Rooster Teeth / Achievement Hunter / Let's Play / Funhaus / Inside Gaming - The company was resurrected.

[Hugbox Kommissar]

Some minor bullshit and some fairly "interesting" technical talk from Barbara:

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The comments are on a thread about their new hardcore tabletop show:
https://www.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/w27clp/hardcore_tabletop_presents_the_red_dragon_inn/

Tell fans that if they dislike the new content and team members they're racist shitheads and should fuck off.
Viewership numbers plummet.
"Oh no, how could the YouTube algorithm do this to us?"

 

[Zync]

Tell fans that if they dislike the new content and team members they're racist shitheads and should fuck off.
Viewership numbers plummet.
"Oh no, how could the YouTube algorithm do this to us?"

It used to be "Oh, everyone is just watching on the RT site!" and now it's"The algorithm is hurting our viewership!". Anything to avoid reflecting on the fact that it's the quality of your content that has people leaving in droves. I can't wait to see the cope mechanism when RT finally tanks for good.

 

[batigol]

Early views, viewer drop-off, how much of the video is watched all the way through, clickthrough when the video is recommended to people, filename, tags, how previous videos performed in those things; all these criteria affect how the algorithm treats videos.

At this point the various RT channels are sufficiently deep into the YouTube channel death spiral that becoming a zombie channel is almost inevitable and unrecoverable.

It's also worth noting that when RT's channels were at their peak YouTube videos were a rolling stone gathering moss. If they got a lot of early views, then they got on trending, if they got on trending the views snowballed, this would lead to more subscribers, more early views, etc. They never adapted as YouTube changed the way it pushed content.

Was a few years ago now I fell off their content, but from memory they never did anything as basic as getting people to enable notifications which functionally replaced subscriptions.

 

[Fools Idol]

The death of Roster Teeth isn't unique, they've fell into the same trap so many gaming and online entertainment outlets.

Here's the truth, Roster Teeth grew too quickly by spending (wasting) someone else's money on a business that never had a future or on vanity projects that failed. On demand video streaming services will be remembered as a business fad and while something like Amazon Prime Video is probably here to stay, Roster Teeth isn't.

The content is trash, partly because the people behind it have zero talent but also because there is no accountability. When every manager is a nepotism hire and the on screen talent is worshipped like gods by the staff then it's no wonder why these expensive vanity projects get green lit only to fail.

 

[Ensok]

I'm not crazy for thinking the Blood Gulch Chronicles is way better than everything after it right? Cause I see a lot of people say the trilogy after and then the Freelancer Saga are the heights of RVB and meanwhile I'm looking at them like they're crazy.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

I'm just going to quote someone whose song says it better: Get a real ass job, bitch, before you end up somewhere you don't want to be.

Should I be worried that of all the degeneracy in this, the puking one was the most difficult for me to watch?

 

[Filthy Greenskin]

Some minor bullshit and some fairly "interesting" technical talk from Barbara:

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The comments are on a thread about their new hardcore tabletop show:
https://www.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/w27clp/hardcore_tabletop_presents_the_red_dragon_inn/

Yeah those tiktok veiws are really paying off, just look at the huge uptick in people consuming RT properties!

Also super weird to try and pass off the pandemic as to why channels took a nosedive, you have people stuck up home consuming more media than ever, if you can't capitalise on that because you have shitty tech support and editors then that's a you problem. The algorithm fucks a lot of people but when you have a channel with 9mil subs and barely 50k veiws then it's not an algorithm problem, it's a problem with the content. Trying to peddle RT to zoomers is pathetic, it's mid-thirties hipsters trying to be hip and with it and missing the mark time and time again, I'm not saying change is bad but the corporate trend chasing has burned any creative flare out of the company and it shows, none of their channels seems to want to do anything but the bare minimum to get a few podcast listens or YT clicks.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I'm not crazy for thinking the Blood Gulch Chronicles is way better than everything after it right? Cause I see a lot of people say the trilogy after and then the Freelancer Saga are the heights of RVB and meanwhile I'm looking at them like they're crazy.

I don’t think you’re alone. That documentary from earlier mentioned that there were people who loved the series more when it was comedy based instead of story based.

 

[batigol]

RT has always had Pinocchio syndrome, they’ve never wanted anything more than to be a real boy, sorry, Film/TV studio. Unfortunately life isn’t a Disney cartoon, and there was no magic fairy to make it happen. Most of the bad decisions they’ve made, and money pissed up the wall can be traced back to this.

 

[thomas_dp]

They got hit with a new negative Glassdoor review as well, apparently:
https://www.reddit.com/r/roostertee..._glasdoor_reviews_are_out_and_it_doesnt_look/

The amount of copium in that thread is unreal though, even though the legitimacy of Glassdoor reviews might indeed not be 100% solid.

 

[DimitryPidarBlyat]

They got hit with a new negative Glassdoor review as well, apparently:
https://www.reddit.com/r/roostertee..._glasdoor_reviews_are_out_and_it_doesnt_look/

The amount of copium in that thread is unreal though, even though the legitimacy of Glassdoor reviews might indeed not be 100% solid.

Damn, if I had a chance to work at RT, I would take it just to see if the review is accurate then report back here. They only hire people who live in and around Austin though, so there goes that plan lmao.

 

[Physics Ninja]

They got hit with a new negative Glassdoor review as well, apparently:
https://www.reddit.com/r/roostertee..._glasdoor_reviews_are_out_and_it_doesnt_look/

The amount of copium in that thread is unreal though, even though the legitimacy of Glassdoor reviews might indeed not be 100% solid.

I don't know any past fan that would complain about the current content in the same breath they'd complain about transphobia in the workplace.

As a side note, "Producer for 8+ years" how long did "Kdin" work there again?

 

[LecherousGranolaBar]

If the youtube algorithm is fucking them, why not tailor the content their many channels produce to take advantage of the algorithm???

Whatever they are doing now obviously isn't working if their views are down across the board.

Internet 101 Barbs, don't attack the fans. While they may be 'stealing' content you and your buddies work so hard on, the last thing you should be doing is shitting on the few remaining people who still watch you.

I don't understand how the YT algo is fucking them when they literally own the channel LETS PLAY. They own the plain phrase that has been used to describe someone playing video games on yt and providing commentary. How are you not in the algo for everything with that?

Also calling it "stealing" is fucking laughable. You upload content on a website for free or one that can be accessed for a free month. You can't complain at all. Start making good shit again and people won't let that sub lapse after a month.

It's not rocket science. Make Good Content. People watch/sub/donate. You could make a good video every 6 months and people will still be there when it comes out.

Yeah those tiktok veiws are really paying off, just look at the huge uptick in people consuming RT properties!

Also super weird to try and pass off the pandemic as to why channels took a nosedive, you have people stuck up home consuming more media than ever, if you can't capitalise on that because you have shitty tech support and editors then that's a you problem. The algorithm fucks a lot of people but when you have a channel with 9mil subs and barely 50k veiws then it's not an algorithm problem, it's a problem with the content. Trying to peddle RT to zoomers is pathetic, it's mid-thirties hipsters trying to be hip and with it and missing the mark time and time again, I'm not saying change is bad but the corporate trend chasing has burned any creative flare out of the company and it shows, none of their channels seems to want to do anything but the bare minimum to get a few podcast listens or YT clicks.

Tik Tok views don't mean shit for your yt audience. People consuming these mini videos on TIk Tik will almost never convert into watching 30+ minute videos on your main channel. Tik Tok is great for exposure if you're a smaller channel since I don't think their algo is refined at all so your shit can just explode randomly and pull in some interest at least.

And change isn't a bad thing but when you change from being a personality driven content production service to making abject crap almost nobody enjoys is the problem. Fact of the matter is, none of the new people are 1/10th as funny or interesting as older gen people.

 

[reptile101]

I don't understand how the YT algo is fucking them when they literally own the channel LETS PLAY. They own the plain phrase that has been used to describe someone playing video games on yt and providing commentary. How are you not in the algo for everything with that?

the algo is an excuse any big youtubers use when there quality goes down and people just dont wanna watch anymore

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

I don't understand how the YT algo is fucking them when they literally own the channel LETS PLAY. They own the plain phrase that has been used to describe someone playing video games on yt and providing commentary. How are you not in the algo for everything with that?

On a fresh account with zero interactivity, searching for the term "Let's play" has them be the first 4 results. If you refine to "Let's play minecraft", they are the first 2 results, but also littered throughout the results. So, AH should be perfectly unaffected.

As for RT themselves, I can see how they'd be fucked by the algorithm. Without searching for the explicitly, I'm not sure how they'd show up without straight up being recommended.

 

[Tom Honks]

I don't know any past fan that would complain about the current content in the same breath they'd complain about transphobia in the workplace.

As a side note, "Producer for 8+ years" how long did "Kdin" work there again?

Kdin has said about 10 years

 

[Johnny 13 gun]

Damn, if I had a chance to work at RT, I would take it just to see if the review is accurate then report back here. They only hire people who live in and around Austin though, so there goes that plan lmao.

As someone who interviewed with them, at the very least, the benefits they're talking about are 100% true. RT very specifically calls their PTO policy "take what you need" and back when I interviewed (pre covid), they also talked a lot about the free catered lunch thing. Dunno if this input is worth anything but those parts are 100% accurate and not common knowledge in the fandom.

 

[King Dead]

I'm not crazy for thinking the Blood Gulch Chronicles is way better than everything after it right? Cause I see a lot of people say the trilogy after and then the Freelancer Saga are the heights of RVB and meanwhile I'm looking at them like they're crazy.

I don't mean to speak for everyone here, but that seems to be the sentiment of most folks in this thread, myself included. Seasons 6-8 were okay, but I never enjoyed them quite as much as the original series. Seasons 9 and 10 were where I began to lose interest, and when the premiere of a new season (I forget which one, 11 maybe?) started off with like five minutes of uninterrupted "take us seriously, we are a serious show" CGI instead of the machinima hijinks I always enjoyed, I bailed. I could watch those first five seasons and still get some good laughs out of them, but everything that came after I have little to no desire to ever see again.

It's a lot like The Simpsons, now that I think about it. A rough but promising start while they worked out the kinks, a golden age of pretty much nothing but hits, a slow decline as the show aged and cast and crew were replaced, and then a long stretch of zombified content that shares the show's name but little else.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I don't mean to speak for everyone here, but that seems to be the sentiment of most folks in this thread, myself included. Seasons 6-8 were okay, but I never enjoyed them quite as much as the original series. Seasons 9 and 10 were where I began to lose interest, and when the premiere of a new season (I forget which one, 11 maybe?) started off with like five minutes of uninterrupted "take us seriously, we are a serious show" CGI instead of the machinima hijinks I always enjoyed, I bailed. I could watch those first five seasons and still get some good laughs out of them, but everything that came after I have little to no desire to ever see again.

It's a lot like The Simpsons, now that I think about it. A rough but promising start while they worked out the kinks, a golden age of pretty much nothing but hits, a slow decline as the show aged and cast and crew were replaced, and then a long stretch of zombified content that shares the show's name but little else.

Also, when the Red trailer dropped, pretty much everyone was in agreement that RvB’s time as the flagship was pretty much done. And the show rather gracefully passed the torch to RWBY. Also, NOBODY really Red vs Blue: Zero.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I don't mean to speak for everyone here, but that seems to be the sentiment of most folks in this thread, myself included. Seasons 6-8 were okay, but I never enjoyed them quite as much as the original series. Seasons 9 and 10 were where I began to lose interest, and when the premiere of a new season (I forget which one, 11 maybe?) started off with like five minutes of uninterrupted "take us seriously, we are a serious show" CGI instead of the machinima hijinks I always enjoyed, I bailed. I could watch those first five seasons and still get some good laughs out of them, but everything that came after I have little to no desire to ever see again.

It's a lot like The Simpsons, now that I think about it. A rough but promising start while they worked out the kinks, a golden age of pretty much nothing but hits, a slow decline as the show aged and cast and crew were replaced, and then a long stretch of zombified content that shares the show's name but little else.

Also, when the Red trailer dropped, pretty much everyone was in agreement that RvB’s time as the flagship was pretty much done. And the show rather gracefully passed the torch to RWBY. Also, NOBODY really Red vs Blue: Zero.

I consistently liked RvB all the way through Season 10. I think that the way in which they expanded out the world gradually was pretty well done and I think that they chose exactly the right time for the Bloodgulch Chronicles to wrap up since by the time they were ready to move out of the Gulch they'd basically beaten the Gulch to death and done everything they could within the confines of the box canyon. I liked the Freelancer program stuff since it allowed for some really nice contrast between our Sim Trooper cast and the actual professionals which made for some really good situational comedy as this total Goofus team kept getting one over on the Gallant, I also think that Season 10 was a perfect ending point for the series.

I honestly think that RvB didn't start to go downhill until Season 11/whatever that prequel series they let Monty jizz all over was since that was when the focus of the show shifted away from the misfit reds and blues as characters and the tone as a comedy. Even during the "darker" moments of Seasons 6-10 they never fully lost that comedic focus and they were still a machinima rather than a cgi show.

Edited for spelling and grammar.