2024 Republican Presidential Primary

Who do you want to win?


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One of you fuckers called it that they would try to make RIGGERS a race thing.
That was me, and of course i was right, because it's getting that stupidly predictable
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Vivek Ramaswamy did a 45 minute interview with Tucker, covering topics like Ukraine, Taiwan, re-shoring the semiconductor industry, and LGBT issues. Tucker seems to really like Vivek, I would not be surprised if Tucker endorsed him later in the campaign if Vivek keeps building momentum. Vivek is definitely one to watch during the debates as well, he is going to be gunning for DeSantis as they are a fairly close 2nd/3rd in the polls after Trump.


A DeSantis debate talking points memo was also published by his super PAC, possibly by accident.
 
I think that DeSantis would make for the best choice. As @Marvin said Trump is kind of a retard when it comes to certain issues and he doesn't have a real platform. I also don't really think he did much for his movement, other than those SC picks and the wall. The problems we had in 2016 have only gotten worse. Trump hasn't done jack shit about big tech controlling the internet, colleges and radicalization, and news media bias, and leftist policies in public and private institutions (including the military). DeSantis on the other hand has at least tried to address some of these issues. He's a bit younger than Trump and has experience as a governor. He's also highly educated and served in the military, two traits that Trump lacks.

I'm not too familiar with most of the other candidates (besides the ones I'm about to mention, I only recognize Chris Christie), but I think that Mike Pence can eat a dick.

I also really do not like Nikki Haley. I can't go into too much detail due to powerleveling, but I think she's too much of a neo-con and she's not a particularly charismatic person. She can't draw a crowd and she can't motivate people to do things the same way Trump can. Her only real value is for diversity points as a VP and even then you're probably better off with a black guy.
Yeah I agree.

Trump is running on ONE ISSUE and that's.... REVENGE. Sure that's a good motivator for some but what else Donny? How are you going to unfuck the US energy supply landscape? What about illegal immigration? Big tech censorship? Inflation? EU nations being retarded? The Chinese getting uppity? All of Latin American deciding to use the USA as a poor person dumping ground? Cartels? Fentanyl? Retarded leftist DAs? Etc.

How about your absolutely pants on head retarded staff picks for the first 2 years of your Presidency and the fact that you let Jared and Ivanka run the show for a while?

Or your inability to pick people that aren't backstabbing morons? Fucking ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI???

Sure DeSantis has a more friendly legislature but he got shit done. Made baby supplies tax free, actually punished Disney for their woke bullshit, went after groomers and furries. Thot patrolled the state. Etc.

Also, he's a few DECADES younger than Trump. Trump is 77 goddamn years old. Fuck, dude should be enjoying his billions in a yacht somewhere, not reliving Nov 2020 - Jan 2021 every waking moment.

I don't want nostalgia, I want a plan for 2024-2028, and Trump hasn't given me one. Also..... Bump stocks..... I remember that one
 
I don't want nostalgia, I want a plan for 2024-2028, and Trump hasn't given me one. Also..... Bump stocks..... I remember that one
I'd seriously recommend giving Vivek's campaign platform a look. It is incredibly based. I was going to pull out some highlights, but the whole thing is great. The media has been treating him as an amusing sideshow so far, but his polling numbers are approaching DeSantis and a good debate performance could easily bump him into second place.

Revive American National Identity​

  • Use the military, including drones, to secure our southern border
  • End affirmative action: repeal Lyndon Johnson’s executive order 11246
  • Protect American children: ban addictive social media under age 16 & gender confusion “care” for minors
  • Make political expression a civil right & end unlawful DEI indoctrination
  • Withhold federal funding for cities that refuse to protect Americans from violent crime

Unleash the American Economy: Achieve >5% GDP Growth​

  • Drill, frack & burn coal: abandon the climate cult & unshackle nuclear energy
  • Put Americans back to work: dismantle Lyndon Johnson’s failed “Great Society”
  • Incentivize trade schools over hollow college degrees (sorry, gender studies majors)
  • Launch deregulatory “Reagan 2.0” revolution: cut >75% headcount amongst U.S. regulators
  • Limit the U.S. Fed’s scope: stabilize the dollar & nothing more

Declare Independence from Communist China​

  • Hold the CCP accountable for Covid-19: use all financial levers
  • Achieve semiconductor independence: secure our modern way of life
  • Stop CCP affiliates from buying American land
  • Use our military to annihilate Mexican drug cartels: defend against the CCP’s opium war
  • Ban U.S. businesses from expanding in China until the CCP stops cheating

Dismantle Managerial Bureaucracy​

  • Shut down toxic government agencies: Dept of Education, FBI, IRS, and more (and rebuild from scratch when required)
  • End civil service protections for bureaucrats: 8-year term limits instead
  • Eliminate federal employee unions: repeal JFK’s executive order 10988
  • Move >75% of federal employees out of Washington D.C. & end pro-lazy “remote work” option
  • Cut wasteful expenditures: White House, not individual agencies, will submit budget requests to Congress

End Weaponization of Government & Financial Markets​

  • Pardon defendants of politicized prosecutions: Trump, Mackey, and peaceful Jan 6 protesters
  • Hold Congress accountable for “hush money” fund: taxpayers should not subsidize sexual misconduct
  • Publish the Jeffrey Epstein client list: government should not use police power to shield select elites
  • Rescind Biden’s ESG rule for retirement funds: get politics out of corporate America and capital markets
  • Oppose CBDCs: fight all plans for digital currency, a dangerous scheme for government control over our bank accounts

 
Trump is running on ONE ISSUE and that's.... REVENGE. Sure that's a good motivator for some but what else Donny? How are you going to unfuck the US energy supply landscape? What about illegal immigration? Big tech censorship? Inflation? EU nations being retarded? The Chinese getting uppity? All of Latin American deciding to use the USA as a poor person dumping ground? Cartels? Fentanyl? Retarded leftist DAs? Etc.

How about your absolutely pants on head retarded staff picks for the first 2 years of your Presidency and the fact that you let Jared and Ivanka run the show for a while?

Or your inability to pick people that aren't backstabbing morons? Fucking ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI???

Sure DeSantis has a more friendly legislature but he got shit done. Made baby supplies tax free, actually punished Disney for their woke bullshit, went after groomers and furries. Thot patrolled the state. Etc.

Also, he's a few DECADES younger than Trump. Trump is 77 goddamn years old. Fuck, dude should be enjoying his billions in a yacht somewhere, not reliving Nov 2020 - Jan 2021 every waking moment.

I don't want nostalgia, I want a plan for 2024-2028, and Trump hasn't given me one. Also..... Bump stocks..... I remember that one
Trump was hampered by the fact that almost all of his choices for cabinet were either forced out or denied a hearing, in no small part due to the Russian Collusion Hoax that the GOP in congress was more than happy to play along with. That same GOP congress refused to take up any of his legislative issues save for yet another fucking corporate tax cut, because that's all the GOP establishment knows how to do these days.

Really, more than anything I suspect Trump's biggest problem is he had no idea how much of the actual power of the sovereign in American politics had been subsumed from the people to the Oligarchy. I mean, I could never imagine it, yet for four years we all bore witness as a man who undeniably legitimately won the 2016 election was denied treatment as the legitimate leader by every single power in Washington. And then we saw how those same powers used the events of 2020 to "fortify" him out of win and have since resorted to ever more drastic and heavy-handed measures against both Trump and his supporters while propping up an obvious puppet.

And it's for the above reasons why, despite his successes in Florida, I don't think DeSantis is qualified for the position of President. Because in his lackluster responses to the ever more absurd charges against Trump and his associates, DeSantis clearly does not understand the true extent of the crisis our Republic is facing.
 
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Who in their right mind would agree to serve in Trump's cabinet if he wins again? Who would even agree to be his VP? I can't see Vivek doing it and Desantis certainly wouldn't. MTG or Kari Lake?

What would be different in 2025 to accomplish his agenda than 2017? What agenda is he even running on?
 
Who in their right mind would agree to serve in Trump's cabinet if he wins again? Who would even agree to be his VP? I can't see Vivek doing it and Desantis certainly wouldn't. MTG or Kari Lake?
DeSantis would take that job in a nanosecond. He's a politician.
What would be different in 2025 to accomplish his agenda than 2017? What agenda is he even running on?
Two things: no re-election to worry about, and no need to play nice with the left or the RINOs. He doesn't have to have Congress pass any laws to clear out the FBI and the DOJ. Both are under the purview of the Executive Branch. The same with our military. So even if Trump doesn't get any laws passed, there is a ton of work he can accomplish as a start.

And, if literally nothing else, it will be a 4 year break from the President intentionally sabotaging our country.
 
DeSantis would take that job in a nanosecond. He's a politician.
Desantis is a pretty popular governor of a giant state, no way he quits that to be Trump's VP. Especially after what Trump has said about him the past few months. He basically accused him of being a pedo for fuck sake. Not to mention giving the Repubs in Congress a good excuse to remove him this time after he's impeached again a month after being inaugurated. Besides, what would that say about Trump if he offered it? He'd just be confirming that he's completely full of shit all of the time.

Two things: no re-election to worry about, and no need to play nice with the left or the RINOs. He doesn't have to have Congress pass any laws to clear out the FBI and the DOJ. Both are under the purview of the Executive Branch. The same with our military. So even if Trump doesn't get any laws passed, there is a ton of work he can accomplish as a start.
Drain the swamp you mean? That sure sounds familiar.
 
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Vivek's stated policies are great, until you realize he's a cowardly windsock who was for lockdowns and vax mandates before he was against them.
As for DeSantis, his personnel choices for his campaign demonstrate everything to me.
I've never seen anyone blow through the kind of political capital he has so quickly and nastily.
When you hire scumbags who post lefitst caricatures of Trump voters, use the same cancellation techniques SJW's do, and do nothing but call them cultists from dusk to dawn, that is what your administration will be.

The GOP are absolute scum who deserve to get Whigged into irrelevance for their treachery.
They deliberately threw the 2022 election, redirecting billions from winnable races across the country because the candidates were legitimately Trumpian, then, when they won the house despite this, McConnell turned around and gave Biden every dollar of funding he could to spit in the voters' faces.

Then comes the debt ceiling.
By now we have the DOJ going absolutely STASI, thousands of political prisoners, state level GOP being arrested, a man put in prison for memes using violations of judicial rights that go back to the MAGNA CARTA, and court cases demonstrating wholesale violation of core bill of rights of the majority of the country.
A real patriot speaker would have said "absolutely not one dime of debt ceiling increase, your regime deserves to burn for what it is doing".
Instead he bends us over again.

And now, having deliberately expended all leverage, we get to listen to them engage in obvious theatrics while the most popular president since Reagan is being indicted in a red state and they do nothing about it.

TBH I've had it up to here with these traitors and am willing to endure decades of communist rule just to stick it to them.
 
Most conservatives were for lockdowns when we thought it was just 2 weeks and before the riots happened and everyone realized the virus wasn't as bad as we thought. I don't know if you remember.
 
Vivisector RomneySmarmy is five foot seven inches tall. He brags about a 22 minute 5K time. Well, with a stride as short as his, maybe that's some kind of achievement? His voice is intolerably annoying. Indeed, his sloppy, drug-addled public speaking gives the impression that he takes helium and meth every morning and washes it down with klonopin at night.

RomneySmarmy is one of the worst candidates for the American Presidency that I can imagine. His unsuitability for any elected office is reinforced by the fact that he's not even a real American. He's a foreigner who comes from an inferior country with an inferior culture. He comes from a place where they shit in the streets. So you know what, he'd make a great mayor of San Francisco.

Most conservatives were for lockdowns when we thought it was just 2 weeks and before the riots happened and everyone realized the virus wasn't as bad as we thought. I don't know if you remember.
That large numbers of people wallowed in their retardation for a couple weeks in no way diminishes the extent of the retardation. No, it magnifies it. You are more retarded for going along with "most conservatives," not less. It shows there was not a drop of actual conservatism in any of you. "Oh yeah, let's just suspend the Constitution for two weeks because of a virus." How could anybody with a brain believe that the government wouldn't exploit such a thing?
 
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Most conservatives were for lockdowns when we thought it was just 2 weeks and before the riots happened and everyone realized the virus wasn't as bad as we thought. I don't know if you remember.
agreed I considered it reasonable to keep inside for a bit (which didn't impact me as much as it did a lot of normies) and wearing a mask out of concern for the elderly and the fog of war.

Once we were in late spring/early summer though it was becoming increasingly clear we might have overreacted, and then all bets were off it was just tyrants power tripping by the time of the saint floyd riots.

Now good luck ever getting me to have that naïve obedience/caution again. bubonic plague could be visibly tearing through my neighborhood now and my primary concern would be telling trust the soyence fags to go fuck themselves.
 
agreed I considered it reasonable to keep inside for a bit (which didn't impact me as much as it did a lot of normies) and wearing a mask out of concern for the elderly and the fog of war.

Once we were in late spring/early summer though it was becoming increasingly clear we might have overreacted, and then all bets were off it was just tyrants power tripping by the time of the saint floyd riots.

Now good luck ever getting me to have that naïve obedience/caution again. bubonic plague could be visibly tearing through my neighborhood now and my primary concern would be telling trust the soyence fags to go fuck themselves.
Back when it wasn't mandatory. Everyone who was right leaning decided to be considerate by their own choice. I think it was around mid July if I remember correctly when they started making everything mandatory (It depends where you live) and there has already been several crowds of BLM niggers when most reasonable people decided that it was all a farce.

Criticizing VIvek on his covid statement is a bit dishonest since most flip flopped on their position in 2020. I may be leaning on him for now but what I am concerned about and wished people confronted him on is his Pharma background. Pharmaceuticals in the US are more expensive than anywhere else and is the real medical issue in the USA, not private healthcare. I'm concerned if he will give pharmaceutical companies free reign to boost their prices another 300%, like how Ajit Pai removed net neutrality to increase his pay from Verizon.
 
I'd seriously recommend giving Vivek's campaign platform a look. It is incredibly based. I was going to pull out some highlights, but the whole thing is great. The media has been treating him as an amusing sideshow so far, but his polling numbers are approaching DeSantis and a good debate performance could easily bump him into second place.
Yeah I've heard him speak and he's pretty damn sharp. He's young but that's not a deal breaker. Let's see how he goes.
Who in their right mind would agree to serve in Trump's cabinet if he wins again? Who would even agree to be his VP? I can't see Vivek doing it and Desantis certainly wouldn't. MTG or Kari Lake?

What would be different in 2025 to accomplish his agenda than 2017? What agenda is he even running on?
Exactly, it's revenge and ... What else exactly? Trump is great at riling up crowds, I've personally seen him do it. However, he's bad at partial policies and direction beyond general statements excepting certain immigration orders and border security.

The world has changed a lot in the last 6.5 years, I want to see that he understands that.
 
Who in their right mind would agree to serve in Trump's cabinet if he wins again?
The punished pillow man.
At this point anyone who works with him is going to be literally just ride or die people or saboteurs. The ones who backstabbed to save themselves are getting punished so becoming a turncoat won't be a viable self preservation tactic anymore especially for those with aspirations to have a career in politics(those types of people should be shot, you're running a nation and you treat it as just a job).
 
I don't usually talk like this, but you Vivek people are absolutely ill informed and clearly do not have proper experience with the Indian menace.

What part of "no pajeets ever" is unclear? How many times must you people hear stories of how Indians, especially high caste Indians, go fully mask off and nepotist the very second they get enough power to do so? Chinese do the same exact shit, by the way, so also No Chinks Ever.

They will say and do anything to appear based and reasonable, but it's all a front. It's not like they have to actually follow their election platform once they get in.
 
The punished pillow man.
At this point anyone who works with him is going to be literally just ride or die people or saboteurs. The ones who backstabbed to save themselves are getting punished so becoming a turncoat won't be a viable self preservation tactic anymore especially for those with aspirations to have a career in politics(those types of people should be shot, you're running a nation and you treat it as just a job).
I'd love to know how much PillowMan has been scammed for since the election. I've heard from people who would know that those "packet captures" from the guy who no-showed his big event last year got him for north of $250k. I feel sorry for him really, he does mean well.

They will say and do anything to appear based and reasonable, but it's all a front. It's not like they have to actually follow their election platform once they get in.
You just described what all national American politics have devolved into and everyone who has run for elected federal office for the past 70 years. What was your point again besides Brown Man Bad? Not orange enough? Maybe squint a bit?
 
I don't usually talk like this, but you Vivek people are absolutely ill informed and clearly do not have proper experience with the Indian menace.

What part of "no pajeets ever" is unclear? How many times must you people hear stories of how Indians, especially high caste Indians, go fully mask off and nepotist the very second they get enough power to do so? Chinese do the same exact shit, by the way, so also No Chinks Ever.

They will say and do anything to appear based and reasonable, but it's all a front. It's not like they have to actually follow their election platform once they get in.
I get where you are coming from. There are definitely common issues among Indian immigrants that I have seen first-hand in the US, from shockingly bad academic integrity issues to nepotistic hiring practices. There seems to be a lifelong effect from growing up in an environment where cheating is normalized, corruption and bribery are accepted, and you are born into a literal caste system.

To be fair though, I have seen far fewer of those issues in 2nd/3rd gen Indian immigrants. Vivek was born in the US, and his entire education and business career happened here. He talks a good game, but we don't know what he will do when he gets into office. We saw that with Trump (what did he actually accomplish besides a tax cut for the rich?) and it's a big risk with DeSantis (his campaign is bankrolled by megadonors). What allays my concern somewhat is that Vivek is at least bankrolling his own campaign, and is staking out very firm commitments to accomplish goals that can be done purely through executive branch authority. If he fails to deliver on those promises (eg. DOJ, FBI, and other regulatory agency reform/dismantlement) he will have no possible excuses for his base, and he will go down as a one-term failure of a president.

Vivek is clearly a smart guy, and while I don't trust him, I do trust him to act in his own self-interest. The guy is 38, if he turns on his own base he will be a pariah at 42 and never let anywhere near power or influence again. Meanwhile if he delivers on even half of what he promises, Republicans will hail him as the second coming of Reagan.
 
If Trump is the nominee the dems will win. About every zoomer 8/10 I know will not vote for trump same with woman and there are less and less boomers every year since 2016. I feel America was well on its way to become a leftist nation just the boomers were the last lock on the door. Idk were you can move to every other county is going the same path or third world shit hole.
 
Ah, Trump can't win, that's why even leftist polls now show him winning the national popular vote by between 1% and 4%.
Mind you the polls in question are propaganda ops. They do NOT want to report this.
The more realistic pollsters like Baris show Biden losing in the same electoral landslide clinton did, but only if Trump is the nominee, because the rust belt will never, EVER vote for chinese sellouts like McLeadership.

"But muh zoomers"
Zoomers have watched every bill from rent to groceries double under this couped-in dotard.
They're getting a fat pimp-slap tier lesson in the consequences of their stupidity, and the men have shifted rightward to the point they are majority right-aligned.
 
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