Martial Arts Discussion For Ladies

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

In recent years the martial arts have been becoming very popular, and more and more women are taking them up for many reasons. Fitness, sport, self defense, community, fun, there are many great reasons for anyone to take up a martial art no matter your age, sex, or experience. I hope this thread can be a good place for women to discuss training, ask questions to other martial artists, and maybe even pique some interest if someone's on the fence about starting.

The Good
Despite what the dudebros may say, women are more than capable of holding their own. Trust me, I have been kicked by a woman sixty pounds lighter than me and it felt like my damn leg was going to fall off, I have been strangled many times by a girly-girl princess despite my best efforts, and have been wrestled down by a farmgal more times than I can count. Don't let anyone tell you women can't fight, those people know nothing of fighting and are complete retards.
Martial arts provide a great community, a great outlet, can give you more confidence in daily life, and frankly it's great fun. A real gym, a good gym, sees past your sex and respects you as a fellow athlete on your own path.
Competition is another aspect of martial arts, if that's something you want to do. Women's divisions are huge, women's-only open mats are great, and there's even some women's-only gyms popping up more and more nowadays. There's something for everybody.

The Bad
Unfortunately, it's not all sunshine. Women in particular really have to vet their gyms. McDojoLife on YouTube has many stories about bad, dangerous, and predatory dojos. I cannot in good faith present only the good of the martial arts world without a warning.
Always look into the instructors. Do they have a record? Do they use the gym like Tindr? Do they get a little too close to the kids? These are legit issues that women and mothers need to really think about before joining a gym.
Now, it's actually pretty rare all things considered but always be on the lookout for weird shit, there's thousands of other places to train don't be pressured into being at some shithole.

So have fun and keep training, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

 

[CallmeCicada]

Two things. Learn Run No Jutsu and Gun-Fu.

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

The best self defense is a good offense, and the best way to do that is to become a cop and kneel on the nearest black man's neck

 

[.iota.]

i like aikido.
it's all about avoiding physical conflict. when that's not possible, it becomes about deflecting physical violence, and when that's not possible, it becomes about using your opponent's aggression against them.

edited for typo, and to note that being proficient with a martial art and being proficient with a firearm are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Cat tit bingo]

Martial arts are great for women, it builds strength, you learn great techniques, it's great exercise and you make tons of friends but still just use a gun. No matter how strong you are or what skills you have if someone is trying to hurt you don't take a chance and just fucking shoot them or run away. It's great to know how to fight but weither you're a man or a women It's not fucking worth it to test your strength, don't risk death just use a gun.

 

[Idiotron]

Jiu Jitsu is the martial art for women.
If you know all the proper techniques, you can be 120 lbs and take down a 200 lbs dude with jiu jitsu.

 

[ElHijodeDeficienciaCogni]

i like akido.
it's all about avoiding physical conflict. when that's not possible, it becomes about deflecting physical violence, and when that's not possible, it becomes about using your opponent's aggression against them.

Arguably the most powerful martial arts in Japan.
An Aikido practitioner is practically invincible, no one of any martial arts background can ever land a punch or kick on one.
Using the power of the attacker, the Aikido practitioner uses absolutely no energy to knock them down.
A fearsome martial arts it is.

 

[Sonic]

Jiu Jitsu is the martial art for women.
If you know all the proper techniques, you can be 120 lbs and take down a 200 lbs dude with jiu jitsu.

Is that a good starting point?

I'm 100% intrigued, but I have to clue where to even begin.

 

[Skitarii]

Is that a good starting point?

I'm 100% intrigued, but I have to clue where to even begin.

Start with wing chun, and then graduate onto salsa dancing. Once you have those mastered, learn Russian slap-fighting and chi-manipulation. Round off your training with parkour and Tae Bo and you'll be ready to fight 200 lbs hoodlums with ease. Make sure you train at a McDojo with at least seventeen American flags.

 

[Turkroach Couple]

Jiu Jitsu is the martial art for women

It's great until you put the guy in a triangle and he realizes you've basically just opened yourself up to get penetrated.

Taking a street fight to the works in very few circumstances

 

[We Are The Witches]

i like akido.
it's all about avoiding physical conflict. when that's not possible, it becomes about deflecting physical violence, and when that's not possible, it becomes about using your opponent's aggression against them.

I don't think Aikido is good for "street fights" (assuming that's the point, self-defense).

Unless you master it, you'd probably be better off with MMA if you want to protect yourself. Also, there's a lot of frauds that claim to be masters, where you see their exhibition of the art amounting to some dude looking like Steven Seagal pushing someone in the face, that for no reason falls repeatedly to the floor.

It's the difference between having your sparring friend come at you with the most obvious choreographed attack vs a group of violent criminals circling you in the middle of the night.

For the latter case, I'd prefer to be trained in boxing and MMA, rather than Aikido.

 

[Obstacle]

1. Understand your limitations
2. Size up the threat
3. Always expect to be outnumbered
4. React swiftly and aggressively
5. The Fighting retreat is almost always the best strategy for self-preservation.
6. Do not go to ground or limit your own freedom of movement when you are defending yourself, unless you have no way to escape
7. Do not expect your opponent to give up after being struck a few times
8. Beware of false surrender

 

[.iota.]

I don't think Aikido is good for "street fights" (assuming that's the point, self-defense).

I'd prefer to be trained in boxing and MMA, rather than Aikido.

i would prefer to never engage in street fights, nor to be in a position to be surrounded by a group of violent criminals in the middle of the night. i have no interest in grappling with an attacker. the goal is simply to avoid attack in the first place, and if that's not possible, to remove myself from the attack.

 

[We Are The Witches]

i would prefer to never engage in street fights, nor to be in a position to be surrounded by a group of violent criminals in the middle of the night. i have no interest in grappling with an attacker. the goal is simply to avoid attack in the first place, and if that's not possible, to remove myself from the attack.

Of course, but sadly sometimes that's not a choice.

And when it's not a choice, your life and wellbeing are at great risk, so you better give your best shot. I personally think that Aikido is not going to give you the best shot in that unfortunate circumstance, otherwise of course, avoid fights.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Don't let anyone tell you women can't fight, those people know nothing of fighting and are complete retards.

This is simply untrue. A woman with fighting training will almost invariably lose to a man with fighting training.
I'm all for women being able to defend themselves and martial arts are good for fun and exercise but a woman should understand that she won't win a real fight against a determined attacker. Go for the eyes/balls and make as much noise as you can, then run as soon as possible. Even better, don't put yourselves in dangerous situations. Also, get a gun and learn to use it. Practice drawing and aiming. Make sure you can slip the safety off in the dark, by feel alone.

 

[ElHijodeDeficienciaCogni]

I don't think Aikido is good for "street fights" (assuming that's the point, self-defense).

Unless you master it, you'd probably be better off with MMA if you want to protect yourself. Also, there's a lot of frauds that claim to be masters, where you see their exhibition of the art amounting to some dude looking like Steven Seagal pushing someone in the face, that for no reason falls repeatedly to the floor.

It's the difference between having your sparring friend come at you with the most obvious choreographed attack vs a group of violent criminals circling you in the middle of the night.

For the latter case, I'd prefer to be trained in boxing and MMA, rather than Aikido.

I know you don't believe in the power of Aikido. I can see why you believe that, how can a peaceful martial arts like Aikido beat a powerful one like Boxing
Well, I have a story to share with you.
Years ago, I was a a junior Golden Gloves boxer, I thought I was the toughest kid in high school, I would pick fights, and kick ass. I was full of hate, until I picked a fight with the wrong dude. He was a Japanese exchange student, I still remember his name, Noboru Takeda.
I picked on him because of his hilarious and thick Japanese accent. I told him I was going to beat him so hard, he would go back to China(Yeah, I was a little racist prick.), he never said anything back, made me wanted to kick his ass even harder.
Well, here comes the fight. I threw several jabs and hooks, he dodged them like I was a mere rookie. I was tiring out and he knew, I saw the smirk on his face that made me raged hard. I put all my strength in one amazing straight, and he grabbed it and threw me over. My back smacked on the hard cement ground, and I was knocked out for who knows how long.
When I woke up I was in the school infirmary, I asked the nurse who brought me here, and you guessed it, Noboru Takeda. The next day, he wasn't at school, he was back in Japan, and I never got to thank him, for saving my life and showing me the light. I soon learned that he was an Aikidoka and have been practicing Aikido ever since to show my thanks to him.

 

[Borplesnort]

Situational awareness and good running shoes are the most valuable martial arts, right behind being proficient with a gun. If you really want to learn a martial arts, Brazilian JIu Jitsu or Judo are fantastic options because as a woman, knowing how to grapple, and most importantly disengage from an aggressor and make space is going to be vastly more important to know than how to throw head kicks.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

This is simply untrue. A woman with fighting training will almost invariably lose to a man with fighting training.

Yeah, and a guy from your local gym will lose against Khabib as well. There’s levels to everything.
Either way, a trained woman has a much better chance against an untrained man than if she were untrained, and you most likely won’t be assaulted by a trained man it’s probably some rando preying on someone smaller than them.
Trust me, I’ve been fuuucked up by women much smaller than me because they can kick like lightning &/or grab your neck before you know which way is up.

It's great until you put the guy in a triangle and he realizes you've basically just opened yourself up to get penetrated.

Taking a street fight to the ground works in very few circumstances

Especially for women, sometimes that’s not your decision to make. If a guy grabs you, it’s a grappling fight now and I would say BJJ and Judo is the best for that because you know how to choke a guy out and run the fuck away to safety. There’s plenty of CCTV footage of women being assaulted by a man, her dragging him down, choking him out, and sprinting in the opposite direction.

1. Understand your limitations
2. Size up the threat
3. Always expect to be outnumbered
4. React swiftly and aggressively
5. The Fighting retreat is almost always the best strategy for self-preservation.
6. Do not go to ground or limit your own freedom of movement when you are defending yourself, unless you have no way to escape
7. Do not expect your opponent to give up after being struck a few times
8. Beware of false surrender

To paraphrase my professor, “ladies, always run away. If you have to fight a guy don’t stop until he’s out cold, then run away and call your brothers.” False surrender is a common tactic, but in a legit fight to protect yourself the word ‘surrender’ doesn’t exist anymore. This asshole, against your consent, did something to you and his feelings on the matter don’t mean anything anymore.

Is that a good starting point?

I'm 100% intrigued, but I have to clue where to even begin.

I’m biased, but it’s a great starting point. It’s just essentially wrestling, but with submission holds and we don’t care if our back is on the mat. It’s probably the best martial art for a one-on-one fight as it’s central idea is survival, that’s it’s not over until it’s over, and it concludes the fight decisively by breaking joints and strangulation. For women, you learn to negate your attackers strengths to an extent and magnify your own through leverage, hence why a kid can break a grown man’s arm.
It’s also just very fun, I would recommend shopping around and asking questions both to the instructors and the students.

 

[We Are The Witches]

I know you don't believe in the power of Aikido. I can see why you believe that, how can a peaceful martial arts like Aikido beat a powerful one like Boxing

Very inspiring story if true.

However I don't see this going well when a woman is confronted by a man, potentially several men, all probably bulkier and heavier, in the freaking streets at night, when even the lack of visibility could be a factor.

Like if these attackers are not complete idiots, that scenario you described will never occur. It's not 1 on 1 with all the space around to skillfully avoid punches, but more like 3 on 1, a step away from you, where the second you make contact 1 of them will probably grab your arm and not leg go, while the others beat you up.

If she tries one of those Aikido locks, or even "redirecting his weight" in the most movie-like fashion for a dude that doubles her in muscle mass, I don't see it going well since this is not Baki the grappler.

At that point, you're better off scratching their eyes or kicking them in the knees & make a sprint to get away.

 

[Chromeo]

Ra ra ree, kick him in the knee! Ra ra rass, kick him in the other knee!