US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[wopirish]

You think the DNC might prop up Biden and his VP and Cabinet picks to set up a government in exile in a country more friendly to the DNC then to the Trump Administration?

Considering how they acted before and after 2016 elections, they might just do something as autistically insane as that or similar. Hillary had that book written "If I Won" or something like that which was basically a wish-fulfillment fanfic. Wouldn't be too absurd to think they would pull that.

 

[X Prime]

• I insisted that he said that we need to take the essence of the allegation as true, she made "the essence" be that "she was assaulted" as opposed to "she was assaulted by Joe Biden" before conjecturing that she could have been drunk and mistook her assaulter.

Please tell me the first thing you responded to that with was "did you apply that standard to Blassey Ford's allegations?"

I am pretty sure that exact thing was brought up back then and Democrats howled in rage.

 

[Screw Danlon]

A not-insignificant portion of the people who are pushing Tara Reade to the fore are actually people who were in the Bernie camp. A lot of them are unsurprisingly incredibly pissed off at their loser losing for the second time in a row, and they're venting that anger by driving this home against the Democrats in any way they can find.

I'm just enjoying it because this is the last scrap of anything resembling principals that the mainstream Left even had. They completely abandoned their anti-Big Business crusade when Occupy Wall Street collapsed and most of them defend mega-corporations now (It's a private company etc), they don't care about the environment anymore because they just scream Climate Change which means nothing, they've given up on pretending they're not racist because not only do most of them fucking detest white people, but if a minority crosses the line they'll straight-up start tossing racial slurs at them, they don't give a rat's ass about freedom because they openly embrace authoritarianism at the drop of a hat, and now Believe All Women and Me Too has just been thrown under a bus, all for the sake of politics.

Every decision they make is politically-driven. There's no standard, there's no principal, there's no morals, it's all politics and emotion all the way to the baseboards. Even if Joe Biden is completely innocent it doesn't even fucking matter anymore because so many of them openly declared that they'd vote for him even though they believe he's literally raped someone.

But aside from more people getting disillusioned, it’s not like any of this is new.

I remember telling a coworker back in 2007 that the reason I don’t believe in voting is that there are definitely some well-meaning and principled politicians on both sides of the aisles, but they’re shouting into a monumental void of people whose only principles are doing whatever they need to to maintain their own grasp on power and whatever benefit the average person gets out of it is purely tangential.

I mean, let’s be honest, if these people genuinely cared about change and principles first, they’d be looking to solve problems rather than find problems, and they’d be fine with losing elections if it meant a more capable person got in, and then they’d maybe even. try to work with the person who beat them to at least ensure the ideals made it even if they didn’t.

But it’s all politics and emotion down here because it’s all jealousy and ego up there.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Please tell me the first thing you responded to that with was "did you apply that standard to Blassey Ford's allegations?"

I am pretty sure that exact thing was brought up back then and Democrats howled in rage.

We never really talked about Kavanaugh before. I don't even think it was something she paid attention to, either way.

It was a pretty poor argument in its own right, so the gotcha wouldn't have been necessary. She put words Biden never said into his mouth specifically in order to avoid acknowledging that Biden has been hoist by his own petard re: believing women. When that didn't stand, she avoided the common-sense understanding of "the essence" that Biden referred to in order to assert that Reade may have been assaulted, but not necessarily by Biden, and she wouldn't have known because she maybe she was too drunk to properly recognize who the assailant was. This all happened in a discussion where we continuously flipped inbetween the assumption that he did it and the assumption that he didn't do it, while I never asserted that he did. This was also a discussion where she impugned Reade repeatedly through character allegations and other ultimately irrelevant details.

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

I did hear one horrifying prospect on Tim Pool's channel.

Clinton / Obama replacing Biden / Whoever. That is, Clinton with Obama as VP pick. Bernie's base would walk the fuck away, I imagine, but not all of them, and Obama brings with him every advantage Biden has and then some. No idea how Trump could win that particular clusterfuck.

At best and if everyone was asleep, dead or high, Obama would become president for two years maximum on a technicality. And that isn't going to fly.

Barack Obama is not eligible to become President of the United States again. Ever.

Tim Pool doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

[Socrates]

We never really talked about Kavanaugh before. I don't even think it was something she paid attention to, either way.

It was a pretty poor argument in its own right, so the gotcha wouldn't have been necessary. She put words Biden never said into his mouth specifically in order to avoid acknowledging that Biden has been hoist by his own petard re: believing women. When that didn't stand, she avoided the common-sense understanding of "the essence" that Biden referred to in order to assert that Reade may have been assaulted, but not necessarily by Biden, and she wouldn't have known because she maybe she was too drunk to properly recognize who the assailant was. This all happened in a discussion where we continuously flipped inbetween the assumption that he did it and the assumption that he didn't do it, while I never asserted that he did. This was also a discussion where she impugned Reade repeatedly through character allegations and other ultimately irrelevant details.

People on any side of the political divide will do pretty impressive mental gymnastics to justify their choices, but the Tara Reade thing has brought the cognitive dissonance up to 11 among progressives. You can literally watch on twitter the struggle sessions and careful narrative construction going on to desperately make the oil of Biden's campaigns response to the allegations mix with the water that is the modern #metoo movement. I think this is the first time I've ever seen them get put into a political checkmate of this scale.

 

[Syaoran Li]

At best and if everyone was asleep, dead or high, Obama would become president for two years maximum on a technicality. And that isn't going to fly.

Barack Obama is not eligible to become President of the United States again. Ever.

Tim Pool doesn't know what he is talking about.

I haven't seen the Tim Pool video but I'm going to have to second the possibility that he may have been talking about Michelle Obama.

As idiotic as it sounds, she is a woman of color and doesn't have the baggage that Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton does. It'd be easier to pull off the "Obama Nostalgia" card with her as VP.

Now that Stacey Abrams has been BTFO'd by the Biden campaign, I still think they're probably going to pick Hillary as VP so she can run for president by proxy.

Either move is a disaster for the DNC, and the only things keeping this from being a landslide victory for Trump is the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic/economic shutdown and the fact that the MSM and Silicon Valley are actively trying to run interference for Biden so they can try to keep 2016 from happening again.

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

Michelle Obama as President of the United States?

It's half way through May and she has no policy positions, no support, and no history. The election is in November. Are you people high?

 

[Flexo]

Michelle Obama as President of the United States?

It's half way through May and she has no policy positions, no support, and no history. The election is in November. Are you people high?

It worked for her husband, didn't it?

(The joke being that Obama was mostly an empty suit that people projected their hopes and dreams on.)

 

[Spiteful Crow]

Michelle Obama as President of the United States?

It's half way through May and she has no policy positions, no support, and no history. The election is in November. Are you people high?

They can always just harness the power of media and cyberbullying to shame people into voting for her anyway. Do you really think Pelosi is above going balls to the wall for a loser?

These are Democrats. "Standards" are just saying the right things on camera so that Arianna Huffington will write nice things about you.

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

Yeah yeah but we're talking about swapping in a brand new candidate after the primaries. One that never took part in those primaries. Come on.

I think at least a few of the other candidates would have a problem with that. Not to mention their supporters.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Michelle Obama as President of the United States?

It's half way through May and she has no policy positions, no support, and no history. The election is in November. Are you people high?

No, but it's the kind of move so dumb and reeking of desperation that the DNC would probably do it or at least give it serious consideration

I don't think they'd swap out Biden with Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton, but a VP pick with Biden as a figurehead is not out of the question.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Michelle is not going to hitch her wagon to dementia Joe. If she ever runs, it will be as the head of the ticket.

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

I don't think they'd swap out Biden with Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton, but a VP pick with Biden as a figurehead is not out of the question.

Meanwhile Dick Cheney is laughing in the back room. He never had to try this hard to be Secret President.

 

[Flexo]

Yeah yeah but we're talking about swapping in a brand new candidate after the primaries. One that never took part in those primaries. Come on.

I think at least a few of the other candidates would have a problem with that. Not to mention their supporters.

Normally yes, but I think you're underestimating how much blacks are a sacred object to Democrats. Michelle or Barack could eat a baby on live TV and the only question the media and the party's rank & file would ask is what sauce they wanted with it.

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

Normally yes, but I think you're underestimating how much blacks are a sacred object to Democrats. Michelle or Barack could eat a baby on live TV and the only question the media and the party's rank & file would ask is what sauce they wanted with it.

Maybe I am underestimating the state of things.

But also maybe you guys aren't sharing those awesome doobs with me. Come onnnnnnn!

 

[murdered meat bag]

Yeah yeah but we're talking about swapping in a brand new candidate after the primaries. One that never took part in those primaries. Come on.

I think at least a few of the other candidates would have a problem with that. Not to mention their supporters.

Depends if the average democrat voter is rooting more for "Vote Blue No matter who" than "my candidate should be president". it's a unifying rally cry that can turn away the people on the fence or the progressives. I think the faithful will vote for michelle obama, but the bernie bros would probably not.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Michelle Obama as President of the United States?

It's half way through May and she has no policy positions, no support, and no history. The election is in November. Are you people high?

She is a black POC, the Democrats will vote for her with for no other reason than that.

 

[OnMoTi]

She is a black POC, the Democrats will vote for her with for no other reason than that.

I'm going to take it "POC" in this instance means "picker of cotton," yes?

 

[Flexo]

Depends if the average democrat voter is rooting more for "Vote Blue No matter who" than "my candidate should be president". it's a unifying rally cry that can turn away the people on the fence or the progressives. I think the faithful will vote for michelle obama, but the bernie bros would probably not.

It won't be a nonzero number of bernie bros, but I doubt it would be enough for statisticians to notice.

When the Left accuses the Right of Trump fans being a cult, they're projecting from their feelings towards Obama. I mean have you ever looked into Ta-Nehisi Coates? 2 steps above a hack and yet you will find unending praise for him all over the internet.