🤝 Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

Americans who collect disabled American children for $$$ also exist. Here’s an interesting write up about a family where 5 of their 10 adopted kids died. https://www.reddit.com/r/Unresolved...of_the_carrolls_ten_adopted_children_died_in/
Shit, that's a horrifying case. I'll bet the brainless baby is the only death they weren't involved in. What happened to the little girl with downs is especially horrifying but sounds like the kind of thing fundies would do to kids. And in true fundie fashion they forced the oldest girl to do most of the hard work (until she snapped and lit a barn on fire to get away from them).

Fundies are the worst with kids :(
 
Shit, that's a horrifying case. I'll bet the brainless baby is the only death they weren't involved in. What happened to the little girl with downs is especially horrifying but sounds like the kind of thing fundies would do to kids. And in true fundie fashion they forced the oldest girl to do most of the hard work (until she snapped and lit a barn on fire to get away from them).

Fundies are the worst with kids :(
Fundies are to tard babies what PETA is to puppies.
 
There was a family in the region where I used to live who would adopt hard-to-place kids for the publicity, and the disability money. The parents and bio kids were Caucasian but most of the kids they adopted were not, and in this otherwise basically 100% white area, did not introduce their children to other kids that looked like them. (Not sure why.)

And if you were wondering if the parents spent that money on the kids, beyond the very basics, no, they didn't. Their home was basically off limits to other children in the area, especially teenagers, because the parents would do things like take fancy vacations with that subsidy money and the older kids would throw big parties (and the kids whose parents cared who found out about it would pretty much ground those kids for life, KWIM?).
 
Some wholesome news. I only wish they were pushing gene therapies even quicker through the pipeline. The alternative for these disorders is death, and the sooner for gene therapy, the better.

(Also fuck doctors who say serious d.d.s are normal. Backsliding is ESPECIALLY not normal).
I had not heard about this treatment. For anyone who is interested, Sandhoff disease is very similar to Tay Sachs disease, differing only in which subunit of the beta-hexosaminidase enzyme is missing, and both disorders are classified as GM2 gangliosidoses, a type of lipid storage disorder.

Babies with Sandhoff are born normal, but because of missing two enzymes called beta-hexosaminidase A and beta-hexosaminidase B, the lysosomes in their cells cannot break down substances called GM2 gangliosides, among others. GM2 gangliosides are fatty materials that are present on the outside of the cell, particularly in brain cells. If they cannot be broken down because the right enzyme is missing, they accumulate and interfere with normal cell function. This is especially disastrous for babies and young children, because their brains grow and develop very quickly, which means a lot of cells are being produced. Imagine a big, densely populated city where trash collection stops. Garbage piles up everywhere and pretty soon, normal functions cannot go on anymore. This is what happens to babies with Sandhoff. Their brains and other organs become filled with "trash", and this causes loss of proper function. These babies lose all of their developmental skills, and eventually become blind, silent, and completely unresponsive to their surroundings or caregivers. They cannot sit up or walk. Most have severe seizures, which can't be controlled with medication because they are basically a sign that their brain is dying. At the end, they are completely vegetative, having lost the ability to cough or even swallow their own saliva. They die in very early childhood, often after getting pneumonia because they breathe their own saliva into their lungs. It's fucking devastating for a family to watch this happening to a baby who appeared totally normal until they were a few months old. All because of a single "typo" in their DNA. The baby in this article received a therapy which basically corrected the typo and taught the cells in her brain to start producing the enzyme she was missing. That's amazing.

Sandhoff disease is very, very rare, but there are new therapies being developed for more common genetic diseases, too. For example, a disease called spinal muscular atrophy, which is similar to muscular dystrophy, is caused by a mutation in a gene called SMN1. This results in a lack of some or all of a protein called survival motor neuron protein. Without it, the motor neurons, which are specialized cells in the spinal cord that transmit messages from the brain to the muscles, cannot survive. The speed of disease progression depends on how much of the protein is functional. Babies with no functional protein almost always die before their first birthday because of respiratory failure, but people with different, less severe mutations can live to adulthood.

In December 2016, a new drug called nusinersen was approved in the United States for the treatment of SMA. It uses messenger RNA to "teach" the body how to produce more of the necessary protein. It's been hailed as a miracle drug, and children who were expected to die are now going to live to be adults. The drawback of the drug is that it has to be administered directly into the spinal fluid using a massive needle inserted behind the ear. It's given monthly and is very expensive.

Last August, though, a new treatment called risdiplam was approved by FDA for treating SMA. It's also an mRNA therapy and works similarly, but the amazing part is that it's an oral medication.

We went from "sorry, your kid is going to die" to "your kid probably won't die, but we're going to be sticking a huge goddamn sharp thing millimeters from his spinal cord every month" to "here's an oral medicine, but it might taste weird" in less than four years.
 
A somewhat grim development in Arizona.


I say somewhat grim as “survivable genetic defect” sounds to me like it could readily encompass many of the poor little souls mentioned in this thread.

I’m not in agreement with little souls being born only to suffer terribly. I also am not comfy with that decision being taken as a blanket policy by government without any attention paid to the facts and circumstances of each case.
 
A somewhat grim development in Arizona.


I say somewhat grim as “survivable genetic defect” sounds to me like it could readily encompass many of the poor little souls mentioned in this thread.

I’m not in agreement with little souls being born only to suffer terribly. I also am not comfy with that decision being taken as a blanket policy by government without any attention paid to the facts and circumstances of each case.
The fundies that spout about DS being "survivable" only showcase the smiling babies and the high functioning adults that are able to work and play sports. They don't show the ones with severe heart defects that die before they are a year old, the nonverbal ones that are basically hormonal toddlers in adult bodies, or the ones that will still need constant care if they live longer than their parents.
 
The fundies that spout about DS being "survivable" only showcase the smiling babies and the high functioning adults that are able to work and play sports. They don't show the ones with severe heart defects that die before they are a year old, the nonverbal ones that are basically hormonal toddlers in adult bodies, or the ones that will still need constant care if they live longer than their parents.
I’m not sure who is being expected to make judgements about what is “survivable” and for how long. There’s a large difference between being born with e.g. a readily repairable cleft palate, and being capable of surviving birth only to die with hours or days of something like Patau syndrome.

I just don’t believe that decisions to terminate pregnancies with severe and complex foetal abnormalities are being made casually and with “no regard for life”. I think the medical teams involved have a lot of regard for life: the life the baby will actually be expected to live. Which may well be short, painful and entirely in special care in the hospital. I think it must be a terrible choice for the parents either way, and I cannot find it in my heart to condemn them for not carrying a baby diagnosed with fatal foetal abnormalities to term.
 
A somewhat grim development in Arizona.


I say somewhat grim as “survivable genetic defect” sounds to me like it could readily encompass many of the poor little souls mentioned in this thread.

I’m not in agreement with little souls being born only to suffer terribly. I also am not comfy with that decision being taken as a blanket policy by government without any attention paid to the facts and circumstances of each case.
Other states had already started this:

Ohio even made it a felony for the doctor:
" The Ohio law prohibits physicians from performing an abortion if they’re aware that a diagnosis of Down syndrome, or the possibility, is influencing the decision. They could face a fourth-degree felony charge, be stripped of their medical license, and be held liable for legal damages. The pregnant woman faces no criminal liability under the law. "

There is a thread where a lot of the posts when this first came up went to to discuss abortion in regards to this. It had a lot of info on this and other laws.
 
The fundies that spout about DS being "survivable" only showcase the smiling babies and the high functioning adults that are able to work and play sports. They don't show the ones with severe heart defects that die before they are a year old, the nonverbal ones that are basically hormonal toddlers in adult bodies, or the ones that will still need constant care if they live longer than their parents.
They also don't talk about the fact that the rate at which people with downs and other disabilities are abused is horrific. Forcing someone that wanted to abort a fetus for downs to carry to term is only setting the kid up to be born into a situation where it isn't wanted and will likely just be resented and mistreated.

Shit, even fundies abuse downs kids if horror stories like the little girl dying after they poured bleach on her are any indication.

And yeah "survivable genetic defect" includes shit like trisomy 18 and 13 and other shit that's more or less incompatible with life. I'm sure anyone that's a regular ITT knows that fundies insist those conditions are "survivable" because of a few outliers like Kayli that managed to survive for an extended period of time.
 
Latest on Tard baby Tinslee Lewis (archive). Still goddamn horrifying. Plz someone grab video?

$24 million spent on Fort Worth toddler’s life support; hospital says Texas may intervene​

BY KALEY JOHNSON
APRIL 29, 2021 03:12 PM


Mom of baby on life support speaks after appeal hearing


The mother of Tinslee Lewis, a baby on life support at Cook Children's Hospital in Fort Worth, talks about her daughter's treatment after an appeal hearing. She is fighting against the hospital's decision to end Tinslee's care. BY KALEY JOHNSON


Texas has spent $24 million in Medicaid funds to help keep a toddler alive at Cook Children’s Medical Center, the Fort Worth hospital said in an appeal filed April 16 in the ongoing court case surrounding Tinslee Lewis.

Two-year-old Tinslee has been at Cook Children’s for most of her life. Born with a rare heart condition, Tinslee has been kept alive with medical care and “extreme efforts,” the hospital said in the appeal, in which it asked the 48th District Court of Fort Worth to quickly schedule a trial date to decide whether life support care should be removed from Tinslee.

“Although this case has never been about money — and Cook Children’s has never considered finances when making an end-of-life decision,” the appeal says, “the State of Texas (through its manager of a Medicaid care program) is now threatening to interject the issue into this dispute.”


Tinslee’s mother, joined by family members and activist groups, has argued for two years that her daughter deserves to live and she alone has the right to decide if or when medical care should end. Trinity Lewis says there is a possibility that her daughter will get better and the hospital should not be able to decide her fate.

Tinslee breathes with the assistance of a ventilator and is sedated but conscious, Lewis said at a press conference in January 2020, and responds to touch and stimulation as any baby would. Lewis previously described her daughter’s “sassy” personality and said she likes having her nails painted.


But the hospital says that Tinslee cannot feel anything except pain. In multiple court proceedings, doctors testified that Tinslee has no chance of recovery and each day is tortuous for her.

“This child should not be forced to endure this fate for months on end while this matter continues its creep through the legal system,” the appeal filed April 16 said.

The cost of Tinslee’s care has not been mentioned in previous court documents, but Cook Children’s said in the April 16 motion that the state, through a Medicaid agency, is threatening to inject itself into Tinslee’s case.

Tinslee’s medical care is paid for through a special Texas Medicaid managed program known as Texas STAR Kids, the hospital said in the brief. Texas hired a third party to administer the program and evaluate charges to determine whether treatment should be covered.

Texas’ Medicaid manager has begun to review whether Texas should be spending tax dollars on Tinslee’s care “when such care is medically futile, far beyond the applicable medical standard of care, and cannot impact her underlying condition,” according to the hospital.


Tinslee’s condition continues to deteriorate, the hospital said, and it asked in its motion that the 48th District court expedite the legal process to prevent further suffering. The hospital asked the court to set a trial date for July 26.

LEGAL BATTLE​

The legal fight surrounding Tinslee began in October 2019 when Cook Children’s Ethics Committee voted unanimously to end Tinslee’s treatment. Under the Texas Advance Directives Act, the hospital is legally within its right to end treatment for a patient if the care is deemed futile.

However, Lewis fought back. She and her attorney filed an injunction against the hospital in November 2019.

Since then, the case went up through the courts, with each side appealing if the ruling was not in their favor. In January 2020, a judge ruled that Tinslee could be taken off life support after an emotional hearing in the 48th District Court in Fort Worth. In July 2020, the Second Appellate District of Texas in Fort Worth reversed that decision.


In October 2020, the Texas Supreme Court denied the hospital’s petition to take Tinslee off life support and in January, the federal Supreme Court rejected the hospital’s plea, as well.

The case now returns to the lower court for a final ruling. If the 48th District Court rules in favor of Tinslee’s mother, the hospital cannot end her treatment.

The decision would have far-reaching ramifications, as it would essentially rule the Texas Advance Directives Act unconstitutional. Lewis’ attorney has argued the law is unconstitutional because it violates Tinslee’s right to life. Protect Texas’ Fragile Kids, anti-abortion group Texas Alliance for Life and Attorney General Ken Paxton are among those who have weighed in on Tinslee’s case and argued the statute is unconstitutional.

The hospital argues that groups and people have latched onto Tinslee’s case and made her life “into a public circus so that she can serve as a face for their fight to change Texas law.”

While doctors have the right to deny care under common law, the Texas Advance Directives Act outlines a dispute-resolution process and protects the hospital from legal ramifications. The attorney for Cook Children’s, Amy Warr, argued at a previous hearing that physicians have a right to decline care for a patient if that care “causes suffering without medical benefit.”


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Tinslee Lewis celebrated her first birthday on Feb. 1, 2020. She is on life support at Cook Children’s Hospital in Fort Worth. TRINITY LEWIS PROVIDED
 
Looks like the site that compiles stuff on Tinslee also compiled stuff on the Charlie case as well:
Medical Futility Cases

Pretty interesting to read the court cases in these things. Seems in January they tried to bring this case to supreme court to get the ruling to force life in pain onto Tinslee overruled, but they denied seeing the case.
 
Latest on Tard baby Tinslee Lewis (archive). Still goddamn horrifying. Plz someone grab video?
There’s some really interesting language in that article. Does this mean that Texas or Medicaid is tired of paying millions of dollars for a dead baby? Let’s see what the shit-for-brains mother has to say, shall we...
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Her Facebook account:
https://www.facebook.com/trinity.lewis.3551

Another FB account set up for Tinslee:
https://www.facebook.com/Tinslee-strong-104920111197389/

I really didn’t have time to dig around, but it’s very interesting to me that no new pictures have been posted of this thriving, “sassy” child. I mean, at least try to prove us wrong?

Anyway, here’s some random tidbits:
-I have no idea why she’s using the last name “Keaun”, but she does have another daughter named Tylee.
-Trinity’s sister is “Syme Lewis” on FB (her actual name is Symphony...no, really), age 24, has kids with a guy named Darius Harris.
-Another relative (possible sister) is Deme Reed (short for Demetra).

Who really cares about millions of dollars in hospital bills when you need that Louis Vuitton phone case, amirite?
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Fuck, Tinslee's mom is really shaping up to be mama Nails 2.0. Though at least Jahi was dead and incapable of suffering.

Tinslee and Luna are the tard babies that make me the most MOTI. Tinslee's mom might not be at fault for fucking her kid up like Robyn is, but forcing her to keep suffering is sociopathic. I really hope she just dies in her sleep or something soon, she's been hurting long enough :(
 
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