Disaster NHS child gender clinic reveals how staff ‘regret’ routinely referring under-16s for puberty blockers

Tavistock scandal ‘on a par with East German doping of athletes’​


New book on NHS child gender clinic reveals how staff ‘regret’ routinely referring under-16s for puberty blockers​

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Glen Keogh
Saturday February 11 2023, 6.00pm GMT, The Sunday Times
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More than 1,000 children were referred for puberty blockers at an experimental gender clinic where concerns were ignored to preserve a “gold dust” NHS contract, a new book claims.
Former clinicians at the Gender Identity Development Service (Gids), part of the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust in London, have detailed how some “incredibly complex” children were placed on medication after one face-to-face assessment, despite many having a variety of mental health or family background problems.
More than a third of young people referred to the service had moderate to severe autistic traits, compared with fewer than 2 per cent of children in the general population. Some identified not just as a different gender, but a different ethnic background, such as Japanese or Korean. One young person had “three different alter egos, two of whom spoke in an Australian accent”.

In the book, former clinicians at the Gids service speak for the first time in detail of their “regret” about the practice of routinely referring under-16s for puberty-blocking and cross-hormone treatment with no concrete data on the long-term effects. They compare it to the Mid Staffs hospital scandal of the 2000s and the doping of East German athletes in the 1960s and 1970s.
The claims come in Time to Think: The Inside Story of the Collapse of the Tavistock’s Gender Service for Children by Hannah Barnes, which will be released this month.
Barnes, a BBC Newsnight journalist, spoke to dozens of clinicians who worked at Gids, governors at the trust and children and their parents who used the service.
She details how:
• Children as young as three, already living as the opposite gender with a changed name, appearance and pronouns, were referred to the service.
• The clinic accounted for almost 30 per cent of the Tavistock NHS Trust’s income by 2021 and staff said it resembled a “tech start-up” with regular trips to international conferences.
• In 2016, Susie Green, former head of the pro-trans charity Mermaids, emailed Dr Polly Carmichael, who was then the head of Gids, asking to cut the time children had to spend on puberty blockers before irreversible cross-sex hormones could be introduced.
• Staff raised concerns when, on behalf of families, Green requested children’s clinicians to be changed to someone believed to be more likely to prescribe hormones.
• In her first interview since winning an employment tribunal case after she raised concerns about the safety of children, the trust’s head of safeguarding, Sonia Appleby, said anyone who spoke out was “demonised”.
• Former therapists involved in prescribing puberty blockers now admit they do not know “how many children [have since] changed their mind” on transitioning.
Hannah Barnes’s book on the Tavistock is published this month

Hannah Barnes’s book on the Tavistock is published this month
JON ATTENBOROUGH FOR THE SUNDAY TIMES MAGAZINE
Founded in 1989, Gids, formerly the UK’s only dedicated gender identity clinic for children and young people, was told to shut last year after an independent review led by Dr Hilary Cass concluded that young people were left at “considerable risk” of poor mental health and distress. A Care Quality Commission report had rated the service “inadequate” and criticised its record-keeping.
Data shows 354 children under 16 consented to puberty blockers at University College London Hospital Trust and Leeds Children’s Hospital between 2012 and 2021 after being seen by therapists and psychologists at the clinic. Between 2009 and 2017, 1,261 children and teenagers were referred for medical intervention. Gids said the “vast majority” were prescribed the blocker.
After initially treating just a handful of patients each year, referrals to Gids increased dramatically. In 2009-10 it received 97. By 2019-20 it received 2,748 — a rise of more than 2,700 per cent. The youngest child known to have been referred to endocrinologists at the University College London Hospital Trust was seven. The child was later treated privately.
The numbers far exceeded what had been planned for and many staff members felt overwhelmed.
Therapists who worked at the clinic have spoken of staff trying to do the best for young people but assessments quickly began to feel rushed. A number of young people have reported that they felt Gids staff listened to them and have spoken positively of their treatment there.
But Dr Anna Hutchinson, a senior clinical psychologist at Gids, said the service was soon “accepting everyone”. She said puberty blockers were supposed to be prescribed to children to give them “time to think” about whether they wanted to transition fully, but she realised that almost all went on to take cross-sex hormones, such as testosterone and oestrogen, which have irreversible consequences.
Hutchinson told Barnes this was a “holy f***” moment. “It totally exploded the idea that when we were offering the puberty blockers, we were actually offering time to think,” she said.
“Because what are the chances of 100 per cent of people, offered time to think, thinking the same thing? If the service was getting this wrong, it was getting it wrong with some of the most vulnerable children and young people.”
She now believes that “some of those kids would not have identified as trans had they not been put on the medical pathway”.
“Of course, that doesn’t mean to say that identifying as trans is a bad outcome,” she said. “But what is a bad outcome is creating a cohort of people who are medically dependent who’d never needed to be. And not only medically dependent, but perhaps — we don’t yet know — medically damaged.”
She describes the service as “scandalous in its negligence and scale”.
In 2011, Gids began an “early intervention” study in which 44 patients aged 12 to 15 took part to see the longer-term effects of puberty blockers. But in April 2014 the practice of prescribing blockers to under-16s was introduced across the service before the data on their effects was available. A lower age limit of 12 was removed as Gids relied on a “stage, not age” approach based on where a child was in their development.
There are concerns about whether puberty blockers “temporarily or permanently” disrupt the development of children’s brains, as well as potentially stunting growth and affecting bone strength. Little is known about the long-term side effects.
Anastassis Spiliadis, a family therapist, told Barnes of the impact of outside groups, and parents, on decisions to refer often vulnerable children for puberty blockers.
He said in his four years at the service, on two occasions he decided that children from complex family set-ups and backgrounds should not be placed on blockers. However, the families complained and “both ended up on the blocker”.
Parents who complained were referred to “clinicians who we all knew it was much easier to get on hormones through them, rather than other clinicians”, he said.
There were also concerns that parents were pushing children into transitioning, in cases of fabricated or induced illness (FII), previously known as Munchausen’s syndrome by proxy.
In one case, he said, the child told him, “my mum wants this for me”, or “my mum wants the blocker more than I do”. He said there was sexual abuse and domestic violence in the family and he and a colleague agreed that they would not be putting the young person forward for puberty blockers. However, this decision was allegedly overruled by Carmichael.
On other occasions a change in clinician would be requested by Green, the Mermaids chief, Spiliadis said.
“I remember thinking and talking to Paul [Jenkins, the Tavistock chief] and saying that this is really inappropriate — how come a person who’s the director, or the CEO of a charity, is entitled to request a change of clinicians on behalf of a family?”
On his time at Gids, Spiliadis added: “We’re like, ‘Oh my God, will we look back in ten, 20 years and be like, what did we do?’”
Matt Bristow, a former Gids clinician, added: “Despite the obvious complexity of all these cases — sexual abuse, trauma, potential FII — the answer was always the same. That the young people eventually get put on the blocker unless they themselves say they don’t want it.”
Whistleblowers also allege the clinic, which treated under-18s suffering from gender dysphoria, was “institutionally homophobic” and bowed to pressure from parents who preferred their children to be transgender rather than gay. When homosexual clinicians raised concerns it was becoming a “conversion therapy for gay kids”, they were ignored because they were deemed subjective, it is claimed.
Barnes’s book refers to the financial benefits the Gids service brought to the Tavistock trust at a time when NHS services were under immense financial pressure.
Dr David Bell, a psychiatrist and former staff governor at the trust who wrote a critical report on the service in 2019 after being approached by a number of concerned employees, said the Gids national contract with the NHS — where it did not have to compete with another service — was “gold dust”.
Dr David Bell said concerns were kept quiet because of Gids’s financial benefits

Dr David Bell said concerns were kept quiet because of Gids’s financial benefits
ANTONIO OLMOS/THE GUARDIAN
“Bell argued that knowledge of Gids’s economic importance had made it difficult for those with legitimate criticisms to raise them,” Barnes writes.
Spiliadis added that, after not even having an office when he arrived, Gids “eventually took over a whole floor”. “But because it was bringing in so much money they [senior trust staff] could not challenge it,” he added.
Hutchinson said that with high pay, trips to transgender conferences in Europe and as far afield as Buenos Aires, the culture of Gids “more closely resembled a tech start-up than the NHS”.
As well as criticisms, a 2019 review by the medical director, Dinesh Sinha, following Bell’s report also heard positive testimony from staff members, who said they did not see any problems with Gids’ safeguarding practices.
But Sinha did not raise concerns passed to him during the course of his review with Appleby, the safeguarding head. When she finally saw the transcripts she said it was not only a “tragedy for the patients involved” but a “tragedy for the organisation — that so many of these narratives had been muzzled, and the people who had raised these concerns were demonised”.
Bristow said Sinha’s report was a “whitewash”.
The Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust said: “Gids works on a case-by-case basis with every young person and their family, working thoughtfully and holistically with them to explore their situation, with no expectation of what the right outcome for them might be. Only the minority of young people seen in the service are referred for any physical interventions. At the Tavistock and Portman we wholeheartedly support our staff to raise concerns, and have recently strengthened our mechanisms for doing so. Concerns relating to young people’s wellbeing are taken seriously and investigated.”
The Tavistock said it had records of only one patient being referred for medical intervention after one assessment and this person had gone through a detailed assessment at another gender service.
Mermaids declined to comment.

 
Yeah I don't get how people think this kinda stuff is bad.

"NOOOO THE HECCIN EVIL DOCTERINOS WHO TROON KIDS OUT AREN'T ALLOWED TO REGRET IT NOOOOO THEY'RE ALL EVIL EVIL EVIL!!! THEY MUST KEEP TROONING KIDS OUT SO I CAN FEEL LIKE I'M FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT BY POSTING SNARKY COMMENTS ONLINE!!!"
 
LMAO more like "we regret the very real possibility of ending in jail and our money seized over the crimes against humanity we committed"
an experimental gender clinic where concerns were ignored to preserve a “gold dust” NHS contract, a new book claims.
Told you all it was about the money, theres no "moloch" or other schizo bullshit, its all about getting people hooked on expensive surgery and drugs for life.
One young person had “three different alter egos, two of whom spoke in an Australian accent”.
Isn't it super easy to get someone in the madhouse over in britcuckistan? I heard even your friends can get you committed.

And yet this person was free and allowed to undergo dangerous selective surgery.
The clinic accounted for almost 30 per cent of the Tavistock NHS Trust’s income by 2021 and staff said it resembled a “tech start-up” with regular trips to international conferences
“Bell argued that knowledge of Gids’s economic importance had made it difficult for those with legitimate criticisms to raise them,” Barnes writes.
Spiliadis added that, after not even having an office when he arrived, Gids “eventually took over a whole floor”. “But because it was bringing in so much money they [senior trust staff] could not challenge it,”
There were also concerns that parents were pushing children into transitioning, in cases of fabricated or induced illness (FII), previously known as Munchausen’s syndrome by proxy.
In one case, he said, the child told him, “my mum wants this for me”, or “my mum wants the blocker more than I do”.
I seen kids taken from their parents over political opinions, but this is okay.
Whistleblowers also allege the clinic, which treated under-18s suffering from gender dysphoria, was “institutionally homophobic” and bowed to pressure from parents who preferred their children to be transgender rather than gay. When homosexual clinicians raised concerns it was becoming a “conversion therapy for gay kids”, they were ignored because they were deemed subjective, it is claimed.
Only muslims do this.
'Regrets' don't put breasts back on chests.
Easier to get convincing fake tits than your dick back tho.
 
Hey guys! I know that we are not currently in any kind of a position to be lining people up and shooting them over things like this, but instead of talking about this topic and these people reporting their regrets from the inside of this bad business I'd really appreciate it if we could just argue about whether or not these particular people belong 'on the wall' when we start shooting people, which is apparently going to happen sometime next week or something!

Thanks!
 
So you want to win, or do you more want to boast about being right?
It’s an issue of finding this pure evil since it began, knowing that some of the people recanting have learned nothing, and wanting to be heckin’ validated for your beliefs being right in the end.

To some level these people disgust me. It should be clear as day that gender transition doesn’t work. Excluding the surgery, the entire treatment is retarded. It’d be like the guy who agrees fully with the Nazi party, joins the SS, and reports his Catholic Trade Union neighbors for protecting Jews crying that he didn’t mean it.
 
Told you all it was about the money, theres no "moloch" or other schizo bullshit, its all about getting people hooked on expensive surgery and drugs for life.
If a catholic priest pays off a policeman or parent to look the other way after he molested an altar boy, that isn't proof the entire project is money driven. That's just the grease for the gears.
 
The dumbest part of all this is how it's mostly girls now doing the early trans thing. Testosterone masculinizes the fuck out of people, regardless of age. If some 20 year old woman wants to play at being a man, she can cut her tits off and push test and she will be masculinized no different from some kid who never went through female puberty.
 
Yeah I don't get how people think this kinda stuff is bad.

"NOOOO THE HECCIN EVIL DOCTERINOS WHO TROON KIDS OUT AREN'T ALLOWED TO REGRET IT NOOOOO THEY'RE ALL EVIL EVIL EVIL!!! THEY MUST KEEP TROONING KIDS OUT SO I CAN FEEL LIKE I'M FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT BY POSTING SNARKY COMMENTS ONLINE!!!"
A reasonable and sane person doesn't chop a girls tits off in the first place.
 
We will look back institutions that practised this child mutilation with the same sense horror that we look upon those who practised lobotomies.

History will vilify these pedophiles and bury their names in horror as monsters and abusers.
 
In one case, he said, the child told him, “my mum wants this for me”, or “my mum wants the blocker more than I do”. He said there was sexual abuse and domestic violence in the family and he and a colleague agreed that they would not be putting the young person forward for puberty blockers. However, this decision was allegedly overruled by Carmichael.
I feel an indescribable sense of rage
 
This movement can only operate in the shadows. But once they get exposed, they then demand to be accepted regardless.

"Yes you found our dirty little secret; that the medical treatment is run by money grubbers. But you still need to support it allies."
 
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