If Eric was 18 or 19, that might make a bit more sense, but even then, I highly doubt you would get those records.

In regards to his Texas gang database stuff, I don't know if that's meant to do anything other than embarrass/harass Eric because I kind of get the feeling he probably doesn't have entires in the database or police intellgence files. Eric may have talked himself up about his prior getting affiliations, instead of actually being a hard scrabble street nigga.

If it's used for a permissible purpose, this type of evidence is admissible in Texas. It seems that evidence of criminal acts can be used under Texas Rule of Evidence 404(b) for certain permissible purposes:

404(b) is really only for Defendnants. That's the only person we're concerned about being subject propensity evidence (to show that a person acted in a certain way on a specific occasion based on their character or other information).



Could Riley's attorney be doing all of this in the hopes of making Eric July look like the bad guy? Sure. Giving the jury someone else to hate is a viable strategy.

 

[Potentially Criminal]

Also, does anyone have the clip of Riley going up to Eric warehouse and taping on the money?

 

[Balldo's Gate]

Could Riley's attorney be doing all of this in the hopes of making Eric July look like the bad guy? Sure. Giving the jury someone else to hate is a viable strategy.

I mean I think the problem is that Eric July leaned into playing the tough guy with the "pull up" shit and talking about how he wasn't afraid of Riley. He should have come out and plainly said he doesn't want these smelly addicts who piss on each other for their paying fans to watch bothering his paying customers.

He at least puts out his comic books on time but the idea he played this perfectly is wrong.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Also, does anyone have the clip of Riley going up to Eric warehouse and taping on the money?

The videos were on his account (https://x.com/CYouNextTime) which is now suspended. Here you can see a screenshot showing that: https://x.com/dickmasterson/status/1706911318186545452. This was one of the posts: https://x.com/CYouNextTime/status/1706893497100316919

The Kino Casino segment has the videos with their commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyot67osPLg

Unless the videos themselves were archived from Riley's Twitter account, I think they may be lost. They may be archived in Nick's thread or Juju's thread.

 

[Potentially Criminal]

The other thing I didn't get to address is another issue that Riley has in his favor: this is gay internet shit (because the internet is gay).

Regardless of which law is broken, having Eric explain how all this started "well it started on the internet..." and there's a good chance jurors' eyes gloss over.

I've said before that "well it started on the internet..." isn't something most normies give a fuck about.

 

[AnOminous]

Making his claims that he fears for the safety of himself to be bullshit.

Has he even really ever claimed he subjectively fears for his safety? So far as I can tell, that's not even an element of the offense. It's the conduct of the defendant that is at issue here. This fat, greasy weirdo was harassing EJ's customers, defacing EJ's properties, pissing on EJ's ancestor's grave, and all kinds of objectively weird behavior that is an offense against the state, not Eric July himself.

I believe it was actually the property owner, nor Eric July, who called the cops on him on the second arrest that ended up with him being arrested on the original arrest warrant. And it's unclear to me whether EJ himself was even aware of or concerned by Riley's behavior harassing people coming in and out of the event.

Did Eric July even appear in the video of this douche getting himself arrested? If so, I'm pretty sure it was AFTER the cops showed up.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

I've said before that "well it started on the internet..." isn't something most normies give a fuck about.

Depends on how it's framed. Why make Eric explain how this is an Internet-based drama when the state can force Riley to venture some theory of the case about pursuing gay Internet and 3d-assets-in-comics drama? Then it's Riley's narrative that normies won't give a fuck about.

Texas doesn't have to do anything but prove the elements of the crime against Riley—they don't have to offer a motivation or explanation at all beyond those elements. And if the jury instructions just direct the jury that "if you find that a, b, and c have occurred, then the defendant is guilty of the crime" then where does the Internet narrative come in at all—other than from Riley? Of course, juries can do whatever they want, but I think you're overblowing how sympathetic the jury will be to Riley.

In the end, Eric pretty clearly said "don't come to my business, this is retarded please stay away" and the police said "don't come to Eric's business, this is retarded please stay away." And then Riley came to Eric's business event anyways. It doesn't seem like they're overcharging Riley, who is a crazy, homeless looking out-of-stater who traveled to the jury's part of Texas for no good reason. Again, I don't know what the jury will ultimately decide because juries are inscrutable, but I don't know why you're starting with the most Riley-favorable presumptions.

 

[AnOminous]

Depends on how it's framed. Why make Eric explain how this is an Internet-based drama when the state can force Riley to venture some theory of the case about pursuing gay Internet and 3d-assets-in-comics drama? Then it's Riley's narrative that normies won't give a fuck about.

The state should probably argue it's just completely irrelevant anyway. This is not about Eric. Cases about trespassing while protesting (like the nuke protests where a lot of the case law is), involve the trial court outright refusing to allow any evidence whatsoever about why the trespassing was occurring.

The issue is quite simply where was the property line? On what side of the property line were you? Property lines are a thing. If you're on the wrong side of one, and you refuse to leave when told to do so, you are breaking the law. You could be doing it for Jesus. You could be doing it for Satan. You could be doing it to save the world from a nuclear catastrophe.

In the eyes of the law, it doesn't matter. You stay on your side of the property line or else.

There is no First Amendment right to intrude on someone's property and start saying whatever dumb shit you like. You stay at least an inch on the right side of it or you fuck off.

 

[MisterCH 86]

The other thing I didn't get to address is another issue that Riley has in his favor: this is gay internet shit (because the internet is gay).

Regardless of which law is broken, having Eric explain how all this started "well it started on the internet..." and there's a good chance jurors' eyes gloss over.

I've said before that "well it started on the internet..." isn't something most normies give a fuck about.

You sound like you WANT Riley to win. Regardless of how you look at it there's way too much evidence of Riley harassing this man to the point of obsession. Also Eric didn't lie about anything, if anything people lie about him. They misquote him, they misinterpret him, they put words in his mouth and sometimes they even lie about him saying he does something when he doesn't. I've been following this drama since it first started. Also it doesn't matter if Riley only went up to the warehouse and put money with bunny stickers on his door, he still shouldn't have been there, and he had no business going there especially going all the way from California just to harass the guy which he admitted to the police on body camera footage. Internet stuff is a lot more different than when you do it in real life.... THAT'S the truth.

The state should probably argue it's just completely irrelevant anyway. This is not about Eric. Cases about trespassing while protesting (like the nuke protests where a lot of the case law is), involve the trial court outright refusing to allow any evidence whatsoever about why the trespassing was occurring.

The issue is quite simply where was the property line? On what side of the property line were you? Property lines are a thing. If you're on the wrong side of one, and you refuse to leave when told to do so, you are breaking the law. You could be doing it for Jesus. You could be doing it for Satan. You could be doing it to save the world from a nuclear catastrophe.

In the eyes of the law, it doesn't matter. You stay on your side of the property line or else.

There is no First Amendment right to intrude on someone's property and start saying whatever dumb shit you like. You stay at least an inch on the right side of it or you fuck off.

I agree. The First amendment doesn't give you the right to trespass or harass somebody on their own property OR in real life, and honestly I'm getting tired of people bastardizing protests. In real life harassment it's not the same thing as harassing somebody on the computer. I hope Riley ends up going to jail, and from what I'm seeing it's not looking good for him.

I mean I think the problem is that Eric July leaned into playing the tough guy with the "pull up" shit and talking about how he wasn't afraid of Riley. He should have come out and plainly said he doesn't want these smelly addicts who piss on each other for their paying fans to watch bothering his paying customers.

He at least puts out his comic books on time but the idea he played this perfectly is wrong.

Again that was a misquote. He said if you want to talk to me pull up and talk to me, and that was BEFORE Riley did what he did. He was not being a tough guy and he was more afraid for his employees "as he admitted" also why should he have to say anything that's obvious? Nobody wants to be harassed in stalked in real life, all the jury has to do is look at the police body camera footage alone and it will be enough to make him look guilty.

 

[Fleetwood]

You sound like you WANT Riley to win. Regardless of how you look at it there's way too much evidence of Riley harassing this man to the point of obsession. Also Eric didn't lie about anything, if anything people lie about him. I've been following this drama since it first started. Also it doesn't matter if Riley only went up to the warehouse and put money with bunny stickers on his door, he still shouldn't have been there. Internet stuff is a lot more different than when you do it in real life.... THAT'S the truth.

He's an actual practicing lawyer trying to look at it realistically. We already know you want Eric to win from other posts.

As for just being the internet, doesn't it cross a line with actual threats in the eyes of the law? The Eric July guys have never dropped DMs but it's pretty likely Riley was sending them stuff like he did to Matt Bahr @robo6 "I'm going to rape you ."
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