EU US woman, 20, accidentally stabs Eritrean, 64, to death during struggle after he groped her at German train station - and now faces 10 years in prison

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An American woman accidentally stabbed an Eritrean to death during a struggle after he groped her at a German train station - and now faces up to ten years in prison.

The woman, 20, was standing on an escalator at Kaiserslautern train station, in the southwestern state of Rhineland-Palatinate, when the 64-year-old man grabbed her backside on June 29.

An argument ensued before the woman drew a folding knife and made stabbing movements at the man.

The American, who lives in Kaiserslautern, told investigators she wanted to keep the man at a distance. When he finally backed away, the woman followed.

The Eritrean man grabbed her arm holding the knife and as the woman tried to free herself, she stabbed him in the heart 'during the same movement', according to prosecutors. He died within seconds.

The woman has been charged with causing bodily harm resulting in death and could be sentenced to up to ten years in prison at youth court.

She claimed that she did not intentionally aim for the man's heart and argued that she acted in self defence to keep him at a distance.

'The public prosecutor's office does not believe that the stabbing was justified by self-defence,' a spokesperson for the prosecutor's office told German tabloid Bild.

Prosecutors believe that the woman didn't intentionally stab the Eritrean in his heart after viewing CCTV footage, which is why they haven't charged her with murder or manslaughter.

She allegedly wanted to injure the man, but not kill him.

Following the incident, a search was launched for the woman, who turned herself in at a police station.

The American has since been released. The youth court is due to decide whether to accept the charge against the woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ath-groped-station-faces-10-years-prison.html (Archive)
 
People keep quoting this to disprove the self-defense angle

But conveniently omit this detail. Why didn't the nigger just run away if he was so threatened?
First of all American self defense laws don’t apply to Germany.

If someone punches you or robs you and you shoot them, guess what: You’ll be charged with manslaughter.

Secondly the guy was leaving. She follows him. That’s where the self defense further breaks down.

Bitch is going to jail.

I don’t like niggers, but I sure as fuck don’t like American wahmen coming here and stabbing people.
 
First of all American self defense laws don’t apply to Germany.

If someone punches you or robs you and you shoot them, guess what: You’ll be charged with manslaughter.

Secondly the guy was leaving. She follows him. That’s where the self defense further breaks down.

Bitch is going to jail.

I don’t like niggers, but I sure as fuck don’t like American wahmen coming here and stabbing people.
Don't get me wrong, following the guy weakens her case by a lot, but the fact that the stab was still arguably provoked by her being grabbed by the guy sounds like a big mitigating factor. Maybe not enough to get her off the hook, but enough for me to not see her as some crazed killer who deserves everything coming to her.
 
Low iq Nigger rapefugee gropes white woman

Woman defends herself

Bunch of white cucks cry over the dead rapey nigger and say the woman deserves the ultimate punishment for what she did. Suddenly pretend to be huge fans of law and order. Despite defending (correctly imo) ppl like Daniel penny and otherwise seething about niggers and immigrants.

????????? But why
In Poland we have an idiom "Kali's morality" named after a nigger from a children's book who when asked what is evil, replied "Someone steal Kali's lolcow" and when asked what is good, replied "Kali steal someone's lolcow".
 
Don't get me wrong, following the guy weakens her case by a lot, but the fact that the stab was still arguably provoked by her being grabbed by the guy sounds like a big mitigating factor.
The thing is: He groped her, she draws a knife, he leaves. That’s the end of the encounter.

She follows him, possibly attacks him and he grabs her knife in self defense. That’s a separate encounter.

In the first she was the victim, in the second she was the aggressor.

That’s how I think the law, and the Judge, will see it.
Maybe not enough to get her off the hook, but enough for me to not see her as some crazed killer who deserves everything coming to her.
Meh, first of all it’s Germany. German sentences are shorter than American. The max she faces is ten years, she will probably get five or eight.

German jails are also basically ahitty hotels. You get your own room, where you can have a PlayStation or TV, you get furloughs on weekends. It’s like a shitty taxpayer funded holiday.
 
What is and isn't sexual assault really boils down to how the receiving party takes it.
Someone should edit the bottom panel so the man's a shitskin and she's stabbing him in the heart.

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People keep quoting this to disprove the self-defense angle

But conveniently omit this detail. Why didn't the nigger just run away if he was so threatened?
Omit that detail? The detail where he tries to stop her from stabbing him to death after pursuing him? Yeah, you're right, that should not be omitted.

And I can't imagine why a 64 year old couldn't get away from a 20 year old, it's a real mystery tbh. I think you're onto something there.
 
i can't tell if trolling or retarded on both sides of the aisle right now
both parties in this article are retarded in their own ways
the nigger for being a nigger and the woman for thinking she can nonlethally stab the nigger in self-defense after he walked away
She'd just been sexually assaulted and likely wasn't thinking with 100% clarity. Maybe if she'd had time to nip home for a cup of tea before pulling the knife out she'd have taken a different path.

The law isn't working correctly if the woman in this instance doesn't have the complete right to put the threat down with lethal force. She shouldn't have been put into a situation of having to weigh up the pros and cons between fight or flight while trying to take a train in an apparently civilised country.
 
And I can't imagine why a 64 year old couldn't get away from a 20 year old, it's a real mystery tbh. I think you're onto something there.
If I were strong enough to grab her arm firmly enough to make her struggle to break free, wouldn't I also be strong enough to just get the hell away from this lady who's pointing a knife at me?

edit: to be fair, maybe he was cornered and he had no choice but to grab her to protect himself, and you can definitely argue that he wasn't strong enough to stop her from stabbing him. I can't say for sure what actually happened because I haven't seen the video.
 
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Civil law is gay. Without seeing video hard to know what’s going on. But sounds like an extreme reaction so he must have been groping in a bad area.
The article said he was backing away and she followed him. That would kill her self defence argument in many places.
 
She'd just been sexually assaulted and likely wasn't thinking with 100% clarity. Maybe if she'd had time to nip home for a cup of tea before pulling the knife out she'd have taken a different path.

The law isn't working correctly if the woman in this instance doesn't have the complete right to put the threat down with lethal force. She shouldn't have been put into a situation of having to weigh up the pros and cons between fight or flight while trying to take a train in an apparently civilised country.
But she was thinking clearly enough to follow him, threaten him, then engage him on her own terms. He wasn't stabbed as a reflexive action after The Assening.
 
64? Bastard probably has a few bastards himself. If only he got ganked much younger.
 
You fought on the wrong side entirely.
Then maybe they shouldn’t have been assholes who attacked us and declared war on us. If they just focused on the Soviets we wouldn’t have had to end them.
Did she forget she was currently in a 3rd world shithole and should've let that poor marginalized man rape her? He was having a sexual emergency!
She should’ve gone to a different country for vscation. Fuck giving Germany or France or thr UK money.
 
I support TND in all situations. Including pre-emptive self defence cases lile this. A nigger outside of Africa is a clear and present danger at all times. She could have engaged this guy at 500 metres with a scoped rifle from a concealed position and I'd nod and say 'self defence'.

Niggers and nigger-lovers have shit up this thread unfortunatly
 
If I were strong enough to grab her arm firmly enough to make her struggle to break free, wouldn't I also be strong enough to just get the hell away from this lady who's pointing a knife at me?
Anyone can make someone struggle, it's just about how much and who wins, and apparently she did. Plus strength has almost no bearing on escape, that's much more about speed and agility.

However, we really don't have a lot to go on without video. All we know is he allegedly touched her butt, she pursued him, a struggle commenced, and he lost. Any nuance or additional details which may or may not be pertinent are unavailable to us. But based on this information alone it's 100% impossible to conclude this was anything but excessive force, manslaughter at minimum (maybe not murder if we believe stabbing him in the heart was somehow an accident).

But she was thinking clearly enough to follow him, threaten him, then engage him on her own terms. He wasn't stabbed as a reflexive action after The Assening.
He who hasn't been flustered over a minor physical altercation, followed someone, then killed them, cast the first stone.
 
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