🗑️ Trashfire Nicholas J. Fuentes & Kanye West vs. Alex Jones - Alex Jones disavows the Catboi Pürrer and Ye. Calls Fuentes a “baby Hitler”

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One thing that confuses me overall is that despite of all people Nick following him around, Kanye has zero arguments when it comes to JQ stuff. Nick browses /pol/ and adjacent boards to it, don't let him claim otherwise. His catboys flood into any thread vaguely mentioning him to defend and fellate him. A lot of his talking points and ideas are vaguely paraphrased /pol/ pastas. There is no fucking way that he doesn't browse these kinds of boards himself. He has so much material to draw from, he could coach Kanye so easily, so he doesn't just have to storm off when challenged or ramble vagaries mixed into nonsensical diatribes. Just two examples:

He could bring up the sanhedrin and those articles of rabbis getting caught dragging people into cars a day before each 'jumps' off a rooftop, to make a case that refusal to tow one line violates talmudic law and carries the death penalty - in a lawbook that is enforced regardless of what the local law thinks about it. It may take a while to walk someone uninitiated through it, but once there, you can easily argue "Of course they are a monolith when push comes to shove. If the KKK were out murdering every White person who they deem has 'betrayed the White race' with complete impunity, you would think twice about breaking ranks with White nationalists too. As of right now, every Jewish person has to make the exact same consideration with the Sanhedrin." It's at least a better case than Kanye's "Nope".

He could bring up that those great conservative jews or ones that are otherwise opposed to what Gavin calls cultural masochism never seem to hold any sway in any of the big jewish organizations like the world jewish congress, the ADL, AIPAC, the trilateral commission, the FED or the IMF. Where are the big jewish global foundations pushing heterosexual family building and promoting ethnic homogeneity in foreign countries or at home? Where are the international jewish organizations promoting champions of free speech and condemning troons and sanfran tech people for trying to shut down non-curated websites? There is none of that, but there is a LOT of the opposite. The mythical 'nice' ones Gavin alludes to, always happen to have barely enough clout to give some token support to inoffensive milquetoast conservatives and never anything more than that. It's easy to make the case from here that the 'friendly' jews are an insignificant minority at best and a veiled tribal PR department at worst, and that the majority is more aligned with the insidious elements holding the reins of the financial and political world.

I'm sure there's more arguments like this but basically any /pol/ack should be able to come up with those, including the catboys. If Kanye wasn't coached to take on talking points like this that tells me Nick is taking him on a deliberate ruse cruise.
 
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One thing that confuses me overall is that despite of all people Nick following him around, Kanye has zero arguments when it comes to JQ stuff. Nick browses /pol/ and adjacent boards to it, don't let him claim otherwise. His catboys flood into any thread vaguely mentioning him to defend and fellate him. A lot of his talking points and ideas are vaguely paraphrased /pol/ pastas. There is no fucking way that he doesn't browse these kinds of boards himself. He has so much material to draw from, he could coach Kanye so easily, so he doesn't just have to storm off or ramble vagaries mixed into nonsensical diatribes. Just two examples:

He could bring up the sanhedrin, those articles of rabbis getting caught dragging people into cars a day before each 'jumps' off a rooftop, to make a case that refusal to tow one line violates talmudic law and carries the death penalty - in a lawbook that is enforced regardless of what the local law thinks about it. It may take a while to walk someone uninitiated through it, but once there, you can easily argue "Of course they are a monolith when push comes to shove. If the KKK were out murdering every White person who they deem has 'betrayed the White race' with complete impunity, you would think twice about breaking ranks with White nationalists too. As of right now, every Jewish person has to make the exact same consideration with the Sanhedrin." It's at least a better case than Kanye's "Nope".

He could bring up that those great conservative jews or ones that are otherwise opposed to what Gavin calls cultural masochism never seem to hold any sway in any of the big jewish organizations like the world jewish congress, the ADL, AIPAC, the trilateral commission, the FED or the IMF. Where are the big jewish global foundations pushing heterosexual family building and promoting ethnic homogeneity in foreign countries or at home? Where are the international jewish organizations promoting champions of free speech and condemning troons and sanfran tech people for trying to shut down non-curated websites? There is none of that, but there is a LOT of the opposite. The mythical 'nice' ones Gavin alludes to, always happen to have barely enough clout to give some token support to inoffensive milquetoast conservatives and never anything more than that. It's easy to make the case from here that the 'friendly' jews are an insignificant minority at best and a veiled tribal PR department at worst, and that the majority is more aligned with the insidious elements holding the reins of the financial and political world.

I'm sure there's more arguments like this but basically any /pol/ack should be able to come up with those, including the catboys. If Kanye wasn't coached to take on talking points like this that tells me Nick is taking him on a deliberate ruse cruise.
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Kanye is in the middle of a manic episode, he couldn't deliver coherent arguments even if he knew all the information. His mind is like a pinball machine and it's impossible for him to think something without saying it out loud. If he brings up AIPAC, he'll probably pivot to talking about Steve Jobs and threesomes instead of actually making a point.
 
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One thing that confuses me overall is that despite of all people Nick following him around, Kanye has zero arguments when it comes to JQ stuff. Nick browses /pol/ and adjacent boards to it, don't let him claim otherwise. His catboys flood into any thread vaguely mentioning him to defend and fellate him. A lot of his talking points and ideas are vaguely paraphrased /pol/ pastas. There is no fucking way that he doesn't browse these kinds of boards himself. He has so much material to draw from, he could coach Kanye so easily, so he doesn't just have to storm off when challenged or ramble vagaries mixed into nonsensical diatribes. Just two examples:

He could bring up the sanhedrin and those articles of rabbis getting caught dragging people into cars a day before each 'jumps' off a rooftop, to make a case that refusal to tow one line violates talmudic law and carries the death penalty - in a lawbook that is enforced regardless of what the local law thinks about it. It may take a while to walk someone uninitiated through it, but once there, you can easily argue "Of course they are a monolith when push comes to shove. If the KKK were out murdering every White person who they deem has 'betrayed the White race' with complete impunity, you would think twice about breaking ranks with White nationalists too. As of right now, every Jewish person has to make the exact same consideration with the Sanhedrin." It's at least a better case than Kanye's "Nope".

He could bring up that those great conservative jews or ones that are otherwise opposed to what Gavin calls cultural masochism never seem to hold any sway in any of the big jewish organizations like the world jewish congress, the ADL, AIPAC, the trilateral commission, the FED or the IMF. Where are the big jewish global foundations pushing heterosexual family building and promoting ethnic homogeneity in foreign countries or at home? Where are the international jewish organizations promoting champions of free speech and condemning troons and sanfran tech people for trying to shut down non-curated websites? There is none of that, but there is a LOT of the opposite. The mythical 'nice' ones Gavin alludes to, always happen to have barely enough clout to give some token support to inoffensive milquetoast conservatives and never anything more than that. It's easy to make the case from here that the 'friendly' jews are an insignificant minority at best and a veiled tribal PR department at worst, and that the majority is more aligned with the insidious elements holding the reins of the financial and political world.

I'm sure there's more arguments like this but basically any /pol/ack should be able to come up with those, including the catboys. If Kanye wasn't coached to take on talking points like this that tells me Nick is taking him on a deliberate ruse cruise.
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"mentally ill man isn't making cogent arguments"
not much of a story is it. Even with a parroting diarrhoeamouth like Kanye, getting him to stick to one track of thought long enough to get out a structured point will be impossible
 
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Basically...there is a sub sphere in dissident right circles that rejects anything that gives "wholesome feels"-ironically this is expressed through things like "I should have a harem of 14 year old girls", petty nihilism, Hitler was going to create an Aryan superman, more Anime pornography, etc...

Its tangentially tied to BAP but also part of the Amarna forum-where race realist statistics and BAP intermix with internet rationalism.

Its all very esoteric, Nick Fuentes and his gang actually launched raids on them (Amarna is a small forum), before the Kanye business started.

TLDR: Basically, there is a small group of internet autists in the dissident right who justify their anti-social tendencies with Nietzcheanism; they are a major sub faction tied to BAP and have engaged in bitter feuds with other dissident right factions and microcelebrities. Nigel Carlsbad, is some Romanian or Hungarian guy that advocates for patrimonialism and getting rid of the welfare state.

When they say "chungus" I think they mean-any sort of aesthetic imagery or rhetoric that comes across as wholesome or moralistic-for example "Hitler wanted to unite the nations of Europe against Judeo-Bolshevism", they see this as "chungus" because it has a warm feel to it, compare to "Hitler wanted to kill most Europeans, to create the ubermensch, this was the true purpose of the SS"-its provocative, intentionally offensive, and definitely not "wholesome".

Addendum: I realize this is all esoteric, because it is. The debates between these tiny online cliques are taken as world shattering serious business by their participants, and its nearly indecipherable to anyone not paying attention to it.
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Dude at some point "esoteric" crosses the line into "autistic". I've tried reading some BAP- the guy comes off like Down-Syndrome Evola... completely devoid of any of the wit or charismatic writing style present in something like Revolt Against The Modern World.
 
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One thing that confuses me overall is that despite of all people Nick following him around, Kanye has zero arguments when it comes to JQ stuff. Nick browses /pol/ and adjacent boards to it, don't let him claim otherwise. His catboys flood into any thread vaguely mentioning him to defend and fellate him. A lot of his talking points and ideas are vaguely paraphrased /pol/ pastas. There is no fucking way that he doesn't browse these kinds of boards himself. He has so much material to draw from, he could coach Kanye so easily, so he doesn't just have to storm off when challenged or ramble vagaries mixed into nonsensical diatribes. Just two examples:

He could bring up the sanhedrin and those articles of rabbis getting caught dragging people into cars a day before each 'jumps' off a rooftop, to make a case that refusal to tow one line violates talmudic law and carries the death penalty - in a lawbook that is enforced regardless of what the local law thinks about it. It may take a while to walk someone uninitiated through it, but once there, you can easily argue "Of course they are a monolith when push comes to shove. If the KKK were out murdering every White person who they deem has 'betrayed the White race' with complete impunity, you would think twice about breaking ranks with White nationalists too. As of right now, every Jewish person has to make the exact same consideration with the Sanhedrin." It's at least a better case than Kanye's "Nope".

He could bring up that those great conservative jews or ones that are otherwise opposed to what Gavin calls cultural masochism never seem to hold any sway in any of the big jewish organizations like the world jewish congress, the ADL, AIPAC, the trilateral commission, the FED or the IMF. Where are the big jewish global foundations pushing heterosexual family building and promoting ethnic homogeneity in foreign countries or at home? Where are the international jewish organizations promoting champions of free speech and condemning troons and sanfran tech people for trying to shut down non-curated websites? There is none of that, but there is a LOT of the opposite. The mythical 'nice' ones Gavin alludes to, always happen to have barely enough clout to give some token support to inoffensive milquetoast conservatives and never anything more than that. It's easy to make the case from here that the 'friendly' jews are an insignificant minority at best and a veiled tribal PR department at worst, and that the majority is more aligned with the insidious elements holding the reins of the financial and political world.

I'm sure there's more arguments like this but basically any /pol/ack should be able to come up with those, including the catboys. If Kanye wasn't coached to take on talking points like this that tells me Nick is taking him on a deliberate ruse cruise.
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This comes off as just as deranged tbh, im pretty sure they are not bothering to waste time with argument-shaped ramblings from pol because they already know barely anyone will take them seriously anyway -- with just reason too. I think Nick has enough experience being laughed at to understand so.
 
Will Nick have any allies outside of his gay porn streaming site (cozy) after he's done with the ye24 campaign? He just burnt bridges with the 2 biggest "edgy" right wing talking heads online and anyone he can't treat like a slave he treats like they're controlled opposition or at least an enemy. If nick wasn't an autistic faggot almost exclusively infighting other right wing figures and running his platform like his personal gay clubhouse I think cozy could have been a decent streaming site, but instead he turned it into the world's gayest and most submissive fan club with censorship even worse than youtube.


Also since I just got my account back I want to take a moment to laugh at "baby hitler" over his earlier statements about optics and not going full "wignat", instead he apparently needs to be an interracial neo nazi that worships a black schizophrenic (way better optics obviously)
 
I didn't mind the Max Headroom/Joe Biden parody on Info Wars. Who makes these graphic for Jones?
 
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Summary

Nick comes off slightly stronger than Alex Jones.
Alex Jones doesn't want to be racial and wants to judge people as individuals. Typically normie, big heart, response.
Alex Jones doesn't have experience debating the JQ and so he is like a deer in the headlights. Nick has must more experience with these talking points. Alex does get slightly better towards the end of the debate.
Hitler stuff is really bad. Nick is constantly backpedaling from the Hitler because Hitler killed Christians, he killed Poles.
Alex's callers are pushing back against Nick's tone and Jew hate. Maybe Adam Green was right. Christianity is a scam to get gentiles to worship Jews.
Alex Jones hates all authoritarianism. He is ethnically (half) German but he's an American and a Christian and he believes in 1776 liberty for all.
Overall, this conversation reminds me Richard Spencer's interview. Nick is hitting the same resistance.
Nick's opening statement is damage control
>Mental illness
>Death Com 3?
>I Love Hitler

Nick mentions that the ADL is asking congress for 500M to fight antisemitism.
Alex responses by saying people are calling Ye an ADL operative because he's helping the ADL get money.
Nick responded by saying the ADL is trying to cancel Ye.

Commercial Break every 3-5 minutes. Alex Jones claims they're pre-scheduled.

Nick Fuentes says he likes Hitler but he isn't a National Socialist. Cucking?

Nick says his tweet about Alex Jones getting the call was just banter.

Nick said that Jews deny Christ and that's why Jews shouldn't have any power.
Alex Jones doesn't have a good response.
"It's Jewish Gangsters. It's Zionists....We don't care about your grandmother who died in the Holocaust."- Nick Fuentes

Nick insulted Alex for focusing on the Bilderberg group and the NWO.
Alex Jones asked Nick to clarify: so you really don't care about elite conspiracies and think Jews run the world.
Nick says yes.
Alex Jones, "If the Jews are all powerful, why is Israel the most vaccinated nation?"
Nick, "Well that's just the elite."

Alex Jones, "Hitler was for abortion, Hitler was for euthanasia. He was for all the things the left supports today."

Nick mentions, multiple times, how the ADL deplatformed Ye.
Nick mentions how he is banned.
// Normies will think they deserve it for being mean to Jews. This cancel culture grift hasn't worked in 6 years, why would it work now?

Alex Jones, Jews aren't monolithic.
Alex Jones, left-wing Jews persecute the orthodox Jews in Israel.
Nick Fuentes, "but they all spit on Christians in Israel. They follow the Talmud. They don't view us as equals."
Alex Jones, "There are people who think Catholics run everything. Why do you think runs China?"

Alex doesn't like anti-whiteness.

Nick: "The answer is not Hitler. The answer is not National Socialist. The answer is Jesus Christ."

Alex Jones: "Jesus was a Jew. He said he came to fulfill the prophecies."
Alex Jones: "New York was targeting orthodox Jews."
Nick Fuentes: ZOA criticized the ADL for being anti-white but they're still on the same side as jews.

Caller 1: Jews have blessings from their ancestors but God i
Caller 2: "Jews are God's chosen people. I think you (Nick Fuentes) need to read the Bible, cover to cover, 2 more times before you make any more comments."
Nick: "I'm very precise with my words. You're problem isn't me. The problem is children are exposed to pornography. Christianity need to toughen up. Our adversary is the devil. Frankly we're in a war."
Caller 3: "Don't you (Alex Jones) think Hitler was fighting for a better future for Europe?"
Alex Jones: "Hitler killed Polish."
Caller 4: "Why don't you (Nick) stop throwing bombs and start living in Christ like the Amish."
Caller 5: "I agree with you on the Jewish Mafia. Hitler has killed Orthodox Christians. I don't see how you can square that with your worldview. Also Ye wears masonic symbols."
Nick. I never said I idolize Hitler. There are things I idolize about Hitler and Stalin and Xi.

Alex Jones wants to setup a commercial free interview this weekend.


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Alex Jones with Michael Malice spoke a little more about the encounter with Ye and Fuentes. Notable moment, Fuentes is a Gremlin.

 
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On Jan 6 Nick used a megaphone to order the crowd to break down the barricades and to forcibly remove members of congress from the capitol. (See video below.) That's incitement to riot right there. It's actually a call for insurrection, which I didn't think anyone had actually called for, until I saw that video.

Nick was one of the chief instigators of the riot. And he wasn't charged with anything. Of course he glows.
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Nick doesn't have to glow to avoid arrest. It's been proven that his presence and charisma is enough to make his retarded audience say and do retarded things. As a free man nick is a thousand times more valuable than any one of his loy-al-ists, simply because he's created a platform that attracts politically repressed spergs willing to go public with the kind of juicy unoptical views that government agencies are so desprate to weed out of society. Formal cooperation between nick and government agencies isn't needed with this dynamic.
 
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Summary

Nick comes off slightly stronger than Alex Jones.
Alex Jones doesn't want to be racial and wants to judge people as individuals. Typically normie, big heart, response.
Alex Jones doesn't have experience debating the JQ and so he is like a deer in the headlights. Nick has must more experience with these talking points. Alex does get slightly better towards the end of the debate.
Hitler stuff is really bad. Nick is constantly backpedaling from the Hitler because Hitler killed Christians, he killed Poles.
Alex's callers are pushing back against Nick's tone and Jew hate. Maybe Adam Green was right. Christianity is a scam to get gentiles to worship Jews.
Alex Jones hates all authoritarianism. He is ethnically (half) German but he's an American and a Christian and he believes in 1776 liberty for all.
Overall, this conversation reminds me Richard Spencer's interview. Nick is hitting the same resistance.
Nick's opening statement is damage control
>Mental illness
>Death Com 3?
>I Love Hitler

Nick mentions that the ADL is asking congress for 500M to fight antisemitism.
Alex responses by saying people are calling Ye an ADL operative because he's helping the ADL get money.
Nick responded by saying the ADL is trying to cancel Ye.

Commercial Break every 3-5 minutes. Alex Jones claims they're pre-scheduled.

Nick Fuentes says he likes Hitler but he isn't a National Socialist. Cucking?

Nick says his tweet about Alex Jones getting the call was just banter.

Nick said that Jews deny Christ and that's why Jews shouldn't have any power.
Alex Jones doesn't have a good response.
"It's Jewish Gangsters. It's Zionists....We don't care about your grandmother who died in the Holocaust."- Nick Fuentes

Nick insulted Alex for focusing on the Bilderberg group and the NWO.
Alex Jones asked Nick to clarify: so you really don't care about elite conspiracies and think Jews run the world.
Nick says yes.
Alex Jones, "If the Jews are all powerful, why is Israel the most vaccinated nation?"
Nick, "Well that's just the elite."

Alex Jones, "Hitler was for abortion, Hitler was for euthanasia. He was for all the things the left supports today."

Nick mentions, multiple times, how the ADL deplatformed Ye.
Nick mentions how he is banned.
// Normies will think they deserve it for being mean to Jews. This cancel culture grift hasn't worked in 6 years, why would it work now?

Alex Jones, Jews aren't monolithic.
Alex Jones, left-wing Jews persecute the orthodox Jews in Israel.
Nick Fuentes, "but they all spit on Christians in Israel. They follow the Talmud. They don't view us as equals."
Alex Jones, "There are people who think Catholics run everything. Why do you think runs China?"

Alex doesn't like anti-whiteness.

Nick: "The answer is not Hitler. The answer is not National Socialist. The answer is Jesus Christ."

Alex Jones: "Jesus was a Jew. He said he came to fulfill the prophecies."
Alex Jones: "New York was targeting orthodox Jews."
Nick Fuentes: ZOA criticized the ADL for being anti-white but they're still on the same side as jews.

Caller 1: Jews have blessings from their ancestors but God i
Caller 2: "Jews are God's chosen people. I think you (Nick Fuentes) need to read the Bible, cover to cover, 2 more times before you make any more comments."
Nick: "I'm very precise with my words. You're problem isn't me. The problem is children are exposed to pornography. Christianity need to toughen up. Our adversary is the devil. Frankly we're in a war."
Caller 3: "Don't you (Alex Jones) think Hitler was fighting for a better future for Europe?"
Alex Jones: "Hitler killed Polish."
Caller 4: "Why don't you (Nick) stop throwing bombs and start living in Christ like the Amish."
Caller 5: "I agree with you on the Jewish Mafia. Hitler has killed Orthodox Christians. I don't see how you can square that with your worldview. Also Ye wears masonic symbols."
Nick. I never said I idolize Hitler. There are things I idolize about Hitler and Stalin and Xi.

Alex Jones wants to setup a commercial free interview this weekend.


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Adam Green’s right on the Christianity Question for the most part, and seeing the callers mention how Jews are Gawd’s chosen is proof enough

All in all I have yet to see the debate between the two, but nice summary nonetheless
 
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Adam Green’s right on the Christianity Question for the most part, and seeing the callers mention how Jews are Gawd’s chosen is proof enough

All in all I have yet to see the debate between the two, but nice summary nonetheless
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Adam green debated several Christians he got his ass completely whacked because he has no understanding of Christian theology neither the Christian Zionist it specifically said in the Bible the Jews are the synagogue of Satan that's not even the only reference to Jews being cast out of God's covenant and the god making a new covenant with Christians the fact of the matter is Christian Zionism is completely antithetical to the basic tenets of Christianity and Adam green is about as knowledgeable on Christian theology.
He literally hangs out with a guy who thinks that the was a Zionist plot
 
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This whole thing reminds me of the eminent Francis E Dec, a sort of proto-Terry A Davis of the 60-80s.
His letters are some of the most offensive diatribes you can find and as you delve deeper into them you can almost see the mind of what seems a decently intelligent mind melt and distort under what ever pressure or disease he was under, the same way as that of Kanye.
But it is, as the Kanye one, strangely liberating to listen to.

Like tasting forbidden fruit in the form of audio signals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJh2OGmZQ1Q
 
TayandYou powiedział(a):
If 109 countries expelling Jews suggests that Jews are the problem, what does every single political and media personality Nick tries to work with disavowing him mean?🤔
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I was about to say like what fuckin website are we on? I get it's not all Jews but God damn If it ain't mostly Jews messing with us.

LonesomeDud powiedział(a):
As much as I love the retardation here, consider the following:

Maybe, just maybe perhaps, Alex Jones is disgusted by someone like Hitler who could order the deaths of millions of innocent lives, but never had the balls to do any of the evil things he compelled others to do.
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He most definitely killed people during world war I. The dude was a legit war hero.
 
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