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Its not about the support of their base, its the support of their donors. As much as people like to portray the republicans as owned by corporations, its nothing compared to the Dems. They just are more crafty about hiding it, but more beholden to their corporate masters because of it.
Nah. I think the GOP is just as much in corporate pockets as the DNC.
However, the Republican Party has been hijacked by a populist. A populist who is ironically a corporate mogul, but now the GOP has been forced to bend the knee to its own base.
 
I think we'll see companies having to abandon woke culture or die in the post Coronavirus world. Sadly Disney seems to be choosing death in this situation. In the past week I've read that they're going ahead with that female centric Star Wars series, doing an all female POTC reboot and looking at bringing Ironheart to MCU.

I think a lot of that has to do with Disney being the unstoppable juggernaut of 2010's Hollywood thanks to the MCU and the capeshit fad, but not of all it is hubris. I'd say a lot of these things were already greenlit months or even years before COVID-19 and they're making them partly out of contractual obligation.

The more dubious MCU decisions like Ironheart and Lady Thor probably were greenlit because Disney wants to keep the capeshit gravy train rolling post-Endgame. Unlike the actual Marvel comics, the MCU is one of the few franchises that has gone woke but hasn't gone broke just yet.

Black Panther and Captain Marvel are really the only major "woke" franchise movies that were actually successful, even if the former's woke marketing success was largely a fluke and the latter banked on the hype leading up to Endgame.

There's a reason why I think an MCU box office bomb will be the definitive death knell for woke culture.

Getting back to topic, I'm going to second what @Shield Breaker said about Obama not getting arrested, or even convicted.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if at least a few of his administration's guys get busted, or at least indicted or subpoenaed if this investigation actually goes somewhere (and if Trump wins 2020, it's a definite possibility) but Obama himself is pretty much untouchable.

At worst, he may end up in a Nixon scenario where he gets preemptively pardoned or given immunity while other big fish get taken down, but is effectively out of politics for good.
 
Never mind that the Patriot Act was a bipartisan affair.
In which Joe Biden is involved.
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He has aged poorly. He looks like he's about five fishmeals away from exiting his cave and ranting about his precious legacy.
He's the only President I've known who not only aged poorly in office, but has continued to age at an accelerated rate once leaving despite nobody really talking about him. Carter left in almost total disgrace, and was spry enough to still be jogging and swinging a hammer on a job site into his 80's without looking cadaverous since he'd moved on from that part of his life... but Barry must be spending every waking hour worrying to keep getting that grey.... worrying about his disintegrating legacy and his inability to put it back together....
Trump is living inside his head.

Rent free.
 
It's more important to convict the rank-and-file anyway, IMHO. As powerful as the President is, corruption at that level requires a horde of Yes-men or co-conspirators to pull off.

If THEY know they're going to jail even if what they did stays hidden until years later, they'll be less inclined to do the bidding of a corrupt Chief Executive who tradition demands not be prosecuted if he manages to keep scandal tamped down enough to get out of office ahead of it. I kinda am okay with the soft "diplomatic immunity" model where you don't prosecute ex-Presidents, and only have impeachment to deal with alleged crimes while in power. The President isn't above the law, but let's be real, the power vested in them means for the time they hold the office it's unreasonable and unrealistic to think their legal status should be the same as a common citizen. That period of their life should remain encapsulated as outside the bounds of typical prosecution. (Typical not meaning "any" but, like I said, if he's fucked up bad enough, impeach him, and if you can't, then too bad, you lose the chance. No President should have to live under the constant shadow of purely political post-office revenge prosecutions when they're just back to being a "regular" guy.

Look at what they did to Trump for no other reason than base political disagreements and tell me removing those unofficial protections would not cause Banana Republic-level chaos as every President would be permanently embattled while in office, making decisions based not on the needs of the Republic but on appeasing those who are already plotting to be waiting outside the White House on inauguration day to slap the cuffs on him for rinky-dink charges that exist only to make him miserable in perpetuity after his term(S) for keeping them out of power for the last 4/8 years....

Not prosecuting a departing President for things done IN said Presidency is a necessary evil to keep the system functional. Because surely you can imagine the wild abuse you invite otherwise.

I think you're pretty much right. I actually legit think Obama came in squeaky clean and naive, completely unprepared for how dirty the political game actually was, but functioned as the figurehead and went along with all of it and it bothered him badly. He knows he caved and fully cooperated with the scumbags and by the end of his second term I think he was just fucking done. Anyone who wasn't completely disillusioned with the DNC before certainly is now, the Kavanaugh lynching, impeachment clown show and pushing creepy senile Biden must be hard to watch for anyone who had any sort of naive, optimistic faith in what the party pretends to stand for. I think Obama is still bothered, but also privately thanking his lucky stars they didn't start smearing their own shit on the walls publicly until he was out of office. Trump fucked with Obama a little when he started the birth certificate thing, but he's too politically astute to call him out for anything serious. He's just giving the DNC the rope and letting them hang themselves, if stuff comes out that makes Obama look bad, it is what it is, but I don't think Trump cares one way or the other.
 
I think the "best move" with regards to taking out Obama would be to go after every one of his cronies and just leave him alone.
Makes more sense to. With every crony in jail, you can make the public case that Obama SHOULD be in jail, and let people come to their own conclusions as to why he isn't. The mainstream media can't defend him in such a scenario, there is no shields to defend with. So, they'll be silent, hoping their near monolithic control will allow them to prevent it being known by sheer refusal to talk about it.
 
Black Panther and Captain Marvel are really the only major "woke" franchise movies that were actually successful, even if the former's woke marketing success was largely a fluke and the latter banked on the hype leading up to Endgame.

Honestly if anything Black Panther called out the #woke extremely thoroughly... most of them were just so fucking stupid and shallow that they failed to see they were being called out and instead started sucking the cock of the character created to say "This is you and this is exactly why you are an asshole" because they were incapable of seeing what was wrong with his actions. It still had a handful of stupid wokeness moments but even those sort of made sense in context. (All you have to do is assume the filmmakers actually understood that Shuri was a snotty brat and her mouthing off makes sense.)
 
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Honestly if anything Black Panther called out the #woke extremely thoroughly... most of them were just so fucking stupid and shallow that they failed to see they were being called out and instead started sucking the cock of the character created to say "This is you and this is exactly why you are an asshole" because they were incapable of seeing what was wrong with his actions. It still had a handful of stupid wokeness moments but even those sort of made sense in context. (All you have to do is assume the filmmakers actually understood that Shuri was a snotty brat and her mouthing off makes sense.)

Only thing that really bothers me about Black Panther is that the movie only happens cause the T'Challa is a dumb fuck. He should have told Killmonger that he was too late and to suck his dick. If he protests clap him in irons. Roll credits. Shame cause his character seemed like such a bad ass in Civil War and now he goes down as the second biggest idiot in the MCU after Peter Quill for mine.
 
Only thing that really bothers me about Black Panther is that the movie only happens cause the T'Challa is a dumb fuck. He should have told Killmonger that he was too late and to suck his dick. If he protests clap him in irons. Roll credits. Shame cause his character seemed like such a bad ass in Civil War and now he goes down as the second biggest idiot in the MCU after Peter Quill for mine.

Eh, I give that leeway because for one thing "The protagonist makes a stupid decision because there's no other way for the rest of the movie to happen" is just a common fiction trope that as long as it's not too utterly braindead of one it's forgivable... saying "But if characters just did the rational thing the movie would be over in fifteen minutes!" becomes a kind of tiresome argument when you realize this means every movie would end on an anticlimax and in fifteen minutes. The other is that they essentially set it up to why he would be vulnerable to being emotionally manipulated into accepting the challenge by establishing his feelings of betrayal towards his father and his own guilt towards his uncle and cousin, so yeah Cold Calculating King T'Challa could have easily just had Killmonger thrown off the giant panther-jaw-shaped cliff but T'Challa who's still reeling from learning his father was an unprincipled dick accepting it makes way more sense.
 
Isn't the rule of the kingdom that since Killmonger won fair and square in that waterfall fight. That he is the legitimate ruler of the place and hence Tchalla led an illegal coup with the stolen powers of the black panther?
 
White people "Noping" at the prospect of convicting Black Jeebus would be the ONLY reason, modern Hood Rats don't give a crap about Obama anymore if he's not the one signing the gibs checks and even if the media DID try to rile them up, they wouldn't listen. They'd only have to rile up the guilt of the average suburban Democrat enough to guarantee any random selection of 12 people would include one of them firmly in the "I won't be racist and convict a black man, no matter what".

Hood rats will immediately jump to his defense, not because they like him, but because he's black. The same way trailer rats defended people like Eliot Rogers because of the races involved.

I think you're pretty much right. I actually legit think Obama came in squeaky clean and naive, completely unprepared for how dirty the political game actually was, but functioned as the figurehead and went along with all of it and it bothered him badly. He knows he caved and fully cooperated with the scumbags and by the end of his second term I think he was just fucking done. Anyone who wasn't completely disillusioned with the DNC before certainly is now, the Kavanaugh lynching, impeachment clown show and pushing creepy senile Biden must be hard to watch for anyone who had any sort of naive, optimistic faith in what the party pretends to stand for. I think Obama is still bothered, but also privately thanking his lucky stars they didn't start smearing their own shit on the walls publicly until he was out of office. Trump fucked with Obama a little when he started the birth certificate thing, but he's too politically astute to call him out for anything serious. He's just giving the DNC the rope and letting them hang themselves, if stuff comes out that makes Obama look bad, it is what it is, but I don't think Trump cares one way or the other.

Obama came from Chicago. His ass was crooked before he was a senator.
 
Isn't the rule of the kingdom that since Killmonger won fair and square in that waterfall fight. That he is the legitimate ruler of the place and hence Tchalla led an illegal coup with the stolen powers of the black panther?

Fight was to the yield or to the death, not to the being-pushed-over-a-waterfall. T'challa didn't yield or die, the fact that Killmonger didn't know that was irrelevant, if he gave a shit about his rule being legitimate he would've sent someone to find the body.
 
At worst, he may end up in a Nixon scenario where he gets preemptively pardoned or given immunity while other big fish get taken down, but is effectively out of politics for good.
Imagine if Trump pardoned Obama for all this stuff after giving a long Comey-like speech detailing every crime. Pardon Obama but destroy every minion, bureaucrat, and intern involved.
 
Hood rats will immediately jump to his defense, not because they like him, but because he's black.

Not if they don't get anything from it. Black solidarity is a myth. Blacks don't support blacks unless immediate gibs flow from it. The ignored weekend bodycount in any ghetto is proof. But as soon as a white cop or store owner proves faster on the draw than Tyrone? Watch out, here comes the horde.... cuz' there's money to be made!

They stood to get lots of attention and bigger handouts for rallying around Obama when he was in power, or maybe it was only so they could burn down their neighborhoods and not get arrested for it.

But now, they get nothing from defending his legacy so they don't care. "Fuck Drumpf the Racisst" is the new mating call that gets all the gibs, they're already forgetting about Obama because invoking the name can't do shit for them anymore.

However, white progressives and internet POC-activists still get clickbait money from writing "don't you wish we still had Obama?" and "Despite Obama, white people are still horrid racists" articles for places like Vice, so they still defend him.

Though given how bad Vice-like internet sites are crumbling, watch for even that to peter out in a year or two, especially if Biden gets BTFO'd .

Either way, the hood rats, if they ever supported him at all, checked out on Election Night and aren't coming back.
 
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Not if they don't get anything from it. Black solidarity is a myth. Blacks don't support blacks unless immediate gibs flow from it. The weekend bodycount in any ghetto is proof.

They stood to get lots of attention and bigger handouts for rallying around Obama when he was in power, or maybe it was only so they could burn down their neighborhoods and not get arrested for it.

But now, they get nothing from defending his legacy so they don't care. "Fuck Drumpf the Racisst" is the new mating call that gets all the gibs, they're already forgetting about Obama because invoking the name can't do shit for them anymore.

However, white progressives and internet POC-activists still get clickbait money from writing "don't you wish we still had Obama?" and "Despite Obama, white people are still horrid racists" articles for places like Vice, so they still defend him.

Though given how bad Vice-like internet sites are crumbling, watch for even that to peter out in a year or two, especially if Biden gets BTFO'd .

Either way, the hood rats, if they ever supported him at all, checked out on Election Night and aren't coming back.
Blacks might not ideologically support it, but they will use it as an excuse to riot and burn cities.
 
MJ died in June 2009, months after Obama was elected. Election was 2008.

Fuck, that's right. See, everything just blends together after a while, I thought he had died while school was still in session.

Wow, can't believe it's been ten years...

This whole sub-discussion on African American support for Obama vs. Trump just reminds me of Lavell Crawford on Obama.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lS0YVP5XGB0

Been posted several times, but seriously, I think this is a good summary of how some blacks view Obama. I thought I also saw something even before 2016 where some people were criticizing Obama for being "too white" because of how he was raised. Him being mixed-race I think didn't help in that regard even though that may have helped in getting him elected because he's not "fully" black. That's always been why it is it's stupid he's gonna be historically known as the first black President when that's only half-true, he's more-or-less the first mixed-race President, but they wanted to play up the black angle more to feel more progressive when it's already progressive that he's half-black.
 
Honestly if anything Black Panther called out the #woke extremely thoroughly... most of them were just so fucking stupid and shallow that they failed to see they were being called out and instead started sucking the cock of the character created to say "This is you and this is exactly why you are an asshole" because they were incapable of seeing what was wrong with his actions. It still had a handful of stupid wokeness moments but even those sort of made sense in context. (All you have to do is assume the filmmakers actually understood that Shuri was a snotty brat and her mouthing off makes sense.)
But Shuri being racist and crying about "colonizers" makes no sense in the setting. Wakanda was never colonized, and all of the colonization ended decades before she was born. She would've grown up around black tribal warlords murdering and enslaving each other (like the group that BP opens the movie by fighting.) Then again, the villain (who the left decided to lionize) also comes across as retarded. His father was murdered by a fellow black man, he benefited from affirmative action his entire life, yet when he assumed the throne, his first move was to start a global race war.
 
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