General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

I just saw this. Ayame and Pekora in youtube japan ad along with Kizuna Ai.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bGqcd8Ymn9U
I was honestly just wondering if Kizuna AI did anything with any Hololive members (even though that's not really collab related), outside of Polka pre-Hololive for obvious reasons, I couldn't really find anything besides something she did with Sora from 2 years ago. Which is weird since she obviously likes certain members, like when she SC'd Lamy.

 
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I was honestly just wondering if Kizuna AI did anything with any Hololive members (even though that's not really collab related), outside of Polka pre-Hololive for obvious reasons, I couldn't really find anything besides something she did with Sora from 2 years ago. Which is weird since she obviously likes certain members, like when she SC'd Lamy.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EKirIFYHzq8
I mean she probably dont want to anger her Chinese fans no? She uses tiktok from what ive read and her concert got streamed in bilibili if im not mistaken.
 
Lads, what is the end goal for Hololive or for that matter any other vchuuba agency that your oshi belongs to? I don't mean to doompost, but I can't see Hololive retaining its current (fun?) culture if it ever does stumble into being a large company. I also don't see Yagoo ever backing down from a chance at making real big boy money as long as he sees an opportunity.

On the other hand, I just don't see a market large enough for Hololive to become large. I'm not saying that Hololive isn't growing or that it can't grow much more, but at this present date, the market for vchuubas has shown to be reaching its healthy balance for what I presume will be a while. If anything, companies like Holo, Niji, and even Vshojo seem to be paving the way for the large chuuba agencies of the future. I could also just be wrong and Cover Corp will be so large and successful that my doctor will be shamelessly wearing a Pekora face mask as he fingers my ass in search for ass cancer.

Is this a case of just enjoy it while it lasts?
 
I could also just be wrong and Cover Corp will be so large and successful that my doctor will be shamelessly wearing a Pekora face mask as he fingers my ass in search for ass cancer.
Time to write some stories of a dystopian future where vtubers ruled the world, but everything went to shit.
 
Lads, what is the end goal for Hololive or for that matter any other vchuuba agency that your oshi belongs to? I don't mean to doompost, but I can't see Hololive retaining its current (fun?) culture if it ever does stumble into being a large company. I also don't see Yagoo ever backing down from a chance at making real big boy money as long as he sees an opportunity.

On the other hand, I just don't see a market large enough for Hololive to become large. I'm not saying that Hololive isn't growing or that it can't grow much more, but at this present date, the market for vchuubas has shown to be reaching its healthy balance for what I presume will be a while. If anything, companies like Holo, Niji, and even Vshojo seem to be paving the way for the large chuuba agencies of the future. I could also just be wrong and Cover Corp will be so large and successful that my doctor will be shamelessly wearing a Pekora face mask as he fingers my ass in search for ass cancer.

Is this a case of just enjoy it while it lasts?
Hololive was created to promote Cover's face-tracking software, it just also turned out to be a profitable side venture in its own right, albeit more for corporate advertising collabs from Cover's perspective. The girls add prestige to the business side of things in a way I don't think you can really buy, so I don't see them going away anytime soon. To put it another way, if it weren't for Hololive, would you know that Cover even exists?
 
Lads, what is the end goal for Hololive or for that matter any other vchuuba agency that your oshi belongs to? I don't mean to doompost, but I can't see Hololive retaining its current (fun?) culture if it ever does stumble into being a large company. I also don't see Yagoo ever backing down from a chance at making real big boy money as long as he sees an opportunity.

On the other hand, I just don't see a market large enough for Hololive to become large. I'm not saying that Hololive isn't growing or that it can't grow much more, but at this present date, the market for vchuubas has shown to be reaching its healthy balance for what I presume will be a while. If anything, companies like Holo, Niji, and even Vshojo seem to be paving the way for the large chuuba agencies of the future. I could also just be wrong and Cover Corp will be so large and successful that my doctor will be shamelessly wearing a Pekora face mask as he fingers my ass in search for ass cancer.

Is this a case of just enjoy it while it lasts?
You're asking a bunch of tards on the internet about marketing/financial projections of a Japanese company that hasn't even gone public.

Twitch partners with people at like 50 followers, having 10,000 subscribers on YouTube puts you in the Top 2% of all YouTube accounts, so hitting 400K just on the basis that you are part of a certain is pretty fucking lucrative.

Naturally, I think we are going to start feeling a turnover of members in the next few years. The VAs are much older than their characters, and I don't think this is the endgame for a lot of them. Otogibara Eri literally just graduated because she found her calling in life, and it's foolish to think they'll keep doing this for decades.

So yeah, the very nature of V-Tubing is that the members are fleeting and constantly being cannibalised by their successors, but I think the concept is here to stay and will have an audience for a very, very long time.

Cover and Ichikara have the leeway to either keep up with the times and demands of the industry, or rot and stagnate. The likes of VOMS, 774, LVG etc who have much lower expectations can just do whatever the fuck they want, really.
 
Lads, what is the end goal for Hololive or for that matter any other vchuuba agency that your oshi belongs to? I don't mean to doompost, but I can't see Hololive retaining its current (fun?) culture if it ever does stumble into being a large company. I also don't see Yagoo ever backing down from a chance at making real big boy money as long as he sees an opportunity.

On the other hand, I just don't see a market large enough for Hololive to become large. I'm not saying that Hololive isn't growing or that it can't grow much more, but at this present date, the market for vchuubas has shown to be reaching its healthy balance for what I presume will be a while. If anything, companies like Holo, Niji, and even Vshojo seem to be paving the way for the large chuuba agencies of the future. I could also just be wrong and Cover Corp will be so large and successful that my doctor will be shamelessly wearing a Pekora face mask as he fingers my ass in search for ass cancer.

Is this a case of just enjoy it while it lasts?

From Cover's perspective, the goal is to make money, as always. Right now, they're raking it in off of talent SCs but merchandise is where the real money is. It's the reason why they're doing Hololive: Alternative. They own the rights to the characters. They already have established fanbases outside the niche vtubing community. Mangas, visual novels and/or animes based on this IP are sure to have a hungry market. It's just a matter of whether Cover is capable of being able to scale up production, output and availability to keep up with the interest in the IP. Talent will turn over, but if they're able to create monetized properties off the actual characters, they can keep making money off these despite the "roommates" leaving.

From a vtubing/streaming perspective, the market's currently pretty saturated or close to it. Corrections will happen. And it'll be healthy for the industry/community. Hard to think of any other agency coming in and muscling it's way into the Cover-Niji table and being bigger than the two unless they happen to stumble upon lightning-in-a-bottle talent like Cover did with Gura. You can throw as much money as you can into the best Live2D rigs but if your talent has the personality of a cow turd, you're gonna struggle to peel away audiences from the established talents, especially since you only get 1 or 2 chances to hook audiences. Goodluck trying to compete with the already crowded bigger names when they're streaming in the prime timeslots, more so if they have permissions for the brand-spanking new game.
 
Why the fuck? Is he trying to make enemies on purpose?
Time to write some stories of a dystopian future where vtubers ruled the world, but everything went to shit.
>national speeches are enjoyable now
>"taxes" are optional, but people keep simping anyway
>driving laws repealed
>leaders don't make political statements, let alone fight because that would fracture the fanbase
>China is gone for some reason

libertarian paradise
I'm trying to come up with excuses for numberfagging. Are Ina or Kiara in danger of graduating if they don't hit 1M subs?
Let's be frank, if low numbers meant graduation then all of Holostars would be axed
 
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I'm trying to come up with excuses for numberfagging. Are Ina or Kiara in danger of graduating if they don't hit 1M subs?
They think big numbers equal quality, dunno man, its weird.
plus, wouldnt you want your oshi to be the very best like no one ever was?
He removes your comment if you talk about him getting doxed on his videos btw.
 
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Lads, what is the end goal for Hololive or for that matter any other vchuuba agency that your oshi belongs to? I don't mean to doompost, but I can't see Hololive retaining its current (fun?) culture if it ever does stumble into being a large company. I also don't see Yagoo ever backing down from a chance at making real big boy money as long as he sees an opportunity.

On the other hand, I just don't see a market large enough for Hololive to become large. I'm not saying that Hololive isn't growing or that it can't grow much more, but at this present date, the market for vchuubas has shown to be reaching its healthy balance for what I presume will be a while. If anything, companies like Holo, Niji, and even Vshojo seem to be paving the way for the large chuuba agencies of the future. I could also just be wrong and Cover Corp will be so large and successful that my doctor will be shamelessly wearing a Pekora face mask as he fingers my ass in search for ass cancer.

Is this a case of just enjoy it while it lasts?
With no one watch TV nowadays with all those get woke virtual signaling of West Taiwan slavery is good for the world etc. I’ll say Hololive might evolve into main streaming service with their own platform or real partnership with Amazon Prime or even YouTube with stipulation that they keep all of those political nonsense away from the girls and vice versa.
Once they have enough capital, they can start produce their own anime. If they continue to evolve, they might as well reshape the voice acting industry of Japan which right now turn voice actresses and actors into idols (you have to look good and good at voice acting to sell, I think it started with YuiKaori and HanaKana). Keep in mind that some OG voice actresses like Tanaka Rie, or Asakawa Yuu also streaming game on Twitch and YouTube, so this new Vtuber streamers can also help new voice actresses who does not have the look to cut out for actual idol demand. (This mean that the net idols culture just evolve).

That’s my general take after seeing Kanata, Marine voice acting capabilities makes me think of them as they at least attend some voice training school but does not have the look to debut as anime voice actresses. (Though some internet sources say that Fubuki is still doing voice acting for visual novel as side job)
 
Gura, you led me on. You started super metroid and left me hanging. I tried to like you Gura.
 
Lads, what is the end goal for Hololive or for that matter any other vchuuba agency that your oshi belongs to? I don't mean to doompost, but I can't see Hololive retaining its current (fun?) culture if it ever does stumble into being a large company. I also don't see Yagoo ever backing down from a chance at making real big boy money as long as he sees an opportunity.

On the other hand, I just don't see a market large enough for Hololive to become large. I'm not saying that Hololive isn't growing or that it can't grow much more, but at this present date, the market for vchuubas has shown to be reaching its healthy balance for what I presume will be a while. If anything, companies like Holo, Niji, and even Vshojo seem to be paving the way for the large chuuba agencies of the future. I could also just be wrong and Cover Corp will be so large and successful that my doctor will be shamelessly wearing a Pekora face mask as he fingers my ass in search for ass cancer.

Is this a case of just enjoy it while it lasts?
Hololive did a good job picking talent and that's about it. From an EN perspective the rest of their operation is clunky as shit. There's weird nitpicks like needing permission to play games and larger issues like YouTube losing ground in the streaming wars quarter to quarter (even Facebook is positioned to outdo them at this point.) Creative freedoms are also limited under the Hololive umbrella, even to the point where collabs in-agency aren't allowed for ridiculous reasons. Besides debuting new talent to diminishing returns, what else is there?

Just look at some of the indies on Twitch and what they're doing with the format. They don't need to wait X months to get a new model, they aren't splitting revenue, they play games day 1 with whoever they want, and it's likely that with a bit of time and effort they'll be outperforming lower-level Hololive members. Some of the models these indies have are fucking insane, too - entire models for one-off streams, models that react to user input, etc etc.

There's a lot of prestige (rightly so) around being in Hololive, and while their talent is among the best, I think your assessment of them essentially paving the way for future agencies or individual talents to come along and really cause a stir is 100% right.
 
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