💤 Inactive Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

[Arthur Morgan]

If his parents died there is no way he’d stay off the internet because of it. He’d be raging away at Donald Drumf for killing his parents with the Chinese Flu.

I'm of two minds about this. On one hand, if Dobson got his parents' money without stipulations (I hope for his sake there are some and it'll go into a trust that pays out occasionally rather than a lump sum he can blow) he'd buy useless shit, get some more comics, stream any show, and play any game he wants on his switch. Most of his sperging would probably be about what he bought, and then promptly forgot about, showing off his wealth and trying to pretend he earned it. On the other, consooming has never stopped him from raging against the internet, so he probably would get angrier.

 

[AskeDead]

Dobson cons back….we miss you….

 

[LordofCringe7206 Vol. 2]

I'm of two minds about this. On one hand, if Dobson got his parents' money without stipulations (I hope for his sake there are some and it'll go into a trust that pays out occasionally rather than a lump sum he can blow) he'd buy useless shit, get some more comics, stream any show, and play any game he wants on his switch. Most of his sperging would probably be about what he bought, and then promptly forgot about, showing off his wealth and trying to pretend he earned it. On the other, consooming has never stopped him from raging against the internet, so he probably would get angrier.

Nothing is going to make him less angry. It is incapable of happening. He was put on this planet to be an angry and overly hostile sperg. It goes against how he is mentally wired to be rational or happy. That very reason is why his life is the way it is now.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

It goes against how he is mentally wired to be rational or happy. That very reason is why his life is the way it is now.

This is probably why he was one of my "favorite" cows. I always found fascinating how he seems so incapable of being happy, he has to be bitter about everything, I'll never know if he got a kick out of feeling miserable, or if he was intentionally making his life shit, because once he "made it" he'll then brag about how he was bullied and nobody believed in him and "look who's laughing now".

 

[Ewan McGregor]

incapable of being happy

If his comics are anything to go by, he enjoyed other people's misery quite a bit

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Oh, Dobson.

There were so many threads had at his expense on /co/ back in the day. I wish I saved some of the threads he clearly posted in, and was rightly mocked for doing so.

The saddest part about Andrew Dobson is that he had drawing chops. His technical ability was actually quite good. He understood many artistic fundamentals. Where it all went wrong was that the dude simply could not take any form of constructive criticism regarding his work or his behaviour.

Truly a classic lolcow.

 

[Marzipan Apple]

Oh, Dobson.

There were so many threads had at his expense on /co/ back in the day. I wish I saved some of the threads he clearly posted in, and was rightly mocked for doing so.

The saddest part about Andrew Dobson is that he had drawing chops. His technical ability was actually quite good. He understood many artistic fundamentals. Where it all went wrong was that the dude simply could not take any form of constructive criticism regarding his work or his behaviour.

Truly a classic lolcow.

He was also extremely lazy. He knew very well what his artistic faults were, but he was totally unwilling to improve. I don't know how he expected to be a competitive artist while being as slothful and complacent as humanly possible.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

He was also extremely lazy. He knew very well what his artistic faults were, but he was totally unwilling to improve. I don't know how he expected to be a competitive artist while being as slothful and complacent as humanly possible.

Some people did genuinely try to help Dobson in this regard and ultimately gave up when Dobson basically told them to eat shit and die.

I know that he is a dipshit and all, but I cannot help but feel a bit of sorrow that a potentially good artist kneecapped himself in the most vindictive and self-destructive ways.

 

[UtopiaGuy]

I think one of Dobson's fatal flaws (outside of his whole personality and broken brain), was that he proceeded from a false assumption. He would approach comics like they were keyframes in animation, which is why a lot of his stuff didn't work. But illustration is not animation and animation is not illustration. In spite of the similarities, comics and animated cartoons are two very different things when you think about it. He didn't really understand that, and wouldn't be told otherwise. In his mind they were the same thing.

Dobson really is a sad case. I admit, I always felt a little sorry for Dobson, but then he'd go and do something all Dobsony, and any sympathy I had for him would instantly evaporate. But there's something tragic about how fucked up he was and how he fucked up his life, squandered his opportunities and drove away any audience he could have built. I dunno. I hope he has a better life these days, but we all know he doesn't. He's the same Dobson, just as shitty and lazy and arrogant as he ever was. He just doesn't draw anymore and hides behind an alt on social media, still spouting the hot takes he thinks will get him clicks and likes and faves and shares, all of which is a worthless currency.

 

[Marzipan Apple]

Dobson was definitely a flawed dude. He was angry, bitter, belligerent, arrogant, and sanctimonious among many other things. But I think that his ego was the ultimate root of his failure.

He was more in love with the idea of being an artist than actually creating art. He had no desire to learn his chosen craft and entertain his audience. He would only draw things that interested him (i.e. lesbians, inflation, and Nintendo games). He'd constantly boast about his art school education, and give advice like he was some 40 year industry veteran despite his own meager artistic skills. He would reject anything that didn't conform to his self image of being an amazing artist (like constructive criticism). He had no interest in anything that didn't boost his ego or give him instant gratification. He just wanted to reach the Emerald City now, yellow brick road be damned.

There are plenty of successful artists who are angry curmudgeonly assholes, and there are many animators who successfully transition to comic art, but those successful artists all have a strong motivation to create art, unlike Dobson. There are some drawfags on this forum that have never stepped foot into an art class and they draw infinitely better than Dobson simply because they want to draw, not because they want others to validate their "skill" with online asspats.

I agree that he had some genuine talent that he could have developed, but that was never his goal. He just wanted adoration and praise without doing the work required to earn them.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

He would approach comics like they were keyframes in animation, which is why a lot of his stuff didn't work.

I never, ever thought of that - but you are completely right. Maybe the dude would have been happier if he went to the School for Visual Arts in NY and had an animation career?

The world will never know.

 

[Marzipan Apple]

I never, ever thought of that - but you are completely right. Maybe the dude would have been happier if he went to the School for Visual Arts in NY and had an animation career?

The world will never know.

His amateur animations weren't half bad.

2:05

He probably would have made a good animator had things turned out differently.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

That really is pretty good. What a waste.

 

[Ghostse]

His sketches are actually pretty decent, but his finished product is always so sterile and lifeless. Its like a good artist gave their sketches to their retarded assistant to finish.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

His amateur animations weren't half bad.

Patty Movie by TomPreston.mp4

He probably would have made a good animator had things turned out differently.

They're technically fine- that is, he understands the principles of animation. His refusal to use storyboards or model sheets is what hurts him. Pity he was a such a bitter little man. He could've been running Disney's animation department by now.

 

[Vampirella]

They're technically fine- that is, he understands the principles of animation. His refusal to use storyboards or model sheets is what hurts him. Pity he was a such a bitter little man. He could've been running Disney's animation department by now.

He got in to the internet at the right time. He could have made a name for himself in the early days in places like Newgrounds or Albino Black sheep. But he's lazy so that never happened.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

His sketches are actually pretty decent, but his finished product is always so sterile and lifeless. Its like a good artist gave their sketches to their retarded assistant to finish.

I think another tragic aspect of his was his refusal to allow his style to naturally evolve. He insisted into his Rumiko Takahashi-esque style in character design, flavour of slapstic comedy and such (Though always in a shallow way, he would never manage to go anywhere near Rumiko's characterisation, relationship building or the attention to detail that is a part of her aesthetics) and would not move from there.

Until he burned out of it, rage quit it, denounced anime as a whole as the culprit for his creative stagnation, and then moved for a more patriotic, quintessentially american Disney style, which he also took the basics from, never bothered to master or understand its more complex aspects neither he wanted to depart from it into a more personal, unique aesthetic.

The most personal, unique, footprint, trademark thing he ever did, the only thing of his entire work that encompasses 'Dobsonesque' is the Blue Bear with his over-detailed, exaggerated, psychotic expressions. That's the only little tidbit where he let go and put all his heart in and everything he had inside him, and it was obnoxious.

 

[Viper the rappah]

His amateur animations weren't half bad.

Patty Movie by TomPreston.mp4

He probably would have made a good animator had things turned out differently.

I don't hate all of his pieces but i do see him as a generic and mediocre artist with temper tantrums
To me dobson is just grandfather of new gen webtoon/twitter slop artists and what sucks is that his animation genuinely impressed me. It's fluid, he can pull off more complicated shots and knows how to portray movement pretty nicely. And you know best part? It's the fact that all his generic ocs that look like cheap anime work well for his short since they are really simple to draw and make up for his fluid animation. Too bad he wasted it to sperg at the internet and rage at critics. God it sucks reading this thread because i can picture in alternative universe dobson sitting on a chair in big disney studio with his stupid bald head and grin smiling as he animates some beautiful shots for next animated movie

 

[Marzipan Apple]

Some more of his animation work.

1:28

2:51

This baffles me. In the demo reel video, there's such a huge gap in quality between the 2D drawings and the 2D animation. He was barely able to draw a natural-looking static pose; how was he able to make such fluid high-quality animation?

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

This baffles me. In the demo reel video, there's such a huge gap in quality between the 2D drawings and the 2D animation. He was barely able to draw a natural-looking static pose; how was he able to make such fluid high-quality animation?

Animation is far less about artistic ability and far more about doing painfully shitty and repetitive work frame-by-frame.

For example: Genndy Tartakovsky (of Samurai Jack fame) was not a very good artist, and he knew it. However, when he applied to CalArts (with a great deal of encouragement from Rob Renzetti), he got accepted because his animation chops were good.

Animation =/= art, they are very different disciplines.