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[Deepland Bystander]

Do you think is it possible that there will be a possible pushback to this trans movement in the future? This thread depress me than anything else.. pitiful people.

I do not mind people expressing themselves or getting body modifications (as long as they can accept the risk - and it should never be covered as neccesary or framed through lies). But at this time, from troons in women's sports, questionable Biden's health minister, and growing number of lonely, isolated people bought into a heavily-marketed bodily-destructing decision... it just seems like a snowball with no way to stop. Like the opiate epidemics or how smoking was suggested by doctors of the age past, but now it is your 'real, authentic self!' that's also a protected class.

This paper has already posted on the GRS surgery thread but it's still worth a read for people here. The initial trans surgeries framed itself as more of a 1. Medical experimentation, the first happened in Weimar era where the extreme acceptance of sexual experimentation were pushed to the limit. 2. To castrate people's with sexual issues as deemed at the time, not because they really believed they could turn a man into a woman. It became that way I assumed, because lying to patients is an easier way to deal with them to just done away with society 'undesirables' while reaping the profits of life long medical patients, while troons are happy that they've got their wish by their lack of understanding of anatomy. Since then the idea of gender identity has become reified into reality and it's becoming more authoritarianistic - I wonder if it could ever be stopped.

A lot of people know that troons shit is pure delusion - but of course we can't really say that in public place anymore. If you've ever seen Hypernormalization documentary by Adam Curtis, it's that feeling of things being.. fake but people just take it as normal. Call me tinfoil-hatter but to me this whole thing just seem like human experiment project people at the top don't really care about, it just makes money.

P.S. It grinds my gears to see troons in medical/biological science field getting celebrated. Barbara/Ben Barres, and now Richard/Rachel Levine. - A big disgrace.

 

[FeatherPlucker]

Interesting. This thread actually cheers me up. Meanwhile you're going to the surgeries thread, which I can't visit because it's too dark for me.

The pushback is here, it's just complicated. I don't think we're through the worst of it, but we're getting close. I said this before, I don't remember if it was this thread or a different one, but the only way out is through. The time is here to just let them be their fucked up selves until everyone has had a chance to see.

The thing I take hope from is how many LGB people are commenting here. The Ts are losing their closest allies, and don't even really realize it yet.

I don't think the Ts care. Billionaires are pouring money behind their cause, buying their way into governments and political groups throughout the "first world" countries. Too many industries want to push the troon agenda, so they don't "need" the LGB folks... in fact, they want the LGB folks to butcher themselves to fit their "gender" according to sexist stereotypes.

 

[Gay Communist Gun Club]

God she's insufferable. I had to skip through the two minutes of confession about "his" superior privilege in which she name-checked all the BIPOC and non-conforming and everyone who is somehow more disadvantaged than a "straight white seemingly-cis guy"... yeah yeah, gotta recite the liturgy first, I get it, but I'll spare myself the pain, thanks.

What really makes me MOTI is someone who actually understands existing in the world as a woman and how much misogyny women face, and ostensibly is "calling it out" ...while simultaneously having decided, fuck all you lame women, I am not lame so in fact I really belong to the "better" team.

Your last paragraph explains exactly why we don't want transmen in our circles. We'll give them a shot because we don't view them as a threat in any way, but if it turns into Jackson scolding us for our jokes and turning a hangout into some vaguely feminist 'calling out' session, they're getting disinvited from the group quickly. Also, they're going to need to be okay with some good natured ball busting, some of which will be about them being trans. Sorry, the elephant in the room gets acknowledged in male circles.

Men don't fear them, but we are wary.

 

[latter day taint]

I don't think the Ts care. Billionaires are pouring money behind their cause, buying their way into governments and political groups throughout the "first world" countries. Too many industries want to push the troon agenda, so they don't "need" the LGB folks... in fact, they want the LGB folks to butcher themselves to fit their "gender" according to sexist stereotypes.

Let's be honest here - there has been zero real regulator pushback on plastic surgery abuse and crappy plastic surgery. As long as the medical industry is making money on this, it will continue. These surgeries, like most plastic surgery, is a perfect racket - they need multiple revisions and likely additional surgeries later on to replace implants. The average MtF seems to have 6-8 surgeries.

Then you have the hormones. In addition to the actual hormones, there are the lab tests and doctor visits to monitor levels.

Let's also add the cottage industries such as vocal coaches and stores that cater to extreme shoe sizes and extra tall clothing. (Though the women who have big feet or are super tall do benefit from that.)

If they treated this as a mental illness, far fewer people would make money off of it.

 

[Father Brown]

Do you think is it possible that there will be a possible pushback to this trans movement in the future? This thread depress me than anything else.. pitiful people.

I do not mind people expressing themselves or getting body modifications (as long as they can accept the risk - and it should never be covered as neccesary or framed through lies). But at this time, from troons in women's sports, questionable Biden's health minister, and growing number of lonely, isolated people bought into a heavily-marketed bodily-destructing decision... it just seems like a snowball with no way to stop. Like the opiate epidemics or how smoking was suggested by doctors of the age past, but now it is your 'real, authentic self!' that's also a protected class.

This paper has already posted on the GRS surgery thread but it's still worth a read for people here. The initial trans surgeries framed itself as more of a 1. Medical experimentation, the first happened in Weimar era where the extreme acceptance of sexual experimentation were pushed to the limit. 2. To castrate people's with sexual issues as deemed at the time, not because they really believed they could turn a man into a woman. It became that way I assumed, because lying to patients is an easier way to deal with them to just done away with society 'undesirables' while reaping the profits of life long medical patients, while troons are happy that they've got their wish by their lack of understanding of anatomy. Since then the idea of gender identity has become reified into reality and it's becoming more authoritarianistic - I wonder if it could ever be stopped.

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A lot of people know that troons shit is pure delusion - but of course we can't really say that in public place anymore. If you've ever seen Hypernormalization documentary by Adam Curtis, it's that feeling of things being.. fake but people just take it as normal. Call me tinfoil-hatter but to me this whole thing just seem like human experiment project people at the top don't really care about, it just makes money.

P.S. It grinds my gears to see troons in medical/biological science field getting celebrated. Barbara/Ben Barres, and now Richard/Rachel Levine. - A big disgrace.

I think you'll see a turn eventually from a medical stand point. Gender identity will more rarely considered as in any way innate or ultimately biological in origin, and psycho-social forces will be better recognized which will stiffen things back up from a clinical perspective. I also think that as a consequence and similar forms of push back that FtM rates will come down a lot, not necessarily below where they were in say 1990 when FtMs were fairly exotic, but maybe down to the level of say 2004 or at worst 2010.

Troonism is girls, in my view, depends heavily on medical and socio-cultural legitimization which makes me hopeful. It's always worth noting that in most cases girls latch onto troonism as an answer to fairly generic problems, and often transitions are poorly or incoherently motivated. It would not be hard to suppress the phenomenon - if the will existed. As a corollary, I reckon 'non-binary' will die as a 'gender identity', even if it persists as a way of describing yourself though back in 2011 I distinctly remember thinking it was too dumb to catch on outside of niche subcultures, so maybe I'm wrong again.

I have very little faith that male troon rates will fall all that much. In my view, a materially prosperous, individualistic society, with universal internet access and with almost infinite access to pornography is probably fore-doomed to suffer the presence of a non-trivial number of troons. You could certainly do things to control the problem, but I doubt you'd ever see the political will - at least in the west - to do things like banning troon subs on reddit, or giving troon porn the CP treatment.

I doubt the women's sport invasion will get that far, it's unpopular enough in the west and my perception is that it's even less popular everywhere else. I don't think troon activists will figure out a way to crack that nut either.

 

[horsegirl666]

I think shit will hit the fan when detransition scandals become more public knowledge.

 

[Bixnood]

I think shit will hit the fan when detransition scandals become more public knowledge.

it will be majority FTM.
but that will only push it further in to the media spot light as it will be mostly white women.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

I think you'll see a turn eventually from a medical stand point. Gender identity will more rarely considered as in any way innate or ultimately biological in origin, and psycho-social forces will be better recognized which will stiffen things back up from a clinical perspective. I also think that as a consequence and similar forms of push back that FtM rates will come down a lot, not necessarily below where they were in say 1990 when FtMs were fairly exotic, but maybe down to the level of say 2004 or at worst 2010.

Troonism is girls, in my view, depends heavily on medical and socio-cultural legitimization which makes me hopeful. It's always worth noting that in most cases girls latch onto troonism as an answer to fairly generic problems, and often transitions are poorly or incoherently motivated. It would not be hard to suppress the phenomenon - if the will existed. As a corollary, I reckon 'non-binary' will die as a 'gender identity', even if it persists as a way of describing yourself though back in 2011 I distinctly remember thinking it was too dumb to catch on outside of niche subcultures, so maybe I'm wrong again.

I have very little faith that male troon rates will fall all that much. In my view, a materially prosperous, individualistic society, with universal internet access and with almost infinite access to pornography is probably fore-doomed to suffer the presence of a non-trivial number of troons. You could certainly do things to control the problem, but I doubt you'd ever see the political will - at least in the west - to do things like banning troon subs on reddit, or giving troon porn the CP treatment.

I doubt the women's sport invasion will get that far, it's unpopular enough in the west and my perception is that it's even less popular everywhere else. I don't think troon activists will figure out a way to crack that nut either.

To be fair, while I'm very gender critical myself - I'm not a radfem and I feel like male troons are sympathetic in their own way too. (I'm a woman though, just to say where my point of view came from) - Many isolated, bitter, angry men who became troons or incels are the result of alienation and individualism that has gone to far and left many men behind. Though if there's a medical pushback of gender ideology, as well as outlet for these people, the trooning rate will come down in both male and female. The number of extremely socially awkward men, some with serious past trauma who transitioned in the last few years that I've known of are pretty high. (As opposed to, effeminate gay men who wasn't accepted and pushed to 'present as women' that seem to be the majority of TIMs when I was young.)

The fetishtic wish of becoming opposite sex will remain in population though, but the issues of troons are largely how our society deal with people who have that feeling.

I sort of hope that after the initial pushback, gender ideology will be left as a quirk of 20-21st century 'science' like many other outdated medical superstitions of the past ages... but I don't know how long we've got to wait for this. I believe it'd be very different in the 2100s at least, but we'll have our version of bullshit in the future too.

Let's be honest here - there has been zero real regulator pushback on plastic surgery abuse and crappy plastic surgery. As long as the medical industry is making money on this, it will continue. These surgeries, like most plastic surgery, is a perfect racket - they need multiple revisions and likely additional surgeries later on to replace implants. The average MtF seems to have 6-8 surgeries.

Then you have the hormones. In addition to the actual hormones, there are the lab tests and doctor visits to monitor levels.

Let's also add the cottage industries such as vocal coaches and stores that cater to extreme shoe sizes and extra tall clothing. (Though the women who have big feet or are super tall do benefit from that.)

If they treated this as a mental illness, far fewer people would make money off of it.

This is exactly what I've been talking about, trans ideology, regardless if people at the top actually believe in it or not - is incredibly lucrative. Although I'd say that psychiatry and a lot of things that are treated as 'mental illness' now are also the way the system, medical complex and other cottage industries are making bank at the moment. Have you realised that in the last decade or so everyone just talked about how they're on some kind of meds and we're bombarded with awareness campaigns about how real mental illnesses are and drugs are the only way. (Many psychiatrists admitted that 'chemical imbalance' is mostly marketing) - It seems more like that a large swathe of current mental ills in people is environmental and societally generated. But of course people on top can't really address that because they're making money off this very system that are basically creating 'dysfunctional' people.

Troonism is just a result of it. - Sadly there's no easy way people could get out of this.

I think shit will hit the fan when detransition scandals become more public knowledge.

It is likely going to happen - though detransition scandals are going to be a rich cow-pasture of its own. I must admit that I feel genuinely sad for them... but I'm also very annoyed. A huge amount of detransitioners are just like troons who don't know concept of accountability, humility or genuine self acceptance... they'll just see themselves as sole victims while asking for gibs and media attention.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Your last paragraph explains exactly why we don't want transmen in our circles. We'll give them a shot because we don't view them as a threat in any way, but if it turns into Jackson scolding us for our jokes and turning a hangout into some vaguely feminist 'calling out' session, they're getting disinvited from the group quickly. Also, they're going to need to be okay with some good natured ball busting, some of which will be about them being trans. Sorry, the elephant in the room gets acknowledged in male circles.

Men don't fear them, but we are wary.

What’s also aggravating about troons is everyone else feels the need to cater to their feelings too. I have heard a ‘friendly reminder’ about someone’s pronouns in real life (a biological female but who was on T and looked male but went by ‘they’). But the person themselves didn’t do any of that — just the handmaiden beforehand.

 

[User names must be unique]

Do you think is it possible that there will be a possible pushback to this trans movement in the future? This thread depress me than anything else.. pitiful people.

I think we've hit a critical mass of troons already. Stories of Munchhausen parents, groomers in schools and medical institutions along with the cultish behaviour of the community at large are only going to shake the boat a little bit.

Perhaps the revelations would get a handful of people fired or investigated but they will always have more deluded troons than detransitioned dissenters, they'll continue to puppet around the true believers running perception management ops that will prevent the entire façade crumbling.

 

[grandpasatan]

That and with a lot of the top nude imagery the Anglo-american caucasian ones all go for the jean-boxer look showing off a brand label like Calvin Klein, like this individual below.
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Nats Getty came out 2 days ago. The blow up doll next to her is Gigi Gorgeous. So heterosexuality with extra steps.
Also Gotta love the typical tattoo bonanza MtF love to go for.

Now you may wonder "Dr Harrop, what brought you to this?" Well, aside from , I was watching Amazon Prime`s Upload, when into S1E4 there is an interview where I immediately noticed that something was off about the interviewer, looking like a blow up doll. Gigi Gorgeous, no idea who the fuck she was before that.
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The scene is great in the sense that you get a side by side comparison of a dolled up MtF and and dolled up female.
The voice is one thing, but the way Gigi moves followed by Allegra Kannerman, at least to me, hits home how stilted and acted Gorgeous movements are.
Even my "normative" friends noticed immediately that something was off, and apparentely this upperclass individual got A LOT done.

To me it just looks what a desperate older woman might look like after extensive surgery moved 20 years ahead.
All the images you can find look better like the one below.
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It`s all shops and filters, most of it falls apart the second you get to watch them in action and it gets worse when directly placed next to the real deal.

Edit: seeing his before pics triggered my gay sense, so not surprised to find that he was bisexual before identifying as "lesbian". Also wanted to study fashion, so in that sense gender-atypical male. So more EOGD that LOGD, interesting how that seems to have consistency...

Yeah, when he showed up on Upload it almost seemed based: putting him up against what he was trying to be really underscored the huge, weird difference.

He’s also a poster child for showing how transness isnt about actualizing an internal truth, but rather, it’s a trendy way to make a sad mental illness that needs real treatment a celebrated lifestyle choice. He’s not even 30 years old, and he looks like a desperate 60-year-old who their sunk their rich third husband’s alimony into plastic surgery.

It’s funny that a lot of aging (not even old, just not 22 anymore so they freak out) women who do extensive fillers/plastic surgery end up looking much more masculine because they’re juggling lowering estrogen with obliterating the small details on their face that make them feminine. It’s the same with Gigi, except he never had the estrogen in the first place. Again: He’s only 28 and he’ll never look younger than he does right now. Yikes.

 

[Gay Communist Gun Club]

What’s also aggravating about troons is everyone else feels the need to cater to their feelings too. I have heard a ‘friendly reminder’ about someone’s pronouns in real life (a biological female but who was on T and looked male but went by ‘they’). But the person themselves didn’t do any of that — just the handmaiden beforehand.

I never get the people who take cross sex hormones and do the same stuff as trans people, but don't 'identify' as the opposite sex. It's like developing a full blown drug habit and then saying, "Yeah I shared needles, traded sex for black tar, and even beat up some people for smack money. I identify outside the addict binary though."

 

[ThatDumbPhilosopher]

I never get the people who take cross sex hormones and do the same stuff as trans people, but don't 'identify' as the opposite sex. It's like developing a full blown drug habit and then saying, "Yeah I shared needles, traded sex for black tar, and even beat up some people for smack money. I identify outside the addict binary though."

Because psych wards are abandonned and mental ilnesses are now considered normal.
Hence why we get the 76 genders bullshit.
Also people that just want to feel quirky and unique in their own way because they have no noticeable feat that speak for itself in their lives.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

I never get the people who take cross sex hormones and do the same stuff as trans people, but don't 'identify' as the opposite sex. It's like developing a full blown drug habit and then saying, "Yeah I shared needles, traded sex for black tar, and even beat up some people for smack money. I identify outside the addict binary though."

I personally get it in the sense that, as someone who came from a country where there were no 'true trans' in western sense of truly identifying with opposite sex - A lot of these people don't really see themselves as really changing their sex and it is a farce for them to say so... third gender/'a particular form of non-binary' identity could be seen as a more honest form of gender expression that acknowledges reality. (I found 'binary trans' to be a very delusional and stupid concept of its own)

But the way most they/them or non-binary is framed in western world. It's purely narcissism and having a control of narrative. Or in a more benign sense, if they aren't being annoying about it, wanting words and labels to feel special about themselves. Navel-gazing shit.

 

[Gay Communist Gun Club]

Don't you love someone who was socialized as a hot chick for 22 years (there's a date tattooed on them that I assume is their T date) just dropping 'fag' like they're just one of the gay guys now? Congrats, you're basically the Lizard Man with more woke points.

So this is what she looked like at 21, hair's already shaved, septum piercing, ETC (NSFW):

https://mobile.twitter.com/thetranswolf/status/1351066187246014472

There's something really odd about the proportions though. As in there's a reason they only show from the chest up (NSFW):

https://mobile.twitter.com/thetranswolf/status/1348792478577565701/photo/2

https://mobile.twitter.com/thetranswolf/status/1349570173796143106/photo/1

UPDATE: I've absolutely been fascinated with the cute girl turned "wolf boi fag" in a matter of 8 years so I check their Twitter once a day and they keep posting old stuff. When they don't look all dolled up you can totally see the face and transition. Every before picture this person looks like different people.

Still a hell of a transformation from Catholic college girl to pure fetish degenerate transman.

 

[Rotter]

From r/askgaybros

 

[kalt]

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They were cute AF. What a shame.

Found some amusing questions on dating trans people. Of course a lot of them dislike the fact that the majority of the population won't date them.

Looking at some other threads was crazy as well. Lot's of "I support trans people but won't date them." Followed by tons of "But why" from trans people.

LOL, because deep down even hyper progressive people don't view trans women as real women. They're just terrified to come out and say it.

 

[Gay Communist Gun Club]

From r/askgaybros

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Gay men who don't give a shit are a marvelous bunch.

They were cute AF. What a shame.

Found some amusing questions on dating trans people. Of course a lot of them dislike the fact that the majority of the population won't date them.

Looking at some other threads was crazy as well. Lot's of "I support trans people but won't date them." Followed by tons of "But why" from trans people.

LOL, because deep down even hyper progressive people don't view trans women as real women. They're just terrified to come out and say it.

Imagine being an adult and being upset that people you will never meet on the internet say they don't want to fuck or date you. These people just need to be told, tough shit, you have preferences just like everyone else and I don't crawl up your ass because I'm excluded from your dating pool.

It makes more sense than the 'I don't date Democrats/Republicans' I see on dating sites now.

 

[Chapstick4Lyfe]

They were cute AF. What a shame.

Found some amusing questions on dating trans people. Of course a lot of them dislike the fact that the majority of the population won't date them.

Looking at some other threads was crazy as well. Lot's of "I support trans people but won't date them." Followed by tons of "But why" from trans people.

LOL, because deep down even hyper progressive people don't view trans women as real women. They're just terrified to come out and say it.

Exhibit #59757 of troons fixating on "genital preference". It's not just the genitals, you autists. You are also unattractive, have shitty personalities, and are beset with mental and personality disorders.

Most people are not attracted to you for the same reason most people aren't attracted to downies or people with too much cosmetic surgery—uncanny valley effect.

edit: quoted wrong post

 

[Puddleduck]

Guys ...
I have cracked Alicia's true identity!

TERRENCE MULLENS
he's a lecturer at San Jose State Univerity
phone: (408 ) 924-5207
email: terrence.mullens@sjsu.edu

Teaching about weather

Twitter
LinkedIn
RateMyProf (pretty good teacher apparently!)

Spoiler: The "paper trail"

He's a Meteorologist

Alicia Heather is a meteorologist who lives near San Francisco in an apartment with his wife. Alicia "can't" transition, he says, because of his job, his friends, and his wife. I'm assuming this means that his wife is okay-ish with the crossdressing, but doesn't want him to transition full time.

On his deleted Reddit he said he was a professor

Great question! As a college professor myself, here are my thoughts

https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/ctpz9n/whats_a_good_way_to_phrase_an_email_my_professor/

I lost the post where he said this, but he lives in San Jose.



so I googled Meteorologist Professor San Jose and found the faculty teaching list, where he clearly is!

https://www.sjsu.edu/meteorology/people/res_teaching_fac/index.html

cc.

I wanna know this dude's backstory.