Social Media Bodybuilders/Fitness Drama - You Mirin?

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And in saying that no I don't think his IQ is low, he's just got some bad shit going on inside his noggin' and he's losing it.
 
Is this necroposting? Whatever.

Philion seems to have completly abadonned the fitness content after he shit the bed, floor, walls and ceiling with his Noel Dyezler video.

His last three videos have been really try hard, over edited exposes. Though they're getting dick for views so i doubt he'll keep at it since i assume he either spend time or money to edit those videos as much.

I think he might try to make a comeback to fitness content though since that's where he got most of his views and subs and has been stagnating since he moved away from it.
 
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I did a quick search and it looks like nobody on the farms has spoken on the recent reveal about Leo And Longevity, and it's a shame because it is actually really funny. A request for a domestic violence restraining order was filed by his wife (whom he has a child with) and all his insane, narcissistic, abusive text messages are available in the document (here)

Quick video summary:

He explodes at his wife because he couldn't find the milk placed at the back of the fridge
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I especially like how he talks about his relationship with Derek (More Plates More Dates), and how he's already out-alpha'd him in private and it's only a matter of time until he overtakes him on the youtubes as well. That's a real sigma grindset right there. just show absolutely no respect to people who treat you with kindness and go out of their way to help you grow your channel.
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He hasn't uploaded for a month because of this, and pretty much everyone in his audience, and all his friends and people who collaborated with him now know about this, so we can assume his channel is basically over.
 
I did a quick search and it looks like nobody on the farms has spoken on the recent reveal about Leo And Longevity, and it's a shame because it is actually really funny. A request for a domestic violence restraining order was filed by his wife (whom he has a child with) and all his insane, narcissistic, abusive text messages are available in the document (here)

Quick video summary:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=M_ruIgnxffA
He explodes at his wife because he couldn't find the milk placed at the back of the fridge
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I especially like how he talks about his relationship with Derek (More Plates More Dates), and how he's already out-alpha'd him in private and it's only a matter of time until he overtakes him on the youtubes as well. That's a real sigma grindset right there. just show absolutely no respect to people who treat you with kindness and go out of their way to help you grow your channel.
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He hasn't uploaded for a month because of this, and pretty much everyone in his audience, and all his friends and people who collaborated with him now know about this, so we can assume his channel is basically over.
I was thinking of posting about it, but I thought it wasn’t interesting enough for most people here as he’s pretty obscure outside of the community, however there’s some stuff I can add.
He made a now deleted video where he tries to explain and downplay everything, and his wife also made a clip for the video where she just says that they got over it.
I have my own personal theories about everything that went down, and I think the truth is more in the middle than we may think. Though I am also sure Leo did some bad things here with Luci. I believe that he was drinking, not to hallucination though, and that both Leo and Luci were fighting each other, not that that makes it ok.
However, all that aside, we all know he’s an ex con.
One case
Some other case
Basically, corporal injury to a spouse/cohabitant (domestic abuse), false imprisonment, witness intimidation, threatening death or bodily injury, ans probably some other stuff that idk I’m not a law.
He has said that he was falsely accused of the case with the woman, and frankly I don’t really care. I watched him for Boston anyways.
I do also know that Leo at least had some input on the new Gorilla Mind product, a testosterone booster called “Sigma”, and that while Derek hasn’t said anything about the drama Steve has been pruning his comments of people who ask, after saying not to trust everything you see online.
I’m still kind of waiting to see what comes of this, but that’s what I got for now.
 
I was thinking of posting about it, but I thought it wasn’t interesting enough for most people here as he’s pretty obscure outside of the community, however there’s some stuff I can add.
He made a now deleted video where he tries to explain and downplay everything, and his wife also made a clip for the video where she just says that they got over it.
I have my own personal theories about everything that went down, and I think the truth is more in the middle than we may think. Though I am also sure Leo did some bad things here with Luci. I believe that he was drinking, not to hallucination though, and that both Leo and Luci were fighting each other, not that that makes it ok.
However, all that aside, we all know he’s an ex con.
One case
Some other case
Basically, corporal injury to a spouse/cohabitant (domestic abuse), false imprisonment, witness intimidation, threatening death or bodily injury, ans probably some other stuff that idk I’m not a law.
He has said that he was falsely accused of the case with the woman, and frankly I don’t really care. I watched him for Boston anyways.
I do also know that Leo at least had some input on the new Gorilla Mind product, a testosterone booster called “Sigma”, and that while Derek hasn’t said anything about the drama Steve has been pruning his comments of people who ask, after saying not to trust everything you see online.
I’m still kind of waiting to see what comes of this, but that’s what I got for now.
Yeah I was probably a bit hasty to say that, it probably isn't quite over yet. I would be interested to hear more from either Derek or Steve but I guess they probably just want to avoid anything to do with it.
 
Yeah I was probably a bit hasty to say that, it probably isn't quite over yet. I would be interested to hear more from either Derek or Steve but I guess they probably just want to avoid anything to do with it.
There is reason to believe that there is more to this than we may think.
His Reddit, that he modded, got hacked by an unknown guy who basically just posted the docs, stirred shit up, and then the whole Reddit got deleted.
We know that Leo has made enemies with some real weirdos from the bodybuilding industry, and it wouldn’t be surprising if someone like that had it out for him.
What I think will happen is that he will wait until he comes back from Europe, visiting family, and then try to continue business as usual. And if Derek and Steve believe his side of things, I would expect that they would also continue as if nothing happened. Both seem to be pretty moral guys, and I doubt they would defend someone they genuinely believe to be bad just for some business connections neither Derek nor Steve actually need.
Greg Doucette also hasn’t done anything about Leo that I know of, they’ve had at each other a lot before, but he probably just doesn’t want to drag himself into this as it would look really petty for him to do so.
 
Small update on Philion. His last video was about gambling and it seems he got pinched by the algorythm for it. It was flagged as promoting gambling (though now it's back up.)

Now youtube being shit is neither here nor there but Philions response is quite pathetic. He made a 10 minute video crying about it and he's also trying to do the whole mamamax thing complete with impotent twitter hashtag.

The most telling things in the video though are him at roughly 2:25 unironically calling himself an "investigative journalist" and his appearance. Don't get me wrong Philion was never a looker but at least before he looked like he showered more than once a week. He also seems to have gone full DYEL.

Not really drama i guess, just an update on someone that used to be fairly well regarded in the fitness-youtube-sphere.
 
Would you guys be interested in some french fitness youtubers drama?
Back in the day we had a few funny moments of drama and tension.
Funniest drama
-Fruit based vegan gains confronted irl.
-A fitgame youtuber that went to jail for insulting a white woman.
- A fitgame kid focused youtuber that filmed a dead body.
 
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Somebody should Tell Nippard that height is also a choice. Honestly I've always found his videos to be rather boring and he tends to make videos for the Reddit/I fucking love science crowd who needs everything validated by some study with a few participants
I am pretty sure that the whole “science based training” stuff that Jeff peddles is why I see so many Zoomers training like pansies and not making any gains.
Duuhhh I have to wait exactly 120 seconds between each set and go to exactly RPE 8 and do a power building PPL/Fullbody split duuuhhhh maingaining
Like nigga just lift the weights, like nigga you’re 16 you don’t have to be 100% dialed in like a elite athlete. Just pick up heavy shit and put it down until you can’t, worry on the details later when you need too.
 
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I am pretty sure that the whole “science based training” stuff that Jeff peddles is why I see so many Zoomers training like pansies and not making any gains.
Duuhhh I have to wait exactly 120 seconds between each set and go to exactly RPE 8 and do a power building PPL/Fullbody split duuuhhhh maingaining
Like nigga just lift the weights, like nigga you’re 16 you don’t have to be 100% dialed in like a elite athlete. Just pick up heavy shit and put it down until you can’t, worry on the details later when you need too.
My IRL buddy kinda brought up that it seems like over the last 2-3 years, way more dudes are getting into fitness shit at a younger age, which is whatever, but you can witness them having much pretty technical discussion, which is also whatever. It's just real fucking weird to see youngins act so anal about this shit. Best part of going to gym is having fun just doing stuff.
 
Update on Jeff:
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Durrrrr losing weight is like being rich durrrr if you feed Tess holiday 1000 calories of salad she'll still be a fat fuck durrrrrrrr science durrrr SOCIETY
Like, again, nigga we know this shit, but at the end of the day it's not an excuse to continue at 500 pounds, and it is your and your parents fault you are a fatty. You are an actual bodybuilder who has competed, you understand that losing and gaining weight is food, exercise, and discipline. Everything else is built upon these foundations.
 
My IRL buddy kinda brought up that it seems like over the last 2-3 years, way more dudes are getting into fitness shit at a younger age, which is whatever, but you can witness them having much pretty technical discussion, which is also whatever. It's just real fucking weird to see youngins act so anal about this shit. Best part of going to gym is having fun just doing stuff.
It's the reddit/internet fitness mindset I think. They want to have it be a science and they look up all these routines and techniques online because they can google search it and get 1000 pages of retard opinions and fad programs. When I was growing up the only resources I had were word of mouth from coaches and gym teachers and it was just a gut feeling about how much training you could do before you puked. I don't think that was healthier, but it was less obnoxious and more focused on each person's needs.
 
It's the reddit/internet fitness mindset I think. They want to have it be a science and they look up all these routines and techniques online because they can google search it and get 1000 pages of retard opinions and fad programs. When I was growing up the only resources I had were word of mouth from coaches and gym teachers and it was just a gut feeling about how much training you could do before you puked. I don't think that was healthier, but it was less obnoxious and more focused on each person's needs.
This is a bit off in the weeds, but I think that people are thinking of their bodies more like some mecha their brain drives around rather than their actual fucking body, their physical form, who they are, etc. And truthfully, the biggest, strongest, most jacked dudes I know have found what works best for them via years upon years of experience and experimentation. Yeah there’s scientific facts about how to grow or get stronger, but you are you, and you actually are unique. Maybe your arms really respond to high reps and volume, but your legs grow more the higher you get your squat numbers in lower reps ranges. Maybe you are structurally set up so that one version of a row doesn't get your back growing, but some weirder and lesser known exercise is just the ticket. This is because lifting is an artform, not just swinging around pieces of metal willy nilly.
The real reason I dislike Jeff Nippard and other similar science nerds isn’t because I’m a meathead bro who thinks numbers are for fags, but because if you just say “studies say studies say studies say” where is the art in it? Where’s the passion, the freedom to carve your own path and master your body in your own way? The desire to dominate your physical reality in a way few have truly accomplished? What all this science based stuff creates is mediocre physiques and mediocre strength athletes, who have major and obvious gaps in their training and techniques because “there’s no study on that yet durrrrr”.
It’s a long rant, but I’m passionate about physical culture and I believe it’s truly in a dark age. I also don’t think I have all the answers or anything like that, but I miss the magic of seeing people discuss these different viewpoints, philosophies, and methodologies with each other in regards to physical training and healthfulness. It’s really all just ads now.
 
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I did a quick search and it looks like nobody on the farms has spoken on the recent reveal about Leo And Longevity, and it's a shame because it is actually really funny. A request for a domestic violence restraining order was filed by his wife (whom he has a child with) and all his insane, narcissistic, abusive text messages are available in the document (here)

Quick video summary:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=M_ruIgnxffA
He explodes at his wife because he couldn't find the milk placed at the back of the fridge
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I especially like how he talks about his relationship with Derek (More Plates More Dates), and how he's already out-alpha'd him in private and it's only a matter of time until he overtakes him on the youtubes as well. That's a real sigma grindset right there. just show absolutely no respect to people who treat you with kindness and go out of their way to help you grow your channel.
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He hasn't uploaded for a month because of this, and pretty much everyone in his audience, and all his friends and people who collaborated with him now know about this, so we can assume his channel is basically over.
Dude I wanted to make a thread for Leo two years ago and now I'm kicking myself for not. I saw very early on his narcissistic personality and his inability to avoid negative comments.

I even left a comment back then warning him that if he kept engaging in the hate he would become a lolcow. He said he didn't know what a lolcow was and continued to sperg at comments.

He actually has quite a few parallels with Ethan Ralph, especially latching onto bigger Youtuber, calling them "friends" and having a warped view of loyalty.

Leo turned out to be even more unhinged than I thought. The text messages are hilarious.
 
So, the latest goss is that there have been some possible underdosed turkesterone on the market, and the two biggest sellers are MPMD and Greg.

Derek’s response: Make a two hour video with a legit chemist, explain the entire process from soup to nuts, and promise a refund if an bunk product got through all his own testing

Greg’s response: A makeup channel tiered video that’s six minutes long
 
Here's a little story from the french bodybuilding community.
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Tibo in shape is french bodybuilding youtuber. His videos are nothing special beside his tendency to shout catchphrases and use comedy in his videos.
With a bodybuilding focuses channel most people would expect to have fans between 18-25 years old. However, by meeting his fanbase irl at conventions he discovered most of them were minors.

He then started to get commision by the french government for videos. He would get paid money to make a video like 24h in the life of a military officer/fire fighter etc.
He then had a Logan paul moment
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Him +a dead body

He presented the job of embalmer to his underaged fans showing and manipulating a dead body in the process. He got a bit of backlash for it but his response was that it was okay to show this person's dead body since she didn't have a family.
 
I shall necro this thread to inform you that Leo and Longevity has been found dead at Tony Huge’s place in Thailand.
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I've been following this case. I made a post about Leo last year and have wanted to make a thread on him since late 2020 when I started noticing signs of narcissism and attaching himself to bigger content creators, citing all of them as loyal friends, only to burn bridges as quickly as Ethan Ralph.

I am not surprised he's dead. Suicide, overdose, and murder are all likely outcomes for Leo, though I'm betting the latter is what happened.

Tony Huge, from our internet perspective at least, is the prime suspect. I'm thinking they got into a fight and it ended with a sedated Leo dying in the process.

But given how shady Tony and Leo are, someone else coulda killed Leo. A drug deal gone wrong, killer ladyboy, Dubai nationalist with a fatwa, who knows.

As unhinged Leo was, I still feel a little sorrow for his death. He had a good podcast, was very well researched (albeit a little too confident), had the connections for great guests.

All he had to do was not see himself as some mob don and he could've saved his podcast. Again, parallels with Ethan Ralph and the Killstream.

And Lucy keeping his god damn milk in stock would have saved him too.
 
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