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Isn't hanging chads what made us end up with some of our presidents? I wish I could see his face as he read that one.

I sort of have it, but there are Kiwi's that have been doing it longer and better than me. I do too! But since he blocked me, he can't see...

You mean hanging chads without any changes in govt policy, genetic make-up, attitudes, anything at all? In that case it depends how young would...