💰 Grifter Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Haven't watched the full stream yet, but found these clips on twitter. Honestly, to me Nick just sounds assmad here, not gonna lie. Reading the transcript alone was cringy enough, but watching the clips makes it worse. He doesn't sound like a mastermind sticking to a plan to get attention away from Vic or something (like some people here have suggested), he just sounds like a drunk sped. I like Nick and stuff, but I'm not going to pretend this isn't quite exceptional. If this was anyone other than Nick, I know we'd be quick to call the person out for their stupid behavior. Nick needs to stay away from whatever he drank that night.

Not denying that some of you have already called him out.

Seriously, how is calling Vic "a fucking pussy" helping? Can't imagine Vic'd be glad to hear that. Isn't this actually kind of like talking shit behind ic's back?

@KathrynTewson How about some more lowlights from this stream How does Nick realy feel about Vic.mp4

















@KathrynTewson Waitno. Seems like he just has an unrequited crush on Vic bit of a supercut her...mp4
More so kids, keep Dark Souls and Alcohol away from each other. Dark Souls and Drunk do not mix well, at all. But at the same time, so what that he vented frustration he had been probably carrying for months as baggage. It's part of the reflecting and remembrance process, to basically flush the filter out to basically start the next year of this bullshit fresh.
 
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Are we still doing the "Nick and Ty are the real reason Vic's career is over"?
Expectation:

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Because clearly the guy that gets naked to review kids cartoons for his more than likely young audience has the right to be calling someone a psycho.

Let's be real here. Animat would never have debated against Nick regardless of him saying what he did. Nick has tweeted back at him here and there for a while to talk about the situation involving Vic and the GFM with 0 response. All the while Animat blocked anyone that asked.

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The only thing this latest stream from Nick did was just give Animat an excuse that he can use as a gotcha to pussy out if asked to debate again in the future.

All these weirdos do the exact same thing. They talk big like they ever had the intention to talk to Nick in the first place.. then as soon as something comes up, they use it as an excuse not to talk. That doesn't make you the bigger person. It just makes you more exceptional. I don't think this weirdo had a sense of an argument to begin with. He knew he was going to get creamed on camera and wanted to avoid it at all costs.

Now with this Nick shit going on... for fucks sake. Just seeing how speds been reacting to it just makes me wonder how Nick didn't have a little meltdown sooner. I feel bad for Nick and Vic. People have been relentlessly, viciously, and constantly attacking them for a whole fucking year now. Every word, every action... being used to paint you in the worst possible way. It would make anyone snap... It's not just about them either. These people attack family and loved ones as well. It must be hell. All the complaints that are being made about you at your job must be fucking annoying. Every day... there's angry emails waiting for you. It does knock people down. I can't imagine going through that for even a month let alone a whole fucking year. It's just emotions boiling over at this point... The booze just unleashed that. Vic has been getting frustrated too... understandably so. I can't feel anything but bad for these guys right now. It is sickening that people put them through so much shit day after day.
 
Hey buddy, don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk.


Right on cue. God, they're so predictable it's like playing a game of fetch with a dog.


I respect the hell out of Nick and many of us are appreciative for what he's done for Vic, but he should know better than anyone else what this approach could do to Vic. I get what he's saying, he wants Vic to be more assertive and publicly call the defendants "liars", but at the same time, look at hundreds of times that KV has twisted every word Nick and even Vic have said to fit their context, even if that context wasn't the point. Vic saying that he hopes the guys who harassed that shop owner get "a taste of their own medicine" was misinterpreted as harassment. And now, they're trying to paint Nick as a drunken psycho because the comments he made on twitch.

Having Vic on Nick's show would be the biggest mistake to make right now. It would not only cause an even bigger uproar from the opposition, but it could give superficial impressions that Vic and Nick are in cahoots when it's been proven time and time again that Nick doesn't work for Vic. As a result, it could negatively impact the case.

Nick seems annoyed by that, but look at the bright side: in helping save a man's life, it has given Nick the recognition and revenue he's never had before. Also, it caused a lot of fans to look at this situation with a different perspective. Vic is clearly appreciative for what Nick has done and I hope Nick realizes that. I'm sure he does and this was just a case of him drinking too much in one night.

Nick is intentionally baiting them into turning more evidence. And they have.
 
All these weirdos do the exact same thing. They talk big like they ever had the intention to talk to Nick in the first place.. then as soon as something comes up, they use it as an excuse not to talk. That doesn't make you the bigger person. It just makes you more exceptional. I don't think this weirdo had a sense of an argument to begin with. He knew he was going to get creamed on camera and wanted to avoid it at all costs.

Now with this Nick shit going on... for fucks sake. Just seeing how speds been reacting to it just makes me wonder how Nick didn't have a little meltdown sooner. I feel bad for Nick and Vic. People have been relentlessly, viciously, and constantly attacking them for a whole fucking year now. Every word, every action... being used to paint you in the worst possible way. It would make anyone snap... It's not just about them either. These people attack family and loved ones as well. It must be hell. All the complaints that are being made about you at your job must be fucking annoying. Every day... there's angry emails waiting for you. It does knock people down. I can't imagine going through that for even a month let alone a whole fucking year. It's just emotions boiling over at this point... The booze just unleashed that. Vic has been getting frustrated too... understandably so. I can't feel anything but bad for these guys right now. It is sickening that people put them through so much shit day after day.
The fact that we're in another lull of activity doesn't help matters either. People are desperately wanting something to happen in a fashion that isn't organic.
 
Haven't watched the full stream yet, but found these clips on twitter. Honestly, to me Nick just sounds assmad here, not gonna lie. Reading the transcript alone was cringy enough, but watching the clips makes it worse. He doesn't sound like a mastermind sticking to a plan to get attention away from Vic or something (like some people here have suggested), he just sounds like a drunk sped. I like Nick and stuff, but I'm not going to pretend this isn't quite exceptional. If this was anyone other than Nick, I know we'd be quick to call the person out for their stupid behavior. Nick needs to stay away from whatever he drank that night.

Not denying that some of you have already called him out.

Seriously, how is calling Vic "a fucking pussy" helping? Can't imagine Vic'd be glad to hear that. Isn't this actually kind of like talking shit behind ic's back?

@KathrynTewson How about some more lowlights from this stream How does Nick realy feel about Vic.mp4

















@KathrynTewson Waitno. Seems like he just has an unrequited crush on Vic bit of a supercut her...mp4

Vic has been called worse 24/7 for the past 365 days.

Nick is just saying what a lot of people are thinking. Hell, EriMin even agreed. People in the industry probably agree. I could see JYB agreeing with Nick.

Whether this results in anything remains to be seen.
 
Me personally, I think it's less about Vic being nice and all that, more "This is going to backfire horribly and I really don't need this crap right now. I'll make it up to Nick when the dust settles. " sort of deal. This been going on for a year now. I think Vic doesn't want to do anything that stretch this shit show further than has to be. I do feel bad for Vic and Nick though.
 
Seriously, how is calling Vic "a fucking pussy" helping? Can't imagine Vic'd be glad to hear that. Isn't this actually kind of like talking shit behind ic's back?

@KathrynTewson How about some more lowlights from this stream How does Nick realy feel about Vic.mp4

@KathrynTewson Waitno. Seems like he just has an unrequited crush on Vic bit of a supercut her...mp4
If Vic stops talking to Nick cause he called him a "fucking pussy" then he would just be proving Nick right. Vic has been called far worse and has had worse done to him.

And no, calling him names in a publicly available stream is not "talking shit behind his back." The supposed friends he had at Funimation calling him a predator and every other criminal offense under the sun behind closed doors would be an actual example of that.
 
Don't think that this will cause bad blood,
well the way he did it wasn't smart (drunk on an after shows stream).
i'm pretty sure that Nick will apologize about the way he did it,
than he will phrase and explain it better.
Edit: (on a live stream or Video)

I assume that they will talk in private,
where Nick will apologize personally, but also tell Vic that he has to be more supportive in public,
which will hopefully end in a couple of strong massage of Vic calling out those people who go after bystanders,
like this Hawaii podcast guy, the store owner, the cosplay girl and cop dad.

Looks like Nick was annoyed by Vics sort of apathy,
a couple of pages ago we applauded Vic for just living his life doing his stuff and not caring about "them",
but the last pages this thing somehow shifted to "he doesn't care (enough) about us either".
Which is a pretty interesting shift.

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Clarification: I belive that Vic cares the "he doesn't care (enough) about us either" should be read as "he doesn't shows enough that he cares about us"
 
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I'm sure vic cares about the iswv tubers (although most of them are lol cows and drama whores.) It's just a tough spot in the lawsuit, he's not a vindictive person, he just wants his career back without "grinding them into the dirt" People kinda over estimated how the lawsuit would go and the morale is whining down, but all once internet gates hit a stagnated point.
 
I'm sure vic cares about the iswv tubers (although most of them are lol cows and drama whores.) It's just a tough spot in the lawsuit, he's not a vindictive person, he just wants his career back without "grinding them into the dirt" People kinda over estimated how the lawsuit would go and the morale is whining down, but all once internet gates hit a stagnated point.

If Vic wants his career back he needs be ready to break these fuckers legally and have his hand on the hammer. But one thing I don't understand is that they've gone after his mother and his not enraged over it? Any man that loves his parrent would butcher those fuckers in court, drag out everyone of those broke bastards from their basements and make them his bitch. In some ways I can understand why Nick is frustrated with Vic's inaction but at the same time he's still going strong although he still needs get rid of this dark over his head.
 
Nick has been increasingly impatient. He knows legal action is protracted. It may be that Vic/Ty have been sitting on nukes and Nick knows this. Vic's last stream is the closest Vic has come to publicly showing anger. Maybe Nick was just trying to push him hard enough to get him to use those nukes. It's going to take a few more Nick Streams on Vic to get a read I think.
 
If Vic wants his career back he needs be ready to break these fuckers legally and have his hand on the hammer. But one thing I don't understand is that they've gone after his mother and his not enraged over it? Any man that loves his parrent would butcher those fuckers in court, drag out everyone of those broke bastards from their basements and make them his bitch. In some ways I can understand why Nick is frustrated with Vic's inaction but at the same time he's still going strong although he still needs get rid of this dark over his head.
The defense has been constantly trying to twist Vic’s words against him. I completely agree he should go Old Testament on their asses, but any good lawyer will tell you the less you say the better. Why do you think you hear all the time “Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law.”?

Yeah that’s said before an arrest but that applies to all court cases tbh. Never give your enemies the ammo they need. Vic has looked better for businesses BECAUSE he’s been mostly quiet.

Even Jinnie who is KV said privately that Monica and Jamie need to shut up. Had they been quiet they’d still be getting more successful lines. They’re a PR nightmare, Vic however hasn’t been.

I like Nick, and I understand his frustrations. I like Vic, and I empathize with his frustrations and burdens. However as much as I want Vic to give these cunts and faggots a verbal lashing, it is not the time or place. Maybe after the suit is finally done he can be more honest and even come on Nick’s show. But now is not the time or place, especially with appeals coming up.
 
I wish he went scorched earth before lemonie filed the anti-slap. Vic unlock stream is showing that he's getting pissed off.

At the start I would have wished for it, but in hindsight it would have been a bad mistake.

The defense has been constantly trying to twist Vic’s words against him. I completely agree he should go Old Testament on their asses, but any good lawyer will tell you the less you say the better. Why do you think you hear all the time “Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law.”?

Yeah that’s said before an arrest but that applies to all court cases tbh. Never give your enemies the ammo they need. Vic has looked better for businesses BECAUSE he’s been mostly quiet.

Even Jinnie who is KV said privately that Monica and Jamie need to shut up. Had they been quiet they’d still be getting more successful lines. They’re a PR nightmare, Vic however hasn’t been.

I like Nick, and I understand his frustrations. I like Vic, and I empathize with his frustrations and burdens. However as much as I want Vic to give these cunts and faggots a verbal lashing, it is not the time or place. Maybe after the suit is finally done he can be more honest and even come on Nick’s show. But now is not the time or place, especially with appeals coming up.

True, true, I am still a bit skeptical that Vic will bring out the hammer when the time is right, of fucking course this isn't the time to start shit like some ISWV stavered sperg looking for attention. I am questioning the fact that Vic will be ruthless enough to savage KV when it's necessary to go on the offense. I know he's getting angry but will he be pissed enough to bring the big gun to snipe them? Who knows we just gotta wait and see.
 
if Vic wants to get his career back together he needs to dump Nick since it's clear he's completely batshit insane. if the skeptics had a competent lawyer, then Tonkasaw would be the one paying for the refunded tickets. if Vic had a competent lawyer, he'd have a better trial. Continuing to give this a-logger money is not going to help his case.
 
I'm surprised they haven't managed to get Nick kicked off twitch yet, they are well known for kicking people off for whatever reason, and Nick is 100% guilty of things that are actually against the code of conduct.

For example, in there, "dangerous consumption of alcohol" was expanded outside of the code of conduct to include any "drink everytime x happens" and people have been banned for that. Another fully in the coc, calling people fat is a bannable offense.
 
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