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Some people are edgy until their views become mainstream, after which they strictly toe party lines. It's basically political law.
I almost feel like they were never that edgy about politics in the first place, just about content. Their content may still be repulsive or avant-garde, but leftism hasn't been countercultural since 1965.
 
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These are often the same people who believe the government is near omniscient, and capable of fixing every problem that arises within a week of it arising. I wish that was hyperbole, but they honestly believe it. These are also often the same people who believe that Bernie Sander's getting in office means that all his policy proposals will just be signed into law the day he gets in. Legislative Branch? Judicial? What are those!? The President just Signs an Executive Order and it becomes law, right? /sneed
From what I've gathered, and I don't know if this is necessarily true, the grant was approved months before the election and signed off on/finalized during the handover period at the start of 2017. Even if someone had briefed Trump on a CDC issue he might not have had time to stop it.
It seems like there is a world conceptualization problem. Kind of in the same way that some twat barista in a coffee shop complains that she does all the work and her boss is never there. They don't understand what is happening behind he scenes... the endless hours, the legal and tax shit, all that. It's people who have no understanding of business trying to force their myopic snapshot as THE WAY IT WORKS to the horrified look of the boss's face and their childish understanding. And it's even worse with government. See AOC for instance. I think even Pelosi had nno idea what to do with that level of ignorance without a shitload of advisors.

The interesting thing is that the RNC seems content to always pay the same amount, calculated for interest. This means they have continued building up the warchest since they don't turn any surge of donations into a surge of advertising. An observor might note they now have enough to do a similar, Dean style push while at the same time having enough to defend themselves come the election after.

Political theorizing time: The RNC is setting up to do a Dean Push in 2024. The reason they did not do it in 2016 is due to lack of faith in Trump at the time, and the reason they won't do it in 2020 is faith in him and not wanting to waste the money on a weak opponent.

That's really interesting. I'd guess they'll wait one more election if McConnell is in and they think they can have a majority in either the senate or the house. I'm not sure they will act so intelligently if McConnell isn't involved. I don't really care for the guy at all, but he's incrdibly canny, and doesn't really go out on a limb, just plods along as a pile of skulls builds up behind him.
Are you saying even Republicans were concerned about Trump and their reputation as a political party after 2016?

The way I see it, Trump is the RNC's wild card now. There will NEVER be another President like Trump for better or worse. He'll sink the RNC if they go out of line as he would the DNC. He isn't loyal to anybody but his own interests.

2024, I could see the RNC going back to normalcy a la 2004 because a Trump endorsement would isolate many voters on both sides. They want a government puppet they can control like Bush and Obama.
I think somewhere between Kavanaugh and the Government shutdown, a great deal of loyalty to Trump was built in the party, and a great deal of loyalty to the party was built in Trump. There was a major shift in tone during that period, and it wasn't just the mid-term. I honestly don't see the Republican party going back to the old ways, and the Kavanaugh thing might have been the tipping point. McCarthy, Rubio, Gaetz, Cruz, McConnell, hell, even Goemert aren't like the party was even two years ago. There are still the Romneys and Mike Lees, and sadly, a good traditional Republican, Gowdy, is gone, but the last few years have been a wake up call, I think, and there are enough of the pary intelligensia who can read the wind. The Democrats have shown they will ruin anyone for anything less than total compliance, and I think the Repulicans now generally understand that. In a way, fucking guys like Flynn and Stone and Manafort may have galvanized them.
 
A group of DNC insiders, which for lack of a better term we'll call The Obama Loyalists (it might even more accurate to call them Dean Loyalists*), didn't like this and though the field should be open;
Those Obama loyalists must be dumb as hell then. The field was open this year and you saw the clown show they came up with. This is the best they have. The 2020 election is their World Series Game 7 on the road. If there was any time when you'd want to start your ace, this would be it. The fact that Biden is their ace and apparent nominee, who's only in the position because the field was cleared for him, is all you need to know about their roster. Since they all sucked in 2020, by extension they probably sucked in 2016 too. So I don't know who they think would have been better off with if 2016 was open.

Ultimately, the fact that they cleared the field for Killary is irrelevant in my book. She was the best they had and would have wound up on top anyway. I stand by my long held belief that, for all the flak she got, she is by far the most credible candidate out of the Dems' 2016 and 2020 fields.
 
Are you saying even Republicans were concerned about Trump and their reputation as a political party after 2016?

The way I see it, Trump is the RNC's wild card now. There will NEVER be another President like Trump for better or worse. He'll sink the RNC if they go out of line as he would the DNC. He isn't loyal to anybody but his own interests.

2024, I could see the RNC going back to normalcy a la 2004 because a Trump endorsement would isolate many voters on both sides. They want a government puppet they can control like Bush and Obama.

RNC has two choices go with someone saffer like the Zodiac Killer but still an actual conservative or lose, the reality is if they go back to someone like Romney they are SOL. The hope is that Romney and to some extent trump showed them that no matter who is in office dems and the media will hate them and they need to pick someone the people want and not who they think the DNC and the fith estate like. Hopefully they have learned that to the media any republican is a bad republican and they start putting people in that actual reflect the RNC values. That being said how the RNC works after trump is honestly anyones guess they went off the rails and by sure luck found success they don't know how to repeat it so once trumps gone it will be a show.


Just want to highlight this is coming from people named "Fistymcbuttpuncher" and "Dick-Fuck-Pussy-Suck" as Garfield once said, They are not sending their best.
 
To think some still think the right-wing media is worse. In regards to us trying to defend Trump's statements:

"I heard what Trump actually said well before the (well deserved) memes started pouring out. The disingenuous part of right wing bullshit like this is that, when we clearly see that Trump suggested that "injecting disinfectant" was something "doctors should look into," if the media doesn't quote the EXACT word salad that came out of Trump's mouth, the Far Right will jump on them and say it's fake news or he was misquoted. No, it isn't, some of us have command of English and can paraphrase and understand paraphrased things. This is part of the Right Wing strategy of spreading disinformation, Trump says something profoundly stupid, and anyone who factually reports what was said (or factually reports that the companies that make Chlorox/Lysol made a PSA to not inject/ingest their product, even though they did) is "fake news" and "a hoax.""

So apparently, we are the ones who don't have all the facts, or something, because we don't understand paraphrasing.
 
To think some still think the right-wing media is worse. In regards to us trying to defend Trump's statements:

"I heard what Trump actually said well before the (well deserved) memes started pouring out. The disingenuous part of right wing bullshit like this is that, when we clearly see that Trump suggested that "injecting disinfectant" was something "doctors should look into," if the media doesn't quote the EXACT word salad that came out of Trump's mouth, the Far Right will jump on them and say it's fake news or he was misquoted. No, it isn't, some of us have command of English and can paraphrase and understand paraphrased things. This is part of the Right Wing strategy of spreading disinformation, Trump says something profoundly stupid, and anyone who factually reports what was said (or factually reports that the companies that make Chlorox/Lysol made a PSA to not inject/ingest their product, even though they did) is "fake news" and "a hoax.""

So apparently, we are the ones who don't have all the facts, or something, because we don't understand paraphrasing.
>hehe drumpf said "injecting disinfectant" and le Far Right are jumping on the bandwagon
>no he totally didn't mention UV therapy less than a minute before

When will these retards ever learn?

On a related note, I'm pretty sure the only people who are dumb enough to actually inject bleach into themselves are the ones who think Trump actually said to "inject disinfectant", with the context at least.
 
RNC has two choices
I think you're very off base if you think the RNC has a choice in the matter. Not any more at least. 2016 showed the GOP base is gonna pick who the base wants and to hell with what the establishment wants. While the establishment does maintain a lot of the power, the base still has at least 51% of it.

This ain't the DNC where they can just shove a senile Joe Biden or some other establishment candidate down their electorate's throat and they take it. The base has seen what happened after Reagan with the losers Bush Sr, Bush Jr, McCain and Romney. Ain't gonna let that happen again.
 
The chattering classes hiding their barely concealed insecurity behind endless disdain for the poor. Do we live in an entirely too on the nose mid-19th century novel or something?
 
To think some still think the right-wing media is worse. In regards to us trying to defend Trump's statements:

"I heard what Trump actually said well before the (well deserved) memes started pouring out. The disingenuous part of right wing bullshit like this is that, when we clearly see that Trump suggested that "injecting disinfectant" was something "doctors should look into," if the media doesn't quote the EXACT word salad that came out of Trump's mouth, the Far Right will jump on them and say it's fake news or he was misquoted. No, it isn't, some of us have command of the English language (FTFY) and can paraphrase and understand paraphrased things. This is part of the Right Wing strategy of spreading disinformation, Trump says something profoundly stupid, and anyone who factually reports what was said (or factually reports that the companies that make Chlorox/Lysol made a PSA to not inject/ingest their product, even though they did) is "fake news" and "a hoax.""

So apparently, we are the ones who don't have all the facts, or something, because we don't understand paraphrasing.

Please work on composition that was more incoherent and rambly than how the president talks. Here's a quick question, do you know that there are other types of disinfectants than bleach? did you know that uv rays are one of them? Did you know there is a form of therapy being tested that will inject led lights into your lung to produce UV lights and then are removed? Did you know that was what he was referencing? Did you know that the sentence Disinfectant in the lungs comes from starts of with talking about previously mentioned UV light therapy?

I'm guessing not since you seem to equate disinfectant to bleach and don't seem to realize that the media did the same. Now with you that's you reading headlines and getting stuck in an echo chamber where people summarize the press conference and take them at there word. For the press it's them actionable misinterpreting his statement ignoring that he was referencing UV therapy in the same god damn sentence and what we call FAKE NEWS. As for the companies sending out PSA's well that kind of happens when you have the other end of the bell curve and the media is repeating the Drink bleach lie on a 24 hour news cycle you kind of have to.

No to put what they did in a way you can understand I'm going to quote you

To think some still think the right-wing media is worse
I am then going to go over to TES and post you're quote and joke that you were on TDS talking about how Fox was the most reliable news source, now the people on the kiwifarms tend to be a little smarter than the average twitter user so I expect them to actually go to this thread and double check but undoubtedly someone will take it as fact. Now imaging if I was a multi billion corporation, I controlled almost every new channel and could get any defense of what you said flagged and claim people shouldn't talk to you because you're nuts and they agreed. That's were the president is, if you watched the press briefing and still think he was referring to bleach or lysol than you either haven't learned there are non chemical disinfectants or you just don't want to admit you're wrong.

TL DR we had a thread war yesterday over this topic the least you can do is read both TES and TDS and come back with some new material.

PS learn where to put ""
 
Trump retweeted an unflattering animated edit of a picture of Joe Biden, with a very explicit header on the original tweet saying it was a deep fake.

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I wonder how long until he's accused of forging video footage or other such shit. Oh, and here's what he retweeted, for your viewing pleasure.





 

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I wonder how long until he's accused of forging video footage or other such shit. Oh, and here's what he retweeted, for your viewing pleasure.





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Okay, Mr President? If you have an account on here, you can tell us. We won’t tell anyone, we promise.
 
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