Baldur's Gate III Announced - ...and it's coming to Google Stadia and PC

[Maude Snew]

Games about alien brain sucking squid monster flying around on giant space kraken monster and yet the biggest alien horrors beyond comprehension are literally everything else. What a time to be alive, what a world to live in.

 

[Mega Black]

These people are control freaks. They can't stand people not having the same views as them so they try to control how they play a game. I find it to be very silly. You can't control how gamers play. Especially when mods and homebrew exists. You might as well piss in the wind.

I don't think that's really the case with Larian at all. I think they just want to have you play the game as a fixed character, which is fine for most RPGs, but realize that not having custom characters in a fucking tabletop simulator is going to kill it for a lot of people.

So it's there, but only insofar as it's kind of discouraged by not letting you get to experience the full breadth of content. It's just more of their retarded design that I don't get.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

Personally, from what I've seen, the writing feels very meta and immature.

Have you played the early access? I haven't, but the marketing for Larian is always light hearted and jokey. DOS2 despite having very dark themes at times was very jovial leading up to its release.

They've also said that the game gets very dark, which I tend to believe. When I think "Larian Studios" I think Swen who is very publically a rather Jovial guy, but you look at something where he's more toned down like his recent interview on Dropped Frames and the way he acts doesn't give me the vibe he nor his studio are particularly interested in lighthearted storytelling where it doesn't work.

 

[PaladinBoo]

Have you played the early access? I haven't, but the marketing for Larian is always light hearted and jokey. DOS2 despite having very dark themes at times was very jovial leading up to its release.

They've also said that the game gets very dark, which I tend to believe. When I think "Larian Studios" I think Swen who is very publically a rather Jovial guy, but you look at something where he's more toned down like his recent interview on Dropped Frames and the way he acts doesn't give me the vibe he nor his studio are particularly interested in lighthearted storytelling where it doesn't work.

If that is the case then all those women and queers who I talked about in my earlier posts are going to be in for a rude shock once they play the game. Those two demographics wanted a lighthearted Critical Role style adventure with romance, witty banter, meta humor and shipping. The marketing for this game may it appear to be just that. If the game is going to be as dark as you say than I'm going to look forward to the whining that is going to appear on Twitter and RetardEra.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

I really not sure how people can claim "actions don't matter", "story sucks" when the entire EA as literally been act 1. Is there something I'm missing? Has later game content been leaked?

As for "fixed character = control freaks""...lol, someone has literally never played a JRPG. It's just a different way of conveying a story.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

If that is the case then all those women and queers who I talked about in my earlier posts are going to be in for a rude shock once they play the game. Those two demographics wanted a lighthearted Critical Role style adventure with romance, witty banter, meta humor and shipping. If the game is going to be as dark as you say than I'm going to look forward to the whining that is going to appear on Twitter and RetardEra.

I have a theory on that actually, so here's my tin foil hattery for the day.

The game isn't going to be as degenerate as places like Polygon nor Kotaku would like. It might be a little edgy with shit like Druid Bear Sex but lets face it, that's been a thing ERPers do in World of Warcraft since like 2003. Its not new, the only reason anyone even gives a shit is because Larian in a sense acknowledged the meme.

However before launch the typical places, Polygon, Reset Era, Kotaku are gonna go on and on about the degenerate shit you can get up to. Its going to intentionally try to alienate normal people as much as possible to blackpill them from the game and appeal to coomers. Then when the game drops if it has ANY bugs or Glitches at all, Polygon, Kotaku, Reset era, Forbes, etc. are going to instantly turn on the game for not being progressive enough and being a "bug riddled mess".

You'll think its the second coming of Cyberpunk 2077, which they did a very similar thing to. The only defense Larian will really have against this is for the game to release in a damn near perfect state so that they can avoid that criticism.

In Cyberpunk's case, their release made them the perfect targets for it and CDPR's reputation is still scrutinized to this day over it. Its important to remember that the two biggest Indie Devs in gaming are CDPR and Larian and both have (or had in CDPR's case) a reputation for pushing the envelope of what was possible in gaming.

By alienating their fan bases, by destroying their reputation, and by relying on the fact that normies in gaming these days can't understand that its impossible to patch out every bug in a complex enough game, they force people to either pirate, not play, or only have access to AAA Nigger Cattle titles, which they ultimately profit from.

 

[PaladinBoo]

As for "fixed character = control freaks""...lol, someone has literally never played a JRPG. It's just a different way of conveying a story.

That is the problem with Larian and Baldur's Gate 3. The Baldur's Gate series is suppose to be a tabletop simulator not a JRPG. The earlier games allowed you to customize your character just like you would for a TTRPG session. Larian is just bad when it comes to allowing players to customize their character and allow players to make a character theirs.

By alienating their fan bases, by destroying their reputation, and by relying on the fact that normies in gaming these days can't understand that its impossible to patch out every bug in a complex enough game, they force people to either pirate, not play, or only have access to AAA Nigger Cattle titles, which they ultimately profit from.

Your theory does have some weight given that many AAA publishers have been attacking Larian recently. It would make sense that they don't want an indie studio to succeed as most are owned by either Microsoft or Sony nowadays and this game is a PC and Sony exclusive.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

That is the problem with Larian and Baldur's Gate 3. The Baldur's Gate series is a tabletop simulator not a JRPG. The earlier games allowed you to customize your character just like you would for a TTRPG session. Larian is just bad when it comes to allowing players to customize their character and allow players to make a character theirs.

Idk. I've played too many JRPGs to care. I don't see these games as "tabletop sims", or people wouldn't throw the biggest fit about being turn based which is closer to tabletop than rtwp ever was.

Whatever, I've had to watch Fallout get bastardized and everybody cheer about it. No tears shed here if the game turns out to be good.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

Your theory does have some weight given that many AAA publishers have been attacking Larian recently. It would make sense that they don't want an indie studio to succeed as most are owned by either Microsoft or Sony nowadays and this game is a PC and Sony exclusive.

I remember very strongly feeling that way after playing Cyberpunk 2077. When that game came out I had upgraded my PC to play it and only encountered some graphical bugs from time to time. I think my fiance had like one quest bug out. Because of when CDPR came out I was able to at the last minute get that week and the following week off for vacation (I hadn't taken vacation that year due to COVID making it pointless and my boss preferred to give me most of the holiday season off instead of having to pay me for my vacation time).

After a week of playing I beat the game and went online to find out it was getting slaughtered in the media. They'd been circling it like wolves for weeks before launch, but post launch it had become a blood bath. I remember feeling like the reporting was so incongruent to what I, and anyone else I knew had experienced.

To this fucking day, 2 months away from Phantom Liberty, all the news about CDPR and Cyberpunk is extremely negative. It really makes me think the point was never about the game. The point is and always will be destroying Independent Developers who are better at what they do than the Corps are.

 

[Male Idiot]

Kind of reminds me of the swtor lady beard/nappy nog hair update.

Which months later, I yet to run into a bearded lady, though I have seen some odd green noglocks on the occasional dungeon random team members. And yeah, Trawn looks retarded with green niglocks.

And this is a single player game, so we'll yet see how much shit is avoidable and how much is forced in your face.

The lack of facial customisation is a bigger issue than Yogie's boner or futas. That will impact you 100%, no matter how you play.

Cyberpunk didn't bug out on me. I think it just really needed a strong pc.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

To this fucking day, 2 months away from Phantom Liberty, all the news about CDPR and Cyberpunk is extremely negative. It really makes me think the point was never about the game. The point is and always will be destroying Independent Developers who are better at what they do than the Corps are.

Tbf CP2077 had some major issues that did vary a lot from person to person. Especially hardware.

It doesn't help that it was hyped up to be the biggest rpg EVAH, pushed back a bunch, then released in a pretty shoddy state for a significant portion of people.

 

[PaladinBoo]

Whatever, I've had to watch Fallout get bastardized and everybody cheer about it. No tears shed here if the game turns out to be good.

Please don't bring up such sad memories. What happened to Fallout should be considered a crime against humanity. It broke my heart to see what happened to that series. As for Baldur's Gate 3, either the fans hyping the game will be right in that it is a RPG masterpiece or the detractors will be right in that it is a degenerate fetish buffet. We'll know in a few weeks but so far the EA hasn't made me hyped for the game as the trailers did.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

What happened to Fallout should be considered a crime against humanity.

Fallout is Bethesda's step kid. Sure they love it, but they don't really get it the way they get Elder Scrolls or probably Starfield.

As for Baldur's Gate 3, either the fans hyping the game will be right in that it is a RPG masterpiece or the detractors will be right in that it is a degenerate fetish buffet.

I think the truth'll be somewhere in the Middle. Fort Joy in DoS2 is masterful and its where the most criticism and work was done in EA. Act 2 and 3 in particular however, felt amaturish by comparison.

For me I think the real question of how good the game will be is going to come down to, did they find away to make subsequent acts as strong as their opening where they've had years of player feedback?

 

[Male Idiot]

Hype is dangerous. Cyberpunk was an okay game. Mediocre.

I think it will be a middling game with rather nice graphics for its genre, but nothing really stunning or objectively horrid.

It definately won't dethrone Gollum or be the next Borderlands. It is just marketing vibing it up as this big HAPPENING when its not. Don't trust journos, you will be dissapointed less.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

Kind of reminds me of the swtor lady beard/nappy nog hair update.

Spoiler: Offtopic about fugly nigress from SWTOR

BioFail are pozzed. They added planet from KotOR 2. And that fugly nappy hair sidecut gorilla looking nigger. Take every stereotype about how manly nigresses are and you will get how she looks. Worst of all, these soy guzzling niggerloving faggots put that creature to fucking loading screen, so every time you launch the game or load area from new content - you will see that monkey looking cunt. And she is a quip spewing girlboss cunt, believe me. Imperial side is on par. So it's a lose-lose

 

[Estate]

That is a good question. I suppose a good story to me is a story where the stakes matter and the characters take the world with some hints of seriousness. The OG Baldur's Gate are good examples. Sure, some of the characters would make a joke here or there but the characters of that game took the world seriously and the stakes in that game mattered in the grand scheme of things. Not to say every story should be like this, especially if it is a satire. As C.S Lewis once stated; "Not every good story needs to have a point."

However, this is a sequel to a franchise that took itself seriously in the past. Other games based in the Forgotten Realms did as well. Sure, there are jokes to lighten the mood but the characters took the world seriously, the stakes mattered and the villain is intimating. Personally, from what I've seen, the writing feels very meta and immature. The characters all act like they are in on the joke. The world isn't taken seriously and the stakes, which should feel high, feel low. I know you said before that you feel that calling something Reddit is overused so I think a better thing to say is that this game, to me at least, feels like every other piece of entertainment that has been geared at adults for the past decade.

Ok, I understand where you're coming from. Thanks for answering that. My own standards differ quite a bit, but since this is not a book fag thread, I won't go into those details unless asked for it.
In regards to Baldur Gate 3, you may be right in the end, but since the game's not out yet and I only played the first Act for like 3-4h deep (albeit with multiple characters), we will have to postpone final judgement until such a time when we can definitively say if it's either based or r*ddit faggotry.

I am a snob so I prefer my games not to look like ass. Pixel indie superbased isn't an excuse to put the merest minimum into graphics, neither is quirky and whimsical and progressive.

You -can- make less realistic graphics work totally fine but it isn't easy. Boltgun and Cuphead are neither photorealistic 4k stuff, but they got their own style.

I am also worried that the plot will be all "remove parasite" instead of any well... adventure. Go to X, ask healer Y, rinse and repeat. It is like a story about getting the money to pay your rent.

Usually when you do this, its okey as the first act, but not the entire story. You want to gain something, to do a notable deed. It is what video games give you, the ability to do something you can never do in real life. Not running from doctor to doctor to get a brain tumor removed.

I'm also a graphics snob, so I get this. These dev assholes should be held to a certain standard and they should be slapped for trying to be cutesy with retro and pixelated graphics.
For the plot, the parasite is the impetus for which the party members band together and travel. I won't spoil stuff, but the more you try to cure yourself, the more you learn about it's peculiar circumstances and you get more and more involved in an over-arching story.

Have you played the early access? I haven't, but the marketing for Larian is always light hearted and jokey. DOS2 despite having very dark themes at times was very jovial leading up to its release.

They've also said that the game gets very dark, which I tend to believe. When I think "Larian Studios" I think Swen who is very publically a rather Jovial guy, but you look at something where he's more toned down like his recent interview on Dropped Frames and the way he acts doesn't give me the vibe he nor his studio are particularly interested in lighthearted storytelling where it doesn't work.

It's hard to do marketing with forced slavery, genocide, racism, cannibalism, child kidnapping and torture.
And yes, I'm telling you what I found in Early Access.
There are moments, where if you break from the "this is just a game" mindset and take a moment to consider, you end up thinking "you know, this is kind of fucked up what the hell". A quick example, that's early and very minor spoiler, is if you have Speak with Animals and you kill an Owlbear mother, you talk with the kid who says it's sad, then says it's hungry, then starts eating his dead mother. I honestly was like "wtf nigga". Imagine if that scene was marketed instead of le funny r*ddit bear sex.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

It's hard to do marketing with forced slavery, genocide, racism, cannibalism, child kidnapping and torture.
And yes, I'm telling you what I found in Early Access.
There are moments, where if you break from the "this is just a game" mindset and take a moment to consider, you end up thinking "you know, this is kind of fucked up what the hell"

That's not totally surprising. For all the jokes and odd humor in DoS2, Act I literally takes place in a death camp equipped with its own Dr. Mingele.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

That's not totally surprising. For all the jokes and odd humor in DoS2, Act I literally takes place in a death camp equipped with its own Dr. Mingele.

And elves literally eat corpses.

 

[rareblacklobster]

As for "fixed character = control freaks""...lol, someone has literally never played a JRPG.

JRPGs aren't RPGs.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

JRPGs aren't RPGs.

Thanks for that wonderful insight.