💊 Manosphere Marijan Šiklić (ThatIncelBlogger) 2: The Revenge

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My citations are, for the most part, myself and other ladies I know and talk with on a daily basis. Your world view is that women love violent men and rapists and want nothing more than their spines broken. I, as a woman, say that this isn't true. That's citation enough. You are a man and so I have a higher "authority of evidence" than you do.

If I were to say "Men love fucking sheep" and you said "No, they don't. I'm a man and I do not love fucking sheep", then I would have to be the one to prove men love fucking sheep.
My citations are, for the most part, myself and other ladies I know and talk with on a daily basis. Your world view is that women love violent men and rapists and want nothing more than their spines broken. I, as a woman, say that this isn't true. That's citation enough. You are a man and so I have a higher "authority of evidence" than you do.

If I were to say "Men love fucking sheep" and you said "No, they don't. I'm a man and I do not love fucking sheep", then I would have to be the one to prove men love fucking sheep.
Ÿoure saying you have lonely sheep that need husbands? :oops:

No we have a whole subforum about sheepfuckers Holden is insane scum even with loveshy and wizard.
 
Wait, I missed that. So Holden wants to bang ladies who look like dudes now?
Yup. The question was asked here:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/marijan-Šiklić-thatincelblogger.6576/page-142#post-446663

And he responded here:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/marijan-Šiklić-thatincelblogger.6576/page-146

@Holden confirmed for liking the cock (as long as it's in a dress).
 
This was obvious after point 1.

And you're a cowardly idiot who refused to answer any of my other points. Where are your sources where western women worship abuse? Cite 'em.

So can you tell me how my relationship is wrong? Mr. Owl hasn't beat me, yet I'm still with him, obviously disproving your theory wrong.
 
Well no. His girlfriend tried to leave him 3 times, each time only staying because he threatened to kill her,

One of the biggest logical flaws in Holden's worldview is that he assumes that somebody who doesn't immediately leave an abusive relationship must be 100% OK with being abused, as opposed to trapped, isolated, confused or just scared.
 
Oh my, stupid @Holden is shifting the burden of proof again! It's a logical fallacy that hasn't worked once for him, otherwise he'd have legitimate followers or at least SOMEONE here to agree with any of the stupid, baseless ramblings he constantly types in fits of anger.
Look at all the graphic attention he goes into when describing "maiming", "chopping in half", "gouging eyes", "smashing teeth". I bet his micro-dick is nice and stiff just thinking about hurting women, who he clearly views as property and not autonomous beings that can (hilariously and justly) reject his lazy, sissy, abusive, hihihihihi ass.
 
In the context she's asking for - prove something you can't even scientifically describe while talking about it is also abhorrent to the mainstream

In the context of this conversation, yes, I want some damn definitive evidence. There has to be conclusive evidence to prove why women love rapists and worship abuse. It's one of the things you always say what women want, and it's one of the reasons why you come here to argue your stupid, insane point across despite being proven wrong time and time again.

If your claims that women love rape are proven correct, then it would only help your cause wouldn't it? When I ask for evidence, all you did was pull a straw man and claim it was "abhorrent to the mainstream." Consensual loving relationships are mainstream, raping isn't.

I was asking how women worship abuse with facts, and you immediately dismiss it like the cowardly Fuckbot that you are. Burden of proof, bitch. Prove it.
 
And point 1 was "Cite your sources."

This just in: Only Americans demand that people cite their sources.
Excuse me! I'm British and I've been fucking demanding he cite some sources* for months now...

*and I really want** sources that don't go proving him wrong... surely if he was right he'd not be able to find sources that just keep on showing him to be making shit up all the time...

**On the other hand, I'm very welcoming of the sources he currently provides... there is nothing more hilarious than when he proves himself wrong... again...
 
So @Holden, any thoughts on my story? If people who beat women are so beloved, why did his girlfriend try to leave him? And why did the village where he lived come to rescue her from him, at gunpoint?
 
What I also love about this citations nonsense is that you also have no citations for your own worldview.
Remember that 25% of women NEVER got married stuff? Yeah, you got Citations out the fucking arse for that one.

Remember that "needs evidence to convict, not just a claim?" shit? YOU provided a fucking citation and a half that proved that one...

Remember when you claimed you never had any violent fantasies about women? Yeah, so do we and we provided yet another citation showing you to be lying out of your fucking arse AND not understanding English that well. Remember, I have a quote bag with your name on it... so we have more than enough proof of what you've claimed...

He claims I have violent fantasies towards western sluts. This is a lie. If I could I'd just use their vaginas violent way or dispose of them.
and...
*regarding hypothetical situations* It's frightening you still can't distinguish between what one would do in a certain situation and fantasies.

...

Of course, the best thing about you and citations is it's not that we're making counter claims... we're asking you to provide some fucking evidence for your claims! Until you do, we're rejecting them... the burden of proof is not on us to show you're wrong, it's on you to prove that you are right!

I at least try to back up my views with other methods
Yes, you use assertions based on the conclusions you believe your claims lead to... as evidence that your claims are correct. I don't know if you've ever heard of this little thing called Circular Reasoning? It's all the rage in groups where they can't provide any evidence for their claims...

So, what is left? You claim that working can help get somebody a partner. Why would it, if seduction is what you stand for? Because if you don't stand for seduction you stand for arranged marriages or, even more extremely, men automatically getting a wife after earning enough. Which you don't stand for, right? So what do you stand for? Seduction. Which was never ever related to providing anything but stupidity.

And now you need to provide evidence for all those claims... or, in short, fucking well prove it!

And this paradox is what proves you are almost certainly wrong about opposing my views

Actually, no... you've just committed another fallacy...
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white

I'm really starting to wonder if you even know what Logic and Reasoning are... because you sure seem very oblivious regarding the concept...
 
All these addresses from Holden to other users, and not one for me. I'm starting to think I hurt his feelings with my previous post. Yet I feel no repercussive emotions. Don't take that personally, Holden. I happen to be a sociopath. It's not you, it's me.

...Have you ever heard that prior sentence from a female before, or do they have no qualms about telling you the truth to your face orally?
 
Holdy admitting he has no proof (from the thread about his wiki article, emphasis added):
Can I prove that I don't have violent fantasies? No, since there's no way for you or anybody else to get in my head. I can only provide my argumentation for my I don't have them. Besides, I am somebody who says 12 yo prostitutes should be legal, that non-married non-virgins should be raped and daughters of feminist sex slaves. I don't tend to lie about things that would make me bad.

My post was just about fantasies. As for whether I can prove that beatings would all men attractive, that's not what I even said. I said they could make men like me, who aren't evil and rotten enough to seduce, attractive. But that I can't yet even empirically prove. I just know how much more women treated me with respect when I coerced them into sex or, lately, just took one without even bothering with any of her imbecilic whims.

My "insane" response, which earned me getting blocked by him:
Yeah, I was talking about the latter. I know I can't prove what you fantasize about (kinda like how you can't prove anyone's wife cheats on them), but the graphic detail in which you describe knocking women's teeth out and cutting them in half and all that stuff definitely leads many to believe that those acts are part of your fantasies. I'm not saying they ARE, as I agree with you that I cannot know for sure what's in your mind. But constantly bringing it up in gratuitous detail severely undermines your claim that you don't have violent thoughts about women.

So regarding the latter, do you mean to tell me that you have hung your hat (and an entire worldview) on a really shaky conclusion you drew from getting what you wanted once by coercing someone into having sex with you? Coercion through blackmail (as you've described and since bragged about) kinda objectively makes you a rotten and evil person. Just saying. Or at best, you did a rotten and evil thing. Yes, "rotten" and "evil" can be somewhat elastic in definition, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would seriously call those actions decent.

PS - let's stay civil like this. It's more pleasant.
 
What I also love about this citations nonsense is that you also have no citations for your own worldview. There is no research that proves your points either. You're just weasels who say "this is what everybody knows", as if that's some kind of argument. I at least try to back up my views with other methods, you don't even have that.

Man Jam, if you really knew anything about citations you'd know that you don't have to cite common knowledge. For example, I can say "water is wet" without being expected to cite a peer-reviewed journal entry about why it is wet. We also can say "beating and raping women is bad" without having to cite anything because the academic community universally recognizes beating and raping as bad things.

The burden of providing proof is on you, not us, because you're the one trying to go against the academic norm.
 
It's funny how little he knows about rationality and reason. That, or he's just clinging so desperately to his little conspiracy that he posits all these flimsy and incompetent logical fallacies to avoid confronting just how terribly stupid everything he believes actually is.

Now that I think about it, both of the above are probably true. Ha. So much fail.
 
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