Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Useful_Mistake]

It really is bizarre, considering all it would have taken for the venue change to not happen is Russel writing a 1 paragraph objection. He could have done it in 30 minutes and gone back to whatever it is he does with his afternoon (I don't want to know). Leave it to a lolsuit to result in lulzy situations the courts are not entirely prepared to address.

He could have responded with “Defendant has made it clear in the record that he doesn’t actually live in Florida, so if the motion is granted it should be moved to Nevada instead”, and that probably would have been enough of a response to get that motion denied.

Can SCOTUS, what, reverse the appeals court decision and tell the court of appeal to consider it again, but properly this time?

Yes, they do it all the time after issuing a new ruling on something. “Remanded to reconsider the issue in light of [x] ruling”

and recording in general is also allowed, then someone let me know because I could record it.

Electronic recording of court proceedings is banned almost everywhere. Court can do it if it so chooses, but you are only allowed non-electronic means (some places allow phones as long as the notes app is all you’re using)

 

[Al from Dadeville]

Written notes would be a lot better than nothing

 

[Oxyjen]

Written notes would be a lot better than nothing

I demand a courtroom sketch.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Written notes would be a lot better than nothing

Even if the court doesn’t have a stenographer or court reporter doing the magic little machine, you can hire them freelance to do basically the same. Unofficial, but accurate.

 

[Al from Dadeville]

I demand a courtroom sketch.

“OK have a seat sir. You had your time to talk. You won’t talk unless I ask you to.”

 

[Betonhaus]

Even if the court doesn’t have a stenographer or court reporter doing the magic little machine, you can hire them freelance to do basically the same. Unofficial, but accurate.

Could we crowdfund to hire a stenographer and a courtroom artist? Granted that should be saved for an event that Greer should be showing up in person to.

 

[Vect]

Could we crowdfund to hire a stenographer and a courtroom artist? Granted that should be saved for an event that Greer should be showing up in person to.

I think we can anticipate there being better uses for this money than hiring a traveling circus. This is literally just the first guy this fund is being spent on.

 

[geckogoy]

If someone wants it just pay a stenographer to do it and post the results, thats not getting crowd funded in like 4 days or whatever

 

[waffle]

I'm sure the regular court reporter would gladly prepare a transcript and that won't piss the judge off. Even if it isnt officially on the record there may be a recording she can transcribe. It'll probably cost between $150-250, depending on length of the transcript and local rates.

Calling/e-mailing her before the hearing would likely grease the wheels. I won't post her contact info here because it just encourages weens, but im sure it's easy to find if somebody wants to legitimately request one. She won't care if you contsct her for a bonafied reason, she's a contract worker and the transcript fee goes directly in her pocket - she'd love to make one.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Clerk: All rise for Judge BigNuts!

JBN: Are the parties present?

Hardin: a website, here your honor

Phone: suspiciously dry silence

JBN: Wtf?

Thomas: laughs

There. I did the transcript for you.

 

[Thomas Talus]

If you want to have an audio log of the proceedings, just request an FTR recording from the court records department. They're probably not going to be available same day, but you can at least fill out the request form.

 

[Al from Dadeville]

Null has to show up in person to avoid conflicts with his mortal enemy, the mute button

 

[Your Starter for 10]

I hope the judge has mute issues so I can start calling her Judge Mutie Patootie.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

It also has the same fake address he was using in Utah.

Lol.

It is extremely important for all pro se litigants to inform the Clerk's Office (as well as the other parties in the lawsuit) of any change of address immediately so that legal mail regarding the case can be sent to the correct address. All change of address notifications must be submitted in writing, using the notice of change of address.

https://www.flnd.uscourts.gov/filing-without-attorney

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

I hope the judge has mute issues so I can start calling her Judge Mutie Patootie.

If the judge has mute issues I hope you spazzes who attend in person can restrain yourselves from yelling, "BOOMER!".

 

[AnOminous]

I'm 99% sure recording it is illegal since Florida state law requires consent from all parties.

No, it's illegal because federal court almost always forbids everyone except the court reporter or other designated personnel from recording it. That's why you have sketches from courtroom artists. Some courts do otherwise and some do it if one of the parties or the media requests it, but it is usually up to the judge if it isn't outright forbidden.

Court is generally a public proceeding, but a status conference is not necessarily, and generally a "meet and confer" between parties without the judge isn't. I would not assume this is open for public listening despite the presence of the information for how to do it being on the public docket. I'll check on Monday.

tl;dr it's probably illegal but not for the reason you said since that's not about public proceedings but about phone calls or other communication where at least one party is assuming they're private.

 

[DavidS877]

No, it's illegal because federal court almost always forbids everyone except the court reporter or other designated personnel from recording it. That's why you have sketches from courtroom artists. Some courts do otherwise and some do it if one of the parties or the media requests it, but it is usually up to the judge if it isn't outright forbidden.

Court is generally a public proceeding, but a status conference is not necessarily, and generally a "meet and confer" between parties without the judge isn't. I would not assume this is open for public listening despite the presence of the information for how to do it being on the public docket. I'll check on Monday.

tl;dr it's probably illegal but not for the reason you said since that's not about public proceedings but about phone calls or other communication where at least one party is assuming they're private.

Previous poster in thread called, no public call in. Fine for public in person.

Not sure I want to re-read thread to see what was said about official transcript or recording.

 

[Betonhaus]

I hope someone hires a caricaturist to do the courtroom sketch

 

[Null]

???? the conference is a fucking PHONE CALL. I don't understand all the spam about hiring random fucking people. There won't be appearances. I don't have to show up. My attorney calls in, Greer calls in. If you're in the court room you can listen to the phone call. Nobody can record it. It's not secret like mediation so I'll just recount what happens for you.

Edit: Transcripts will also probably be $200 and I'm probably just going to buy one if anything noteworthy happens.

 

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@Null what would be the best case scenario when the phone call comes?