- Dołączono
- 17 Sie 2018
I swear to God, the whole "guided tour" rationalization for 1/6 is the right's "mostly peaceful protests." If it's so important to them, why weren't THEY there then?
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- 3 Sty 2024
Because legally that makes it entrapment. The whole narrative of 'nooo stop them from reaching the invalidate-the-election button' kindof starts to break down when the police were proactively encouraging people to enter and then letting them in.
- Dołączono
- 5 Sty 2022
The local cops were overwhelmed at many points and couldn't offer meaningful resistance. Cops that pushed back were in some cases beaten. Maybe some cops inside the capitol assumed that they were allowed to be there since they had made it past the barricades, or maybe they were also intimidated.
At some chokepoints the cops were able to hold them back and you can see the hecking wholesome MAGAs assault them. I guess those cops hadn't gotten the memo from the Deep State to entrap the MAGAs, or maybe the MAGAs were actually government plants to make J6 look violent?
I wish that the right would spend energy on things that mattered instead of trying to rehabilitate J6ers, but I guess that we love losing battles too much.
- Dołączono
- 3 Sie 2022
My personal opinion about J6 is that it was a pretty spontaneous boomercon explosion of rage and impotence, and that it is somewhat likely that they were allowed to fool around a bit. I'm not really buying into any of the conspiracy theories about it.
I consider these people incredibly low IQ. They didn't know what they wanted. If I were in that movement, it would've been obvious that you had to overwhelm the Capitol guards and take the politicians hostage, take over the whole building. Why else would you even start this shit up? Only one reason to storm government buildings, to overthrow the regime.
But the Amerimutt boomercons are really, really speshul. They're not that angry, they're well fed, fat even. They are raging at trannies and niggers, but nothing of significance is truly at stake, like in other revolutions. They rage ceremoniously, like in the Antifa vs the Chuds clashes of 2017, and then everyone goes home and has a drink, watches the game on TV.
True revolutionaries don't act like this, because it's a matter of life and death. If you fail, the regime will likely kill you. After torturing you. And your family. There is no going back after you make a decisive step. It's all in, whatever happens, happens.
I consider these people incredibly low IQ. They didn't know what they wanted. If I were in that movement, it would've been obvious that you had to overwhelm the Capitol guards and take the politicians hostage, take over the whole building. Why else would you even start this shit up? Only one reason to storm government buildings, to overthrow the regime.
But the Amerimutt boomercons are really, really speshul. They're not that angry, they're well fed, fat even. They are raging at trannies and niggers, but nothing of significance is truly at stake, like in other revolutions. They rage ceremoniously, like in the Antifa vs the Chuds clashes of 2017, and then everyone goes home and has a drink, watches the game on TV.
True revolutionaries don't act like this, because it's a matter of life and death. If you fail, the regime will likely kill you. After torturing you. And your family. There is no going back after you make a decisive step. It's all in, whatever happens, happens.
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- 22 Sty 2021
But will that ever happen in the west? I've seen no signs governments want to do this, just lots and lots of tiny, seemingly insignificant, changes. Doing that over some generations and eventually you will have children born with their sprits already broken. Just keep the burgers and the entertainment flowing and it will never reach that point. Anyone smart enough to see this will be easily disregarded as just a few loons.
- Dołączono
- 3 Sie 2022
That's the big question isn't it?
I am mildly optimistic that it can still happen, but it would require some sort of trigger, catalyzing event that would push people past this "hmm this is kinda going too far maybe I should return home now" stage.
But then again, considering how diverse America and a lot of the Western countries are, there are no guarantees that your preferred group will be the one doing it. When revolution happened in my country, there were well defined lines - the regime, the army, the secret police, the party elites VS the starved people, about 90% of them of Romanian ethnicity. So you can see how much easier is to coalesce around a shared goal when you're all of the same tribe.
But in the US everything's complicated. A black revolt will be feared by whites, who would side with the government if it tries to crush it. A white revolt would be feared by minorities who would side with the government. Any government is seen as an implicit representation of some racial interests, the dems and their minority coalition, the reps and their white+right wing minorities coalition. All debates are around lunacy, like fascism that, racism this, anti-Semitism that.
You almost never hear policy debates. Elites and big corporations get what they want like 80-90% of the time, there's some poll or w/e on this that's rather famous. The people, the working class, basically get shit, and culture wars.
Very complex, very disjointed, very psychopathic situation.
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- 17 Mar 2019
It's hardly a conspiracy theory to point out that Trump and his boss Jared wanted it to happen. They should both be sentenced to jail for the sum of their idiotic boomercon puppets sentences, or be given the justice that Ashley Babbitt was.
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- 3 Sie 2022
I have my doubts. About both men. Jared is a minority and would never desire a real boomercon revolution, cause his ass would end up near Pence's. Trump is a literal retard and in his dumb head he probably thought that once his mob is near the Capitol, the voting politicians/the dems would come out to make peace and recognize him as the valiant orange totally legitimately elected 4lifenigga El Presidente, and all would be awesome and cool and he'll go on TV to explain how everyone likes him.
As for sentencing them, I mean, sure absolutely go ahead, I'm a sucker for drama, and I most definitely want to see the US providing more drama.
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- Dołączono
- 17 Kwi 2022
January 6 wasn't an insurrection but it should have been. Unfortunately Trump was too unprepared and too confident in his own gravitas to really plan for an actual coup, hence the small gathering at the capitol. He could have been a Caesar, but he cucked out. SAD!
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- Dołączono
- 17 Mar 2019
I mean, it doesn't neccessarily have to be an actual revolution for them to be behind it. Getting a bunch of Trump's supporters arrested and harping on it for years rather than... just pardoning them is classic Trump.
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- 2 Kwi 2023
Wait...how could he have pardoned them...am I missing something?
Don't get me wrong, if he gets re-elected and pardons them--which he might not--it will only be for the sloppy cocksuck his base of sycophantic cucks will give him for triggering the libtards, not because he gives a shit about anyone other than himself.
What did these fuckwits who got convicted--or shot--think was gonna happen? And to throw it all away for a clown who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the presidency?
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- Dołączono
- 17 Mar 2019
Pre-emptive pardons are a thing. C.f. Nixon, who was never charged with any crimes.
- Dołączono
- 2 Kwi 2023
Indeed this is true - Trump could have, and should have, preemptively pardoned every J6 protester. HOWEVER, he only had a chaotic two weeks to decide, before anyone was even charged.
He probably should have foreseen how ruthlessly they'd be prosecuted if he didn't, but ofc it's difficult to predict the actions of insane people.
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- 28 Gru 2014
Because the overwhelming majority of the people there weren't there to commit "insurrection" but just to protest?
- Dołączono
- 3 Sie 2022
Yeah but quite a few also basically came close to crossing the Rubicon and forced their way in a government building and came like 50m from your politicians. They fucked around in private offices of the elected elites and messed with their electronics. They smashed into the desperate police trying to keep them away and bonked them with flags and other shit.
So two things are true, a large majority of normie Trump supporters were outside kinda watching it as a developing shitshow and frozen in inaction, while a more belligerent faction was fighting it out with the police in some places, breaking in through windows etc.
But even the belligerent group had no fucking idea what to do inside. Protest, this was no longer one. But they also did not have the courage to fully commit to hunting down the politicians and taking a few casualties while overwhelming the very limited secret service protection or whatever those dudes were.
Kinda ironic that it was a chick that had the courage to jump through that inner door window and get shot, and immediately as people saw blood it all fell apart.
I'll never understand this stuff. Why go in if not prepared to risk it all?
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- 28 Gru 2014
Because the people doing that were morons? Even the vast majority of that stuff was at worst mischief. Yet we're told that someone who was just standing there chanting "stop the steal" or whatever is a rioter.
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- Dołączono
- 1 Gru 2020
I still stand by the Jan 6thers did want to change the outcome of the election but most of them didn't plan to storm the capital but kind of just got caught up with it and when they got into the building they had no idea what to do next, so mostly fucked around. That doesn't excuse what they did or mean they shouldn't face consequences, but they weren't the threat some people make them out to be.
Even if people were fooled to storm the capital by antifa like some conspiracy theories say, how does that absolve anyone dumb enough to follow?
Even if people were fooled to storm the capital by antifa like some conspiracy theories say, how does that absolve anyone dumb enough to follow?
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- 25 Maj 2013
because they're on my side of the political aisle and therefore they can do no wrong
the way i see january 6th, the intent of the retards there was indeed to change the outcome of the election. doesn't matter how inept and impotent they were, they intended to fuck with the outcome of the election. this wasn't a protest, this was a riot, and i know whenever black people riot, many people on this very forum would totally be fine with maiming/killing them, so i fail to understand why people have an issue with the 1/6 retards facing the consequences for their stupidity (it's because they're white btw, just in case you weren't picking up what i was putting down).
basically, FAFO, amirite
- Dołączono
- 4 Paź 2016
Problem is, whether you broke the law because of malicious intent, or because of being a dumbass, you still broke the law. And think of how it looks to the rest of the world, if this country were to allow something like Jan 6 with nothing more than a slap on the wrist for the participants? Like, the US can't even stand up to it's own people, why are we scared of them again?
- Dołączono
- 5 Sty 2022
Speaking of J6, the famous "Q shaman" is already out of after serving 27 months of a 41 month sentence. Despite being the most famous person from the event, his life wasn't ruined. MAGAs are not taking this as a sign that maybe the victim narrative is wrong, but rather that he must have snitched.
Oh, and he's still a supporter of Q. He says that "Qanon" is a media psyop while the chan poster "Q" is real and based. You see, Q was so powerful that the Deep State needed to discredit him by pretending to be supporters who believe in Flat Earth, reptillians and other silly nonsense. Real Q supporters aren't like that. Heck, the Q shaman believes that humanity could move to Jupiter. How is THAT crazy?
There's also a pretty good YT documentary about him. In it, he indirectly admits that he withheld evidence from the feds that showed MAGAs loot congressional offices, which is honestly kind of funny, but also doesn't help the victim narrative.
Oh, and he's still a supporter of Q. He says that "Qanon" is a media psyop while the chan poster "Q" is real and based. You see, Q was so powerful that the Deep State needed to discredit him by pretending to be supporters who believe in Flat Earth, reptillians and other silly nonsense. Real Q supporters aren't like that. Heck, the Q shaman believes that humanity could move to Jupiter. How is THAT crazy?
There's also a pretty good YT documentary about him. In it, he indirectly admits that he withheld evidence from the feds that showed MAGAs loot congressional offices, which is honestly kind of funny, but also doesn't help the victim narrative.