Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Creep3r]

Yeah, it is very obvious the old guard editors don't find the new canon fun to write about. You have years old canon articles who have tons of "we need to fix this" stickers at the top. Compare those articles to say, legends Luke Skywalker's, Revan's or Jacen Solo's articles. Or hell, to be fair, Zayne Carrick's page.

Even their new canon articles are in a dilapidated state. Usually being poorly spelled, filled with questionable references that are on par with Wikipedia's or are just flat out empty.

Muun

Muuns were a thin, tall humanoid species who ran the InterGalactic Banking Clan. Senator Rush Clovis was raised by a family of Muuns. The Muuns were a tall, pale humanoid species, known commonly across the galaxy as greed-driven bankers. The species' elongated skulls added to their height. Muuns...

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Activity is at an all time low except whenever a new movie or show trailer comes out. Hell their new Gas article was just written as a joke by some trolls on /tv/.

Then there's the whole boob article controversy that alienated almost half of their new woke editors. Also the whole misgendering rule. Can't call a character he or she or they until their pronouns are given.

To think this was once considered the most comprehensive (and aspie-tier) wiki alongside the Runescape one for years. Now its just a dying shill site whose only purpose now is to remind you to buy a fresh bottle Coca Cola or Sprite because it actually comes from the Star Wars galaxy.

Sprite (beverage)

Sprite was a carbonated soda available in plastic orb bottles and paper cups at various eateries throughout Black Spire Outpost on the planet Batuu. Imported by Jat Kaa, a Lurmen male from the planet Mygeeto, the drink was also sold to travelers and locals via his company Jat Kaa's Coolers at...

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Coca-Cola

Coca-Cola was a carbonated, caffeinated soda served in plastic orb bottles and paper cups at various locations throughout Black Spire Outpost on the planet Batuu. The beverage was imported by Jat Kaa, a Lurmen male from the planet Mygeeto, who sold it to travelers and locals via his company Jat...

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Are they still there? I thought they got replaced with Disney employees.

There are Disney employees working there now. Only old users left barely edit, or are simply around to make sure no one fucks with the stuff they made. The few oldfags that are still very active are just brand worshipers.

 

[HeyYou]

Then there's the whole boob article controversy that alienated almost half of their new woke editors. Also the whole misgendering rule. Can't call a character he or she or they until their pronouns are given.

I didn't know about these two things. Any details/example of an article with non-he/she pronouns?

 

[Azovka]

They eat a meat substitute called Soypro. Could they be any more on the nose with their ideas?

Clearly they didn't blow up enough planets. Nuke the whole galaxy, this degeneracy must be purged!

Selected quotes:

“Love and compassion were taught and practiced fondly by the people of Gatalenta, and crying openly was considered a virtue and proof of a caring heart.”

“Ruled by a Council of Mothers”

“healthy meat-substitute known as soypro”


So space soyboys crying in public and being subservient to a government made up of feminists are a thing I gues.

 

[Antipathy]

Selected quotes:

“Love and compassion were taught and practiced fondly by the people of Gatalenta, and crying openly was considered a virtue and proof of a caring heart."

“Ruled by a Council of Mothers”

“healthy meat-substitute known as soypro”


So space soyboys crying in public and being subservient to a government made up of feminists are a thing I gues.

If any one planet deserves a Virus bombing, Death Star cracking, or simply the treatment of getting hurled into the sun while ships shoot down any and all who try to flee, Mary Suetopia here is high up there.

Speaking of 40k, remember that awful 40kids thing we mocked a long time ago? I found a joke about it.

 

[Creep3r]

I didn't know about these two things. Any details/example of an article with non-he/she pronouns?

I think I talked about the boob controversy here like half a year ago or so. In short, tumblr and twitter became aware of the Breast article on Wookieepedia (although this was the second time tumblr went after it as far as I know), one of the oldest pages on the site, immediately labeling it "sexist" and "sexualized", but what rustled most jimmies was this picture of Ayla Secura (the blue twilek jedi master) that was in the article.

Spoiler: nsfw

Idiots started flocking to the page in droves trying to vandalize it, censor it or replace the picture with one of Anakin's shirtless shots from AotC (much like in the attack of 2011) or just making articles and posts about how bad it was off-site. Things only got worse when youtuber EckhartzLadder made a video about it bashing the article which caused even more woketards and normalfags to flood the page. It got so bad that the original creator of the article, Darth Culator, the Grand Elder-macdaddy of Wookieepedia and oldest oldfag of all, came back from the grave semi-retirement to put a stop to the nonsense and locked the page down. This didn't stop the masses as they then planned to flood the talk page with countless arguments, whining and debates explaining how demeaning and immoral the page was to women (despite that an article on testes exists too, but lets focus on the wahmen only) much like in the attack on 2011. Even some new Disney admins/users were critical, but Culator and some oldfags didn't let that stop them. They locked the talk page down before the tards could try anything and kept it that way until the drama blew over, and a few months later it finally did, but at the cost of some new users who were ashamed to be part of such a sexist site. This wasn't the first time the Breast article came under attack, but it was certainly the biggest attack the article faced since the Great Bitching of 2011 when the growth of wokeness was exploding into relevancy.

I'll get to the gender shit later as I'm tired after writing that.

 

[Vault Boy]

Selected quotes:

“Love and compassion were taught and practiced fondly by the people of Gatalenta, and crying openly was considered a virtue and proof of a caring heart.”

“Ruled by a Council of Mothers”

“healthy meat-substitute known as soypro”


So space soyboys crying in public and being subservient to a government made up of feminists are a thing I gues.

The Death Star would be too merciful, either lock the planet down with Rakghouls or Base Delta Zero that shit to make a point.

 

[Antipathy]

The Death Star would be too merciful, either lock the planet down with Rakghouls or Base Delta Zero that shit to make a point.

Biological warfare is the best and only way to wipe that.
Then glass the surface before shattering the husk.

 

[Flexo]

Maybe Han is just the SW version of a flat earther, denying facts that are accpeted and embraced by literally anyone else.
Hey, that's an angle Disney could use to further shit on Han. Have some female muslim lesbian Han-knockoff fly around her smuggle-spaceship, the "Queer Pigeon" or whatever, and have her point out what a dunce Han was, surely that will make her awesome and well-loved!

With the Jedi numbering less than 10,000 and then reduced to a handful not counting thumbs before his balls dropped, it is understandable to be skeptical. If the Jedi had number from a few hundred thousand to a few trillion and clone wars had battles raging in nearly every system and lasting at least a decade. Then Han can be compared to someone who doesn't believe in nukes.

Filoni's Clone Wars was simply way too small scale to the point large chunks of the galaxy if they weren't connected to the Holonet and other lines of communication, probably wouldn't have known there was a galactic war happening at all.

The Jedi really needed to be falling into decline by the point of the prequels. There is an argument that with a clone army, most of the actual war part of that war was far away from the concerns of the average citizens and then maybe they would just dismiss tales of the Jedi as war exaggerations or propaganda. Shame nobody bothered to examine that more.

Is this actually stated in some source material? That seems a bit over the top when something as small as an X-Wing can go to hyperspace. Although Wookiepedia cites a source saying it can put out 7.74x10^24 W of power (slightly below a Kardashev II civilization, which is utterly insane) so maybe it does make some sense.

To be fair, the larger the mass of the ship, the more power needed to move it (because inertia) so the engine differential there actually makes sense.

other hard SF logic like building megastructures instead of settling shitholes like Tatooine

To be fair again, I could see that in a large enough population, there would be folks who would prefer even a shithole like Tatooine over living in a mega-structure. See: firefly.

Wtf? I love the Empire now??

The sequels should have made me the arc-villain. I would show those droids how to kill all humans (and twiliek and hutt and wookie and...)

I think I talked about the boob controversy here like half a year ago or so. In short, tumblr and twitter became aware of the Breast article on Wookieepedia (although this was the second time tumblr went after it as far as I know), one of the oldest pages on the site, immediately labeling it "sexist" and "sexualized", but what rustled most jimmies was this picture of Ayla Secura (the blue twilek jedi master) that was in the article.

Spoiler: nsfw

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Idiots started flocking to the page in droves trying to vandalize it, censor it or replace the picture with one of Anakin's shirtless shots from AotC (much like in the attack of 2011) or just making articles and posts about how bad it was off-site. Things only got worse when youtuber EckhartzLadder made a video about it bashing the article which caused even more woketards and normalfags to flood the page. It got so bad that the original creator of the article, Darth Culator, the Grand Elder-macdaddy of Wookieepedia and oldest oldfag of all, came back from the grave semi-retirement to put a stop to the nonsense and locked the page down. This didn't stop the masses as they then planned to flood the talk page with countless arguments, whining and debates explaining how demeaning and immoral the page was to women (despite that an article on testes exists too, but lets focus on the wahmen only) much like in the attack on 2011. Even some new Disney admins/users were critical, but Culator and some oldfags didn't let that stop them. They locked the talk page down before the tards could try anything and kept it that way until the drama blew over, and a few months later it finally did, but at the cost of some new users who were ashamed to be part of such a sexist site. This wasn't the first time the Breast article came under attack, but it was certainly the biggest attack the article faced since the Great Bitching of 2011 when the growth of wokeness was exploding into relevancy.

I'll get to the gender shit later as I'm tired after writing that.

I don't recall the episode off hand but once Chuck of Sfdebris conducted a "battle of the wikis" between memory alpha and Wookieepedia. The competition? Their articles on breasts.

The picture on Wookiepedia was the deciding factor for victory.

So don't go thinking that these sperg battles don't have lasting consequences.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Man, I don't even follow Star Wars that much but this thread is so entertaining to follow. Wish I'd found it sooner.

Wtf? I love the Empire now??

Not gonna lie, the Empire is looking far more lenient given the two sides trying to control the galaxy now are either A) Literally Space Nazis who think they're better than the Empire ever was, or B) The Woke Resistance who can't think of a cool name (I mean come on, how do you honestly go from the badassery that is ROGUE SQUADRON to the most vague sounding thing possible?)

 

[Wyzzerd]

You can fix 90% of the jedi becoming a myth problem by moving the temple off coruscant. Place it on some far off backwater planet and have the jedi be wandering monks who follow the call of the force wherever the galaxy needs saving. They don't have a hand in politics, they don't hold power or become generals leading armies. They can easily become myths within their own time.

Have the location of the jedi homeworld be a big secret and releasing that secret to the emperor is the way Anakin betrays the jedi. Anakin no longer needs to personally kill younglings, the emperor just glasses the planet from orbit.

 

[Creep3r]

So apparently StarWars.com finally realized their blunder when they accidentally spoiled that Evil Rey was just a vision, so they changed the wording in their article. A bit too late for that I'm afraid.

Before:

After:

 

[HeyYou]

You can fix 90% of the jedi becoming a myth problem by moving the temple off coruscant. Place it on some far off backwater planet and have the jedi be wandering monks who follow the call of the force wherever the galaxy needs saving. They don't have a hand in politics, they don't hold power or become generals leading armies. They can easily become myths within their own time.

Have the location of the jedi homeworld be a big secret and releasing that secret to the emperor is the way Anakin betrays the jedi. Anakin no longer needs to personally kill younglings, the emperor just glasses the planet from orbit.

I'm not sure I agree with this idea, either. Anakin personally hunting down the Jedi was not only in the original trilogy but is a big part of the prequels saying "he actually did evil shit, we're not gonna dindu nuffin him". The Jedi increasingly getting involved as soldiers in the Republic and getting involved with politics was a good idea, the movies just didn't show it enough. Then EU material like KOTOR showed they were always involved in politics so it defeats the point.

Obi-Wan set up the Jedi as guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic, it's not like it came out of nowhere.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Also the whole misgendering rule. Can't call a character he or she or they until their pronouns are given.

They are f i c t i o n a l characters. Fuck this woke pronoun garbage & fuck everyone who made these idiotic "rules".

 

[Flexo]

You can fix 90% of the jedi becoming a myth problem by moving the temple off coruscant. Place it on some far off backwater planet and have the jedi be wandering monks who follow the call of the force wherever the galaxy needs saving. They don't have a hand in politics, they don't hold power or become generals leading armies. They can easily become myths within their own time.

Have the location of the jedi homeworld be a big secret and releasing that secret to the emperor is the way Anakin betrays the jedi. Anakin no longer needs to personally kill younglings, the emperor just glasses the planet from orbit.

What if that was the place Luke visited in the sequel trilogy? Wow, imagine the meaning and impact it would have.

Jedi could have been involved and had a kind of reclusive monk feel too. So many possible stories... just imagine if the last council used all of their power to cloak the world from hyperspace. Then the sequels can be the new characters hunting for the lost world.

Or if Anakin went there and killed them all, but didn't tell the empire the location of the world so it would not be blown up. What would that mean for his character? Or what if the emperor was the one to swear off destroying it? What were his reasons?

What if the world was going to be exploded after Yavin IV but Luke inadvertently saved them all. Then the empire was too focused on the rebels to ever get back to their original project?

The sequels may suck, but I will grant that Lucas kind of screwed them just a bit by denying any plot hooks. (I still wish the Leia reveal had never happened and Rey was the daughter of Luke's lost twin.)

 

[HeyYou]

What if that was the place Luke visited in the sequel trilogy? Wow, imagine the meaning and impact it would have.

Jedi could have been involved and had a kind of reclusive monk feel too. So many possible stories... just imagine if the last council used all of their power to cloak the world from hyperspace. Then the sequels can be the new characters hunting for the lost world.

Or if Anakin went there and killed them all, but didn't tell the empire the location of the world so it would not be blown up. What would that mean for his character? Or what if the emperor was the one to swear off destroying it? What were his reasons?

What if the world was going to be exploded after Yavin IV but Luke inadvertently saved them all. Then the empire was too focused on the rebels to ever get back to their original project?

The sequels may suck, but I will grant that Lucas kind of screwed them just a bit by denying any plot hooks. (I still wish the Leia reveal had never happened and Rey was the daughter of Luke's lost twin.)

The sequels didn't need any plot hooks from the prequels. George's intention with them was to bring the saga full circle and show Anakin's fall, it wasn't supposed to be an indication of where the galaxy would go after the OT. George had quite a few ideas for his sequel trilogy that didn't rely on plot hooks from the prequels at all. The main problem the sequels have is that they could have gone in tons of radical directions, but they didn't. They could have introduced tons of force cults that had nothing to do with the Jedi and Sith. They currently exist in canon, and the old EU dabbled in it before going back to Jedi/Sith nonsense. They could have had a plot where the Empire wasn't as evil as the New Republic thought, or emerged radically different. They could have had a plot where a third enemy that the Empire and New Republic have to face appears and the plot is about the old guard putting aside their hatred as they realize the new generations are fine with each other. They could have thrown the plot hundreds of years into the future and shown an alien, yet recognizably Star Wars galaxy.

Just with what he have, Rey could have voluntarily joined Kylo because she knows that at the point they were at reforming him and the First Order was the best chance the galaxy had. The idea that so much of the galaxy doesn't care about the current conflict could have been explored instead of being a preachy message that's ultimately tossed aside for IX. They could have revealed that the New Republic had several fleets full of cool ships hidden away to draw out the First Order with rumors of them demilitarizing, leading to an all out war we actually see on screen, and showing a darker side to the New Republic (should they have shown themselves earlier to save lives)?

These are all terrible ideas, but it shows that it's not like they had nowhere to go after the prequels introduced what they did. JJ/LucasFilm/Rian just have no creativity and so we ended up with a bad remake of the OT. Also, Leia being Luke's twin was already in ROTJ, it's not like the prequels fucked that up.

 

[Kyria the Great]

With including all the shit that comes from the books, my question is how is the First Order not the good guys in all of this? I mean with these books the level of decadence and degeneracy The New Republic is suffering under is on the levels that only a few more years of it would go to bring Slaneesh into existence and the Eye of Terror. I mean honestly, would one take the levels of degeneracy in the galaxy as I assume this is spread throughout it, or do you think it would lead to some hard-core motherfuckers trying to snap necks to bring decency into it?

 

[HeyYou]

With including all the shit that comes from the books, my question is how is the First Order not the good guys in all of this? I mean with these books the level of decadence and degeneracy The New Republic is suffering under is on the levels that only a few more years of it would go to bring Slaneesh into existence and the Eye of Terror. I mean honestly, would one take the levels of degeneracy in the galaxy as I assume this is spread throughout it, or do you think it would lead to some hard-core motherfuckers trying to snap necks to bring decency into it?

The First Order certainly aren't the good guys, but if Disney is trying to positively portray democracy they are doing a terrible job of it. The New Republic, just years after its founding, was so ridiculously corrupt, unable to get anything done, and full of stupid ideas (demilitarizing when a fair portion of your enemy hadn't even come to the peace tables yet) that it's incredibly hard to root for them. It's not that the First Order are good guys or good rulers (they aren't) it's that you spitefully root for them because the good guys we've been rooting for since the OT turned out to be terrible at recreating even the shitty. corrupt version of the Republic during the Clone Wars and at least the First Order winning would be interesting. That's not even talking about how hard it is to root for the entire galaxy after their refusal to send help to Leia.

 

[Kyria the Great]

The First Order certainly aren't the good guys, but if Disney is trying to positively portray democracy they are doing a terrible job of it. The New Republic, just years after its founding, was so ridiculously corrupt, unable to get anything done, and full of stupid ideas (demilitarizing when a fair portion of your enemy hadn't even come to the peace tables yet) that it's incredibly hard to root for them. It's not that the First Order are good guys or good rulers (they aren't) it's that you spitefully root for them because the good guys we've been rooting for since the OT turned out to be terrible at recreating even the shitty. corrupt version of the Republic during the Clone Wars and at least the First Order winning would be interesting. That's not even talking about how hard it is to root for the entire galaxy after their refusal to send help to Leia.

I know that, it is just hyperbole but god, some of the worst books of the original EU are seeming like masterpieces compared to the garbage we are currently getting. Though part of me wonders if these books aren't some elaborate shitposts where the sucker is Disney-LucasFilms and see what you can get away with in the quality control department and it seems you can get away with near murder.

 

[Creep3r]

I didn't know about these two things. Any details/example of an article with non-he/she pronouns?

As for the pronouns, that's kind of a thing that's spread to many wikis now. Originally on Wookieepedia, they never gave much thought to it. If a humanoid character had tits and eyelashes, that was enough to call it female, and if it was non-humanoid, sexless and/or ambiguous they would call it "it". Now however, a citation is required next to the pronoun/gender statement in the article indicating where the character is gendered, regardless if its incredibly obvious. If a gender isn't given, the character should be referred to by their name or "they" for identification. Every first instance of gender/pronoun in an article also has to link to the Canon Sexes article which is a mess of its own.

Sexes

Most beings in the galaxy belonged to one of two sexes, or genders—namely male or female—which determined sexual and physiological traits. However, at least five genders existed throughout the galaxy. Neutrois was a term used within the Galactic Empire to describe individuals of a gender other...

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Another example of this is a new humanoid alien pirate from the IDW comics, who is a purple alien with an octopus face but has eyelashes and tits in contrast to her partners of the same species who are muscular and lack eyelashes and are obviously male, however they cannot ever be gendered until an official statement is given. This whole mess started with Chuck Wendig's books if I remember correctly after he introduced many lgbtqiamnopbbq characters in his books and caused all sorts of controversy. Things further escalated in 2018 with the release of the Solo book "The Last Shot" which had the author throw a shit fit on Twitter after the french and spanish translations of her book didn't use the correct gender pronouns for his character (link below).

Taka Jamoreesa

Taka Jamoreesa was a human pilot and aspiring scoundrel who had a great taste in music. About two years after the Battle of Jakku, Jamoreesa was in a crew with Han Solo and Lando Calrissian trying to thwart Fyzen Gor's plot to take over the galaxy using the Phylanx Redux Transmitter. Jamoreesa...

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Man, I don't even follow Star Wars that much but this thread is so entertaining to follow. Wish I'd found it sooner.



Not gonna lie, the Empire is looking far more lenient given the two sides trying to control the galaxy now are either A) Literally Space Nazis who think they're better than the Empire ever was, or B) The Woke Resistance who can't think of a cool name (I mean come on, how do you honestly go from the badassery that is ROGUE SQUADRON to the most vague sounding thing possible?)

Since you like discussing park rides and in case you missed it, here's the low down on the upcoming Kylo Ren ride from June 1st:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-...y-about-last-jedi.32492/page-504#post-4788752
And the newly released video for reference:

https://kiwifarms.pl/threads/star-w...y-about-last-jedi.32492/page-638#post-5235200

Note that its been said the ride may suffer from infrequent downtimes due to supposed issues with the trackless trolley and the "laser" system.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

From what I can recall off the top of my head:

• A Holdo book goes into detail about how many things she's willing to fuck and tries to get Leia interested in some cross-species sodomy.

I found the Holdo cross-species thing, I think. It's not as detailed as I'd hoped but it's pretty damn cringey regardless.

Amilyn Holdo and Leia Organa Were Dating in “The Last Jedi” and You Can’t Convince Me Otherwise

I love my gay space moms!

www.autostraddle.com

New Leia Novel Suggests Holdo Is LGBT

The Last Jedi will be a groundbreaker.

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"A pair of pretty dark eyes." Then Amilyn thought about that for a moment. "Or more than a pair, if you're into Grans. Or Aqualish, or Talz. Or even - "

"That's all right! Leia said through laughter. "It's just humanoid males for me."

"Really? That feels so limiting."

"Thank goodness it's a big galaxy."