Burnt Fish
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- 7 Gru 2020
the worst part of this will be Candace owens starting to make the rounds again about how Kirk was sacrificed by the jews.
Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.
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- 3 Paź 2023
Do these chucklefucks really believe that Trump would just get all submissive to the people who tried to brain him in front of a live audience?
I would expect that if Israel tried to kill Trump, and he found out, he'd just out-and-out tell everyone and swear vengeance against Israel. What are they going to do? Kill him after he tells everyone, and set the dwindling Israel supporters in the U.S.(who, outside of literal Jews, are pretty much exclusively Trump supporters) against them? Wipe out his family? They already tried to kill him, so what's to actually stop them from wiping them out on a whim either.
One of Trump's worst, and arguably best, qualities is his ego. He's not the guy who would just bend over and take it from someone who tried to kill him.
It's retarded how people think everything he does is due to being threatened or some shit. The reason he does what he does is because he was convinced, rightfully or wrongfully, that it was the best course of action.
woc_krava
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- 15 Maj 2025
Has anyone seen Cenk Uygur's appearance on Piers Morgan? He had a pretty big meltdown.
I think that Piers Morgan's current show is just IBS with a budget.
I think that Piers Morgan's current show is just IBS with a budget.
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- 1 Kwi 2025
I also have this inkling that at some point there's going to be a massively effective drone counter that comes out of nowhere and changes the game. Not to make them obsolete but war tech is filled with counters within counters of that kind that makes going all in on one thing risky.
The one thing that never seems to become truly obsolete is the fucking gun, pistols to howitzers and everything inbetween.
capeshit
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- 12 Cze 2025
The Iranians struck Yanbu. Red Sea strikes are now in play.
Here's a guess. When the Houthis are involved, gas will cost 7 dollars a gallon.
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- 16 Lis 2022
What are the Houthis up to?
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- 12 Maj 2017
This war's seriously shattered some long-held biases and beliefs I've clung to for longer than I probably should have with hindsight. I got nothing else to contribute beyond encouraging anyone who hasn't yet paid money for Kiwi Gold to get billpay, SEPA, or crypto contributions set up. The "view highlights" feature condensed like 200+ pages of meaningful updates interspersed with unproductive spergery that I missed out on after not checking this thread for a week into the postmarks and highlights only. So what would've taken me like an hour or two to comb through is now handled in like 20ish minutes of reading.
Special thanks to all the people making quality posts I can't tag right now because XenForo wants to act like a fool on Firefox.
Special thanks to all the people making quality posts I can't tag right now because XenForo wants to act like a fool on Firefox.
Burnt Fish
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- 7 Gru 2020
Out of curiosity though can you elaborate on what you mean with this? news is slow at this hour.
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- 12 Maj 2017
So, full-disclosure: I am a brownoid, Islam is the religion I am most intimately familiar with (my faith is tenuous at best and deconstructed at worst), and I was born and raised when 9/11 happened along with all the jingoism that it entailed... until the 2008 financial crisis hit, and everyone's parents started filing for divorce while my friends and I played Pokemon Diamond. Naturally: this meant two major sentiments would define my biases from my preteen and teen years throughout most of my adult life.
a) An inclination to assume the absolute worst about Israel, and by extension, the USA's foreign relations with Israel.
b) An inclination to assume that all wars with Muslim nations would end up like Iraq and Afghanistan
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On the first point: I actually have @Maori Kiwifruit Growers for actually talking with me in the past at length about my biases and misconceptions last year when I approached him at random. It was he who directed me to I24 for "neutral" coverage on the Gaza war and Israeli domestic politics more broadly. I use scare quotes around "neutral" because I24 isn't neutral out of a mission statement like AP and the CSM claim to be, but rather they're neutral insofar as running afoul of Haaretz turbo commies and the people who like neocon-adjacent coverage from sites like Times of Israel. Not to mention that he gave me the rundown of Israel's domestic law, the lack of a written constitution due to Israel being in a constant state of war since its inception, how Israeli coalition building actually functions, stuff like that. I'm a brownoid, but I'm not afraid of macro-level and systems-level analyses. This is all pertinent information that I genuinely did not seek out precisely because of my preexisting biases and misgivings about Israel. This isn't to say that my distaste went away wholesale, but it's genuinely a horse of an entirely different colour to sit down and actually have a conversation with someone who's very much on the opposite side of where I come from. Especially when he's not talking down to me, insulting my religious or ethnic background, and actively engaging with me in good faith. We didn't necessarily agree on everything, but the conversation itself was invaluable from my perspective regardless.
My interactions with @Maori Kiwifruit Growers was, if memory serves me since inactive DM threads autodelete after like 30 days, some time after Operation Midnight Hammer. My biases were already being challenged, and I wrote my thoughts about it here in USPG2. At that time, I was already starting to rationalise the operation precisely because of the nature of my line of work. I'm not afraid to mention it: I work in third-party logistics, I've interacted with tons of freight forwarders and customs brokers to start cobbling together a broader picture of how international trade actually works. My rationalisation at the time of the USPG2 post was that the import/export of dual use commodities that have valid civilian and nuclear uses automatically triggers intense scrutiny from regulatory bodies. Presumably, the Israeli government gave Trump 47 incontrovertible proof that Iran was building a nuclear weapon. This proof would've almost certainly come from OSINT, and OSINT isn't afraid of tracking international trade via publicly accessible information channels. At some point, somewhere down the line, I inferred that Israel had proof that Iran procured something that triggered an automatic flag, and this gave the Israeli government the hard proof they needed to make the USA drop 420,000 pounds of bunker buster bombs on Iranian nuclear facilities. I don't know if that rationale is true, but it certainly does speak to how automated systems used for all types of global trade can, and probably were, utilised to track down black mark nuclear facilities, and the people who supplied them the stuff.
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On the second point: this is honestly a logical fallacy that I probably should've seen coming from a mile away, but didn't because Dubya bashing and Iraq/Afghanistan were basically used as cudgels to justify non-intervention at all costs. Nothing ever remains static, people cycle in and out of military leadership, technology advances beyond what our peak was 20 years ago, and geopolitical actors also change with time. The circumstances that led to the forever wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were products of cumulative administrative failure, and Dubya deciding he needed to take the heat off himself for committing 9/11 so he invaded Iraq. Not helping matters any was how the 2011 NATO intervention that deposed Gaddafi led to Libya going from a semi-prosperous nation-state with shitty human rights to an anarchy-infested hellhole where subsaharan africans get trafficked into slavery or those rafts that take them to Europe where they take advantage of the EU human rights charter and all its provisions. That intervention happened when I was in high school, and that coincided with the broader Arab Spring that ultimately failed to topple Bashar al-Assad and preciptated the Syrian Civil War. Combine that with some Alex Jones movies like Blueprint of Madmen alongside late 2000s/early 2010s conspiracy content regarding the National Endowment for Democracy sponsoring colour revolutions, USAID being an instrument of US imperialism, and all this other stuff... and it's kinda easy to see why I held onto that bias for as long as I did.
I think there's also this desire to vehemently shit on the USA and all its failings because it's easier to mock an outside power that demonstrably fucked your country up once like 20-30-40-50 years ago than it is to look at what your family's country of origin actually did in the interim since the USA fucked off. Or alternatively, clinging to mid-20th century revolutionary figures like Gamal Abdul Nasser and Kwame Nkrumah despite their genuinely problematic and turbulent histories. Or clinging to dictatorships that just refuse to die in the wake of the USA trying so damn hard to topple and ultimately fail at toppling them until America decided to play hardball. There's only so much that you can attribute to US strategic interests, neocolonialism, and privilege arguments before you hit the inevitable brick wall that is "Okay, all that shit happened... so what the fuck are we gonna do to better ourselves in the here and now?" and it's nothing but crickets because everyone back in the so-called motherland is corrupt and loves shitting on other people, and shitting on your motherland is tantamount to being a traitor apparently.
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This is just my experience. I can't speak for all brownoids, nor do I want to. The public school system definitely conditioned me with a broadly 90s-2000s liberal mindset despite the contradictions of my cultural upbringing, my cultural upbringing also predisposed me to specific thought patterns and rhetorical strategies that are commonplace within the broader community, but like... I'm not gonna sit here and look at all this evidence to the contrary of what my biases say and think "No, it's the evidence that's wrong." Like after a certain point, a brownoid's gotta take the L and admit "yeah, I was fucking wrong on multiple counts. Mock me if you must."
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- 25 Lut 2024
don't care, go back to whatever islamic shithole you came from.
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- 12 Maj 2017
So… New York City with Zohran Mamdani as mayor? Got it.
Super-Chevy454
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- 2 Kwi 2018
Joe Kent is lucky to not being blacklisted like Mel Gibson was.
Burnt Fish
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- 7 Gru 2020
Genuinely interesting to read thanks for the lengthy response don't want to write a whole lengthy response to not disrupt the thread more than I already did by asking the question in the first place but just always find reading these sort of stories to be interesting.
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(I always laugh when I see this guy pop up, something incredibly on the nose (no pun intended) with a Saudi official having a Hitler mustache given general regional sentiment.)
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- 16 Gru 2019
Real Goebbels vibes coming out of Iran if they're talking about declaring total war this late in the game.
Fall of the Samurai w/ DarthMod is some of the best line combat out there.
Kinda strange that an anti-shipping missile caused only two casualties...
Yeah, the first ship of a class always has serious teething issues.
Yeah, the fact she's been at sea for far longer than intended probably hasn't helped matters there.
You shouldn't be. They're still feeling guilty over the events of 1939 and 1945 when they left the Poles high and dry.
In order for the missile to know that though it needs to know where it isn't.
Jesus fuck, the Russians didn't get that shit working until 2006? That has to be close to twenty years after the USA implemented it with Tomahawk Block II.
Currently in what's left of IRGC naval HQ:
The Anglos and Saudis have long, deep-standing ties, my friend.
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- 6 Paź 2020
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- 3 Maj 2024
Unidentified drones have recently been detected over Fort McNair in Washington, where Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth live, with multiple sightings on one night in the past 10 days, WaPo reports.
Authorities have not determined the drones’ origin and have increased monitoring amid heightened alert levels linked to the Iran conflict. The incidents prompted enhanced security measures and a White House meeting, with officials even considering relocating the two secretaries, though they have not moved.Qatar, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, and the UAE have issued a joint statement after a meeting in Riyadh yesterday urging Iran to immediately stop its attacks.️ Iran carried out strikes on Riyadh during yesterday's ministers’ meeting held in the city.
Footage shows large fires at the oil refinery in the Mina Al Ahmadi & Abdullah area in Kuwait, after hit by 2 drones.
Iran’s Khatam al-Anbiya (Armed Forces) says:
NASA FIRMS shows an ongoing fire at the Yanbu oil refinery in Yanbu, Saudi Arabia, along the Red Sea coast. Iranian media claimed they struck the facility with missiles, and FIRMS appears to confirm this.
An Iranian aerospace scientist was killed in an assassination strike last night.
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- 6 Paź 2020
This regime is not only insane but fucking retarded. The Saudis literally just a few hours ago told you to knock it the fuck off or else, so your response is to do it even more.
There is no rational argument for this level of stupidity.
Unredacted TND
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- 22 Lut 2026
Now that Joe Kents is gone, who'll be media's new leaker 
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- 18 Lip 2017
Its almost as if Iran wants to draw the Arabs into the war. I am not entirely sure what they hope to accomplish by doing so.