Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

Greer v. Moon 2:20-cv-00647 — District Court, D. Utah

  • Docket No.
    2:20-cv-00647
  • Court
    District Court, D. Utah
  • Filed
    15 Wrz 2020
  • Terminated
    22 Kwi 2024
  • Nature of Suit
    820 Copyright
  • Cause
    17:0501 Copyright Infringement
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    None
  • Last Filing
    6 Sie 2024

Parties (4)

Parties
Lolcow, LLC, Kiwi Farms, Joshua Moon, Russell G. Greer

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 127)

# Date Description Filing
6 Sie 2024 Case no longer referred to Magistrate Judge Jared C. Bennett. (kpf)
113 15 Maj 2024 ORDER of USCA Supreme Court Circuit as to 45 Notice of Appeal, filed by Russell G. Greer. Supreme Court order dated 05/13/2024 denying certiorari. (jrj) (Entered: 05/16/2024)
112 28 Kwi 2024 NOTICE OF TRANSMITTAL that case has been transferred to Northern District of Floridia via electronic given case number 3:24-cv-00122-MCR-ZCB. (nl) (Entered: 04/29/2024)
111 25 Kwi 2024 Report on the Final Decision of an action mailed to the Register of Copyrights Office. (kpf) (Additional attachment(s) added on 4/26/2024: # 1 Copy Right Form) (kpf). (Entered: 04/26/2024) PDF
110 25 Kwi 2024 NOTICE OF TRANSMITTAL that case has been transferred to Northern District of Florida. (kpf) (Entered: 04/26/2024)

GREER v. MOON 3:24-cv-00122 — District Court, N.D. Florida

  • Docket No.
    3:24-cv-00122
  • Court
    District Court, N.D. Florida
  • Filed
    19 Mar 2024
  • Terminated
    10 Cze 2024
  • Nature of Suit
    820 Copyright
  • Cause
    17:501 Copyright Infringement
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    None
  • Last Filing
    16 Paź 2024

Parties (4)

Parties
LOLCOW LLC, RUSSELL G GREER, KIWI FARMS, JOSHUA MOON

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 155)

# Date Description Filing
16 Paź 2024 ACTION REQUIRED BY MAGISTRATE JUDGE: Chambers of MAGISTRATE JUDGE ZACHARY C BOLITHO notified that action is needed Re: 132 Mail Returned. (mah)
132 15 Paź 2024 Mail Returned as Undeliverable. Mail sent to Russell G. Greer re: 128 ORDER. Order mailed to 1155 S. Twain Avenue, Suite 108420, Las Vegas, NV 89169. (Attachment: #1 Notice of Returned Mail). (mah) (Entered: 10/17/2024) 1 2
131 10 Lip 2024 AO 121 Copyright Case Notification of order entered. Copy sent to the Register of Copyrights. U.S. Copyright Office, 101 Independence Ave. S.E., Washington, D.C. 20559-6000. (adf) (Entered: 07/11/2024) 1 2
130 10 Cze 2024 ACKNOWLEDGMENT re 129 Case Transferred Out to Another District. Case transferred from Florida Northern has been opened in District of Utah as case 2:24cv00421, filed 06/11/2024. (jfj) (Entered: 06/13/2024) 1 2
129 10 Cze 2024 Interdistrict Transfer to the District of Utah. (jfj) (Entered: 06/11/2024)

Greer v. Moon 2:24-cv-00421 — District Court, D. Utah

  • Docket No.
    2:24-cv-00421
  • Court
    District Court, D. Utah
  • Filed
    10 Cze 2024
  • Nature of Suit
    820 Copyright
  • Cause
    17:0501 Copyright Infringement
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    Plaintiff
  • Last Filing
    21 Cze 2026

Parties (4)

Parties
Lolcow LLC, Kiwi Farms, Joshua Moon, Russell G. Greer

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 525)

# Date Description Filing
486 21 Cze 2026 Defendant's REPLY to Response to Motion re 480 Defendant's MOTION to Unseal Document 1 filed by Russell G. Greer and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants Lolcow LLC, Joshua Moon, Counter Claimants Lolcow LLC, Joshua Moon. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A (publicly-filed Tennessee in forma pauperis application), # 2 Exhibit B (publicly-filed Tennessee order denying in forma pauperis status), # 3 Exhibit C (publicly-filed Nevada in forma pauperis applications))(Hardin, Matthew) (Entered: 06/22/2026) 1 2 3 4
485 21 Cze 2026 Defendant's REPLY to Response to Motion re 478 Defendant's MOTION for Judgment on the Pleadings and Memorandum in Support as to both claims and counterclaims filed by Defendants Lolcow LLC, Joshua Moon, Counter Claimants Lolcow LLC, Joshua Moon. (Hardin, Matthew) (Entered: 06/22/2026) PDF
484 21 Cze 2026 Defendant's REPLY to Response to Motion re 477 Defendant's MOTION to Amend Judgment and Memorandum in Support (Motion to Reconsider)Defendant's MOTION to Vacate 449 Modification of Docket, 453 Order on Report and Recommendations, Order on Motion to Dismiss, Order on Motion to Dismiss Case as Frivolous, Order on Motion to Dismiss for Failure to State a Claim, Order on Mo filed by Defendants Lolcow LLC, Joshua Moon. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A (Mr. Greer did not timely file because he "fell asleep"))(Hardin, Matthew) (Entered: 06/22/2026) 1 2
481 18 Cze 2026 RESPONSE to Motion re [477] Defendant's MOTION to Amend Judgment and Memorandum in Support (Motion to Reconsider)Defendant's MOTION to Vacate [449] Modification of Docket, [453] Order on Report and Recommendations, Order on Motion to Dismiss, Order on Motion to Dismiss Case as Frivolous, Order on Motion to Dismiss for Failure to State a Claim, Order on Mo filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (jrj) PDF
483 17 Cze 2026 RESPONSE to Motion re [480] Defendant's MOTION to Unseal Document [1] filed by Russell G. Greer and Memorandum in Support filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (jrj) PDF

Greer v. Moon 21-4128 — Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit

  • Docket No.
    21-4128
  • Court
    Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit
  • Filed
    26 Paź 2021
  • Terminated
    15 Paź 2023
  • Nature of Suit
    3820 Copyright
  • Last Filing
    15 Cze 2026

Recent Filings

# Date Description Filing
10010756599 19 Paź 2022 [10949330] Appellant's reply brief filed by Russell G. Greer. Served on 10/20/2022. Manner of Service: email. Word/page count: 6487. This pleading complies with all required privacy and virus certifications: Yes. [21-4128] [Entered: 10/21/2022 07:58 AM]
Civil law has existed for millenia based on the idea that if you're fucking around pro se (or even with lawyers) in civil court, you must be pretty fucking pissed off to bother with all the effort - self regulating the amount of shit and dross you have to deal with.

AI upends this applecart and we're at the foreskinfront here: once every judgement-proof retard from here to Alabama realizes they can throw a legal shitfit with no consequences, they'll back the court system up - which will result in a new parallel court for pro se retard cases that moves as slow as molasses.
I've actually been thinking about this for a while. On one hand, it is effectively a ddos of the system, as others have said.

On the other hand, it feels like the legal system as a whole has been for the exclusive use and benefit of those with money and power for a long time. If this levels the playing field for the common dipshit, even just a little and at great cost to the system as a whole, its hard for me to be that upset.

I don't know. We all get what we fucking deserve I guess.
 
I've actually been thinking about this for a while. On one hand, it is effectively a ddos of the system, as others have said.

On the other hand, it feels like the legal system as a whole has been for the exclusive use and benefit of those with money and power for a long time. If this levels the playing field for the common dipshit, even just a little and at great cost to the system as a whole, its hard for me to be that upset.

I don't know. We all get what we fucking deserve I guess.
Greer's case (and his conduct therein) is an edge case of edge cases, and it's highlighting how badly a number of different graces the court extends towards the common person intersect in the wrong hands.
-IFP is great for the truly impoverished seeking recourse for (presumably) their wrongs. A weaselly bastard like Russ has abused it to allow him to file cases at a moment's notice whenever the whim strikes him, leading to a frivolous attitude towards petitioning the court (look at how Russ completely dropped the oh-so-important, worthy-of-an-emergency-ruling case against the state of Nevada to let him put his whore initiative on the 2026 ballot, that he completely dropped when things got real for him during the eviction saga and has not really revisited)
-Pro-se representation is great in that it doesn't gatekeep access to legal justice to the hands of a privileged few, but gives the common man an avenue towards it, with some grace extended towards their conduct for not being a legal professional. However, it allows local nutcases to make a mockery of the court and waste everyone's time extending grace towards obviously baseless cases.
-AI is helpful in letting pro-se litigants more easily parse the often byzantine world of the legal profession, which minimizes (to an extent) the amount of hand-holding a judge has to give to said litigants as well as the sense of unfairness on the part of the defense. However, it's also by design trainable and eager to please whoever is training it, so nutcase pro-se litigants will easily force it into bad legal theory and hallucinating case law when it's trying to square their (obviously illegal) goals with the legal code it has access to.

Really, the lesson from this, and Greer's other cases, is that the problem isn't AI. It isn't IFP. It isn't Pro-se litigants. Not entirely. It's that the courts are too scared of labeling a frequent IFP/pro-se/AI-spamming litigant as vexatious.
The means to handle litigants like Greer is readily available to the court. I can't think of any rules we could add to judicial conduct that would have any impact when the judges on this case refuse to do their fucking jobs, dismiss this case for any of the many reasons Hardin has proffered up, including the fact that the Supreme Court just weighed in and said "yeah providing the infrastructure access to other sites that illegally host copyrighted material isn't contributory infringement" while specifically calling out the decision that this current case is based on as incorrect, and label Greer a vexatious litigant who has to do extra work going forward proving he's got a real case before he's allowed to file anymore lawsuits.

Russ should've been marked as vexatious in the first few lawsuits he filed after literally publishing a book describing how he sued a celebrity as a publicity stunt. Probably sometime around when he sued the production company as a spurned contestant. If he had to do the tiniest amount of work to file lawsuits going forward instead of spamming the local government whenever his druthers were up, the judges wouldn't be in this situation.

The only real change I can suggest is that it's bullshit IFP petitions are automatically filed under seal, that should be readily available to the defense because of people like greer, and the poors can just deal with the scrutiny tbh.
 
The means to handle litigants like Greer is readily available to the court.
The solution is easy, and solves the problem almost overnight - you get one pro-se retard lawsuit; if you win, or it isn't immediately thrown out, or the judge thinks it had something, you get another one.

However, if you fuck it up, you effectively get a public defendant who must review your pro se bullshit before it's allowed to continue. In other words, declare everyone vexatious if they start filing bullshit. The vexatious declaration isn't even terribly onerous, it just says a judge must spend an hour or so seeing if your shit is all retarded. They don't do that for all pro se shit right now, because they're not being DDOS'd - once they are, you'll be able to win election as the designated pro se retard judge (or it'll be passed around like the on-call warrant judge).
On the other hand, it feels like the legal system as a whole has been for the exclusive use and benefit of those with money and power for a long time.
I mean Pratchett likes to go on and on about how privilege is just "private law". In my opinion, there's really two types of law - "regal" law (e.g., this is what the king/pope/God wants, and here's how it is implemented on the ground; still exists in things like Canon Law which has the fun part where the Pope is still alive and around, and if you fuck up the interpretation too much he can come Jesuit your ass) and "common" law (which is a horrible misuse of the term) but I take to mean "here's how we the people have always done or want this done" type of law - this one is much more practically "here's the limits on the powerful lest the people murder and eat them". If pro se fucktards start harassing normies instead of just Internet Niggers, the murdering and eating will begin unless the problems are resolved.
 
However, if you fuck it up, you effectively get a public defendant who must review your pro se bullshit before it's allowed to continue.
I think you mean public defender, though those are only available in criminal cases and Russell is not the defendant in his lawsuits.

What you're suggesting is similar to what is actually applied to declared vexatious litigants, but it's usually the presiding judge who decides if the lawsuit has merit or not before you're allowed to file it.
 
The problem to me seems to be IFP as a whole. Perhaps that is something that needs to be redesigned.
Greer's case (and his conduct therein) is an edge case of edge cases, and it's highlighting how badly a number of different graces the court extends towards the common person intersect in the wrong hands.
-IFP is great for the truly impoverished seeking recourse for (presumably) their wrongs. A weaselly bastard like Russ has abused it to allow him to file cases at a moment's notice whenever the whim strikes him, leading to a frivolous attitude towards petitioning the court (look at how Russ completely dropped the oh-so-important, worthy-of-an-emergency-ruling case against the state of Nevada to let him put his whore initiative on the 2026 ballot, that he completely dropped when things got real for him during the eviction saga and has not really revisited)
ICBW, but it seems like IFP status is an all or nothing thing - one either get it and pays nothing, or it's denied and the full fees have to paid. I won't say its a perfect proposal or solution, but perhaps IFP needs to be on a sliding scale based on one's income level compared to the Federal Poverty Line. Someone truly destitute would have to pay zero fees, but someone who is working poor such as and RG would have to pay a little something or the full fee besides on their income level. That way, the legal system isn't out of reach for the metaphorical little guy, but those with the means to pay for their case to be heard have to put up a little something.

I do agree RG is an extreme edge case that the system wasn't designed to take into consideration because it has the presumption cases are legitimate and not as frivolous as this one has been. There's unfortunately no easy answers for this case, but AI certainly has the potential to jam up the courts worse than they already are.
 
Someone truly destitute would have to pay zero fees, but someone who is working poor such as and RG would have to pay a little something or the full fee besides on their income level.
Yeah, let's add more bureaucratic nonsense for the judicial system to check and verify in a unending verification cycle of actual income.
 
I know, and yet they do it.

A pro se or IFP case should be immediately terminated if AI mistakes are found.
And a lawyer should be immediately sanctioned.

It was bad enough when vexatious litigants were at least somewhat limited by typing speed. Now any idiot can spam the docket with voluminous torrents of word vomit with a few seconds effort.
 
It was bad enough when vexatious litigants were at least somewhat limited by typing speed. Now any idiot can spam the docket with voluminous torrents of word vomit with a few seconds effort.
Supposedly this is going to become a massive issue with inflation rising and bankruptcy cases increasing.

Pro-se litigants can just drag out the cases with tons of AI slop and grind the process to a halt. Banks' hands will be tied because regulations while sub-iqs can submit plights. The courts are already slow enough as it is.
 
what are you, some sort of communist?

If expecting government employees to do the job that we pay you to do, then put me in the communist box. Here though, it'd have you marked down as 'far right'.

But I wasn't even hoping that they move the case fast enough that it goes to trial. I'm just saying that when they issue some kind of order and threaten some kind of sanction for breaching that order, they do what they said they'd do and issue a costs order against Greer. If his fuck ups were actually costing him serious money -- the kind of money that would buy a decent used car -- I bet Greer would be having second thoughts.

Their failure to act just encourages the motherfucker. It sends a message, 'Yes, we know you're a poor lil retarded nigger and the bad man is providing a place where people are talking about you. So you do what the fuck you like and let that free speech guy foot all the bills.'

I swear, Greer has to be sucking these two guys off on the downlow to get this kind of preferential treatment. It must be a judicial kink, to get your knob drooled on by somebody with mobius syndrome.

Jesus, I don't know who I hate more. Greer or these useless fucking judges?
 
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Motion to do the thing that you already said you wouldn't do, for the same reasons that you already said you wouldn't do it.
Those disclosures also referenced Plaintiff’s DETR counselor Jerry Leach in connection with the ViaTRON allegations. Around that same time, Jerry Leach informed Plaintiff that Jordan Fetenmier had been contacting him regarding Plaintiff while discovery was stayed.
Your honor, my other lawsuit is proceeding while you issued a stay of discovery in this case. That's illegal!
It feels as though Mr. Hardin is following Plaintiff from case to case and inserting himself into unrelated disputes involving Plaintiff’s employment, finances, and personal life. Plaintiff cannot determine whether this stems from personal hostility toward Plaintiff, ideological disagreements with Plaintiff’s advocacy positions, or some other motivation. What Plaintiff does know is that the dispute has become far larger than merely defending a copyright infringement case.
Your honor, all of my vexatious defendants are ganging up on me! They are hiring Hardin to stalk and harrass me by replying to each motion I file, all because I like whores! This is a copy-write case!
 
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This all could've been avoided if he just cracked a dictionary open and looked up what "arbitration" means.

ViaTRON stipulated to it because they have a strong position, not because they give a shit about your housing situation or what you think you're owed. :story:
 
Multiple people called it.
Greer thought arbitration means he was going to get paid.
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Hardin is making a business out of tard wrangling Greer.
Yet another great example of Russ not understanding cause and effect. He just wanted the money, and ViaTRON agreed to arbitration, so those must be causally linked. ViaTRON couldn't possibly have chosen arbitration because they expect to come out better financially.
 
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