Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

In terms of immersion, yeah, it would be weird, but then again, that is a hotel for a theme park, not a location for a LARP.
It's not like people stay in the Las Vegas Luxor Hotel and going "Why, this is nothing like actual Egypt, they even serve Budweiser here. This hotel-stay is ruined!". I wholeheartedly agree that it would make no sense in the context of SW to have a hotel in a Battleship, but I also think that it doesn't matter. Also, @GeneralFriendliness made a good point: You can always explain it away by claiming the nice rooms etc. are part of the higher-ups quarters. SW is a franchise where Princes and Princesses travel around in Battleships, so there'd be a few nice places like that. You could also have bare-bones hotel rooms that look like regular soldier quarters or even just "coffin hotel" like berths for those that just want a cheap place to sleep.
If going by real life examples, warships during "peacetime" can be very suitable settings for a hotel. Museum/memorial ships been very popular with youth organizations. For more immersion but not quite into LARP territory, staying on ships doing "courtesy calls" to friendly or neutral ports to show the flag and remain peaceful relations.
Civilians on warships in an actual battle if going by WWII USN history were mostly contractors left abroad still building, refitting or repairing the ships.
 
I'm going to say that the Fall of Star Wars, err, Rise of Skywalker will probably still do like 800 million given it's the end of a trilogy and a mainline for the IP too. That will be considered atrocious by Disney since they were expecting 1.2 billion at least and then Jar Jar Abrams or Bob Iger resorts to the tactic of bribing the shill media with handbags to try and spin the bad movie as something good.
 
I'm going to say that the Fall of Star Wars, err, Rise of Skywalker will probably still do like 800 million given it's the end of a trilogy and a mainline for the IP too. That will be considered atrocious by Disney since they were expecting 1.2 billion at least and then Jar Jar Abrams or Bob Iger resorts to the tactic of bribing the shill media with handbags to try and spin the bad movie as something good.
And I can't wait for this to happen.
 
Hey she said right there where she got her lightsaber training buddy!
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99% certain this is incel fake news, but I laughed
 
I'm going to say that the Fall of Star Wars, err, Rise of Skywalker will probably still do like 800 million given it's the end of a trilogy and a mainline for the IP too. That will be considered atrocious by Disney since they were expecting 1.2 billion at least and then Jar Jar Abrams or Bob Iger resorts to the tactic of bribing the shill media with handbags to try and spin the bad movie as something good.
"Russian Bots and Alt Right manbabies continue to attack Rise of Skywalker! When will the hate end?"
 
I'm going to say that the Fall of Star Wars, err, Rise of Skywalker will probably still do like 800 million given it's the end of a trilogy and a mainline for the IP too. That will be considered atrocious by Disney since they were expecting 1.2 billion at least and then Jar Jar Abrams or Bob Iger resorts to the tactic of bribing the shill media with handbags to try and spin the bad movie as something good.
Yep. Many pages back I initially went with the film reaching 700mil or 800mil easily but there would be no way it would reach 2bil. But with the loss of the Chinese market and the surprising reception and fuck up that is Galaxy's Edge, I really don't know what to expect anymore with this film and I'm ready to be surprised.

Also more bad news relating to waiting periods at the Galaxy's Edge park:
The waiting time on the Falcon the other day was at 30 minutes but my associate said it only took about 20 or 15 minutes to get through the line (its now on par with the Monsters Inc ride). It may rarely rise to 60+ minutes depending on the time of day but that usually doesn't last as long as the sign says and its only really about a 40 minute wait or so when its like that. And 10 minutes of that wait is due to the length of the ride's game itself.

The Droid Depot which during the reservation period had a 2-3 hour waiting period, and then a 30-60 minute waiting period after the public opening is now down to a 0 minute waiting period with the store now deserted half the time.

The Docking Bay 7 restaurant went from about a 1-2 hour wait, to 30 minutes to just 10 minutes or so now with 15 at most.

Ronto Roasters went from 1 hour, to 30 minutes to 10 or 5 minutes.

Kat's Kettle went from 30 minutes, to 10 minutes to 0.

The soy m;lk stand went from 45 minutes, to 30 and then to 5-0. The m;lk's reception is no longer as well received as it was during the reservation period, likely due to that the reservation period visitors were mostly rich fucks who are used to the taste of soy milk and farts. Brilliant idea there to serve fake milk instead of frozen lactose-free milkshakes, Mr. Chapek. Seriously, an easier alternative would've been to just make the blue one real m;lk and make the green crap soy-based.

The Lightsaber shop/training went from 4 hours, to 1 hour and now just at 30 minutes, which is mostly because the "class" lasts half an hour.

The First Order, Resistance, Pet shops are pretty much the same. Just people showing up to look at the expensive merch but not buying anything or at least nothing too expensive.

Jewels of Bith is empty. People pass by and may look into it but that's about it.

Toydarian Toymaker is pretty much the same. People only go in to take pics of the cool shit you can't buy (podracers and a miniature of Jabba's sand barge which I can post pics of if you all want).

Blackspire Outfitters is the same.

Dok Ondar's store is empty too most of the time which is a shame since that's the one part of this park I've found to actually feel Star Wars-ish. Most of the crowds just seem to gather around the Falcon, the restaurants, in the streets or only go into shops to take videos and pictures most of the time.

The Rise of the Resistance ride (aka the Kylo Ren ride) which isn't even open yet was initially estimated to have waiting periods that would last 8 hours or more. Now the estimates have dropped to 4-5 hours.

To think Disney wanted to enforce a shitty 4 hour time limit on customers thinking they'd be overcrowded. My associate even spotted people in jedi robes the other day so I guess the clerks didn't even bother to stop them from putting it on when they bought it. Whether or not the troopers got to them later though is anyone's guess but this might be a sign of Disney getting desperate and being lax on the rules. My friend initially did buy a robe but he was only able to wear it on the first day he was there (I can try and ask him if he can push his luck and wear it again but I doubt he'll go for it). He also spotted a girl cosplaying as Padme in AOTC (minus the blaster and cloak thing) with no repercussions. There's also more videos popping up on youtube criticizing the park, and even diehard disney shills are having a hard time defending it (this one in particular is a good example, and on a side note he thinks TLJ introduced blue milk...).

Despite all this, I have some news that might be considered good everyone. I've rounded up and collected some HD pics from Dok's store that might be worth seeing since like I said that seems to be the only store with anything worth seeing.

"Russian Bots and Alt Right manbabies continue to attack Rise of Skywalker! When will the hate end?"
If the movie should underperform or receive poor reviews, I already know what to expect from nu-Lucasfilm.

"We at Lucasfilm are shocked but not surprised. The reasons for why IX turned out this way can clearly be blamed on..."
A: Star Wars Fatigue
B: Russian Bots and The Alt-Right boogeymen
C: Sexist bigoted fanboys
D: Our movie wasn't woke enough

I'm going with A since that's the most likely excuse they would use should the film underperform in order to save face with investors.
 
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I'm going with A since that's the most likely excuse they would use should the film underperform in order to save face with investors.
I’m going with A as well as well as a optimistic side of “we finally realized that this brand does not fit well within our portfolio.”
 
Even if they go with there’s too much fatigue, it’ll just be a pathetic excuse since they are eventually trying not to admit it’s not that there’s too much SW movies, the problem is that they are pumping out too many BAD ones.
 
Yep. Many pages back I initially went with the film reaching 700mil or 800mil easily but there would be no way it would reach 2bil or even 1.5bil. But with the loss of the Chinese market and the surprising reception and fuck up that is Galaxy's Edge, I really don't know what to expect anymore with this film and I'm ready to be surprised.

Also more bad news relating to waiting periods at the Galaxy's Edge park:
The waiting time on the Falcon the other day was at 30 minutes but my associate said it only took about 20 or 15 minutes to get through the line (its now on par with the Monsters Inc ride). It may rarely rise to 60+ minutes depending on the time of day but that usually doesn't last as long as the sign says and its only really about a 40 minute wait or so when its like that. And 10 minutes of that wait is due to the length of the ride's game itself.

The Droid Depot which during the reservation period had a 2-3 hour waiting period, and then a 30-60 minute waiting period after the public opening is now down to a 0 minute waiting period with the store now deserted half the time.

The Docking Bay 7 restaurant went from about a 1-2 hour wait, to 30 minutes to just 10 minutes or so now with 15 at most.

Ronto Roasters went from 1 hour, to 30 minutes to 10 or 5 minutes.

Kat's Kettle went from 30 minutes, to 10 minutes to 0.

The soy m;lk stand went from 45 minutes, to 30 and then to 5-0. The m;lk's reception is no longer as well received as it was during the reservation period, likely due to that the reservation period visitors were mostly rich fucks who are used to the taste of soy tard cum and farts. Brilliant idea there to serve fake tard cum instead of frozen lactose-free milkshakes, Mr. Chapek. Seriously, an easier alternative would've been to just make the blue one real m;lk and make the green crap soy-based.

The Lightsaber shop/training went from 4 hours, to 1 hour and now just at 30 minutes, which is mostly because the "class" lasts half an hour.

The First Order, Resistance, Pet shops are pretty much the same. Just people showing up to look at the expensive merch but not buying anything or at least nothing too expensive.

Jewels of Bith is empty. People pass by and may look into it but that's about it.

Toydarian Toymaker is pretty much the same. People only go in to take pics of the cool shit you can't buy (podracers and a miniature of Jabba's sand barge which I can post pics of if you all want).

Blackspire Outfitters is the same.

Dok Ondar's store is empty too most of the time which is a shame since that's the one part of this park I've found to actually feel Star Wars-ish. Most of the crowds just seem to gather around the Falcon, the restaurants, in the streets or only go into shops to take videos and pictures most of the time.

The Rise of the Resistance ride (aka the Kylo Ren ride) which isn't even open yet was initially estimated to have waiting periods that would last 8 hours or more. Now the estimates have dropped to 4-5 hours.

To think Disney wanted to enforce a shitty 4 hour time limit on customers thinking they'd be overcrowded. My associate even spotted people in jedi robes the other day so I guess the clerks didn't even bother to stop them from putting it on when they bought it. Whether or not the troopers got to them later though is anyone's guess but this might be a sign of Disney getting desperate and being lax on the rules. My friend initially did buy a robe but he was only able to wear it on the first day he was there (I can try and ask him if he can push his luck and wear it again but I doubt he'll go for it). He also spotted a girl cosplaying as Padme in AOTC (minus the blaster and cloak thing) with no repercussions. There's also more videos popping up on youtube criticizing the park, and even diehard disney shills are having a hard time defending it (this one in particular is a good example, and on a side note he thinks TLJ introduced blue tard cum...).

Despite all this, I have some news that might be considered good everyone. I've rounded up and collected some HD pics from Dok's store that might be worth seeing since like I said that seems to be the only store with anything worth seeing.


If the movie should underperform or receive poor reviews, I already know what to expect from nu-Lucasfilm.

"We at Lucasfilm are shocked but not surprised. The reasons for why IX turned out this way can clearly be blamed on..."
A: Star Wars Fatigue
B: Russian Bots and The Alt-Right boogeymen
C: Sexist bigoted fanboys
D: Our movie wasn't woke enough

I'm going with A since that's the most likely excuse they would use should the film underperform in order to save face with investors.
I'm going with E, all of the above. They're going to go all out for the ebin conclusion to the saga and JJ's going to throw in retarded 'fanservice' in place of Rian's pseudo-intellectualism which'll cause the TLJ shills high off their own farts to claim that manbabies ruined the woke, deep masterpiece that was TLJ.
 
Yeah it would have been somewhat clever of them to make the blue m;lk out of lactose-free m;lk, because most people who are accustomed to consuming dairy products are unfamiliar with the taste of lactose-free m;lk, and with a little bit of suspension of disbelief, might be able to imagine it is some alien m;lk.
 
Just compare the dull and lifeless SW park to the Radiator Spring park from back in 2012 which makes you feel like you traveled to the world of Cars. This one ride manages to do everything GE could not.
Its been years since this park opened up and wait times are still around 2 hours apparently. I don't even like Cars at all and think it was shit but even I would want to go see this shit more than GE. Hell, Disney could've just added a race track like this with landspeeders or podracers instead of cars and park-goers would at least have one reason to go to GE regardless of how boring and devoid of SW it was. And a speeder ride like that would guarantee more fun and thrills than the boring, wobbling and stationary Falcon ride. The Cars park even came with three different rides on opening day in contrast to GE's one ride (while its second ride is trapped in maintenance limbo). The people who designed the Cars park should've been the ones making the Star Wars park. It even has the film characters driving about the town and everything in it is from the films and even obscure Cars media with no original donut steals.
 
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Also more bad news relating to waiting periods at the Galaxy's Edge park:
Wow-wee. This is pretty bad.

I mean, when you really look at it, there is only one attraction that isn't tied in with buying crap for horrendeous sums of money and you can get similar merch elsewhere (for cheaper, oftentimes). And the one ride you do get is... pretty unremarkable.
There's hardly a reason to go to GE outside of a quick stroll.
In my city, you have to stand in line longer to get to certain ice-cream-parlors, this is simply amazing.
The return-on-investment must be terrible.

If you'd flip back a few pages and took a random idea for a ride from a random user and just built a cheap version and placed it somewhere in GE, no doubt the number of visitors would double.

If the movie should underperform or receive poor reviews, I already know what to expect from nu-Lucasfilm.

"We at Lucasfilm are shocked but not surprised. The reasons for why IX turned out this way can clearly be blamed on..."
A: Star Wars Fatigue
B: Russian Bots and The Alt-Right boogeymen
C: Sexist bigoted fanboys
D: Our movie wasn't woke enough

I'm going with A since that's the most likely excuse they would use should the film underperform in order to save face with investors.
I think there's also E: "This movie was too smart for the average movie goer", not verbatim, mind you, but they will insinuate that IX might have been too smart anyway. They tried the same nonsense with TLJ when they paid for reviewers and journos to jerk themselves raw over themes in TLJ.

Which brings me to my next point: We will not see any major news outlet or review site say a single negative word about IX (unless it's literally "It's over too quickly and the audience wants more after this spectacular new movie"). We will still see a review average of like 90-95% and audience score of like 50%.

Better get your popcorn ready, it'll be a wild ride.

Just compare the dull and lifeless SW park to the Radiator Spring park from back in 2012 which makes you feel like you traveled to the world of Cars. This one ride manages to do everything GE could not.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MY9qTicyVhcIts been years since this park opened up and wait times are still around 2 hours apparently. I don't even like Cars at all and think it was shit but even I would want to go see this shit more than GE. Hell, Disney could've just added a race track like this with landspeeders or podracers instead of cars and park-goers would at least have one reason to go to GE regardless of how boring and devoid of SW it was. And a speeder ride like that would guarantee more fun and thrills than the boring, wobbling and stationary Falcon ride. The Cars park even came with three different rides on opening day in contrast to GE's one ride (while its second ride is trapped in maintenance limbo). The people who designed the Cars park should've been the ones making the Star Wars park. It even has the film characters driving about the town and everything in it is from the films and even obscure Cars media with no original donut steals.

The animatronics on those cars are pretty damn amazing. Not a big fan of cars myself (it's just Doc Hollywood with cars), but it seems they made some great looking stuff for that park. And then compare it to GE.
The stuff there looks fine, but it's not on the level of the stupid talking cars park.
 
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I think there's also E: "This movie was too smart for the average movie goer", not verbatim, mind you, but they will insinuate that IX might have been too smart anyway. They tried the same nonsense with TLJ when they paid for reviewers and journos to jerk themselves raw over themes in TLJ.

Which brings me to my next point: We will not see any major news outlet or review site say a single negative word about IX (unless it's literally "It's over too quickly and the audience wants more after this spectacular new movie"). We will still see a review average of like 90-95% and audience score of like 50%.

Better get your popcorn ready, it'll be a wild ride.
The SCOUTS ruled that you don't need to control 100% of an industry to be a monopoly for a reason. The fact that you'll get shut out of 50% of the movie industry if you badmouth a Disney tentpole should itself trigger antitrust scrutiny.
 
Since we’re predicting RoS’s box office, is predicting that the films as a weekend opening of less than $100 million, around $72-84 million. After that, massive box office drop second weekend. The reason I predict this outcome is because Disney seems quiet on the film and aren’t doing anything special.
 
My associate even spotted people in jedi robes the other day so I guess the clerks didn't even bother to stop them from putting it on when they bought it. Whether or not the troopers got to them later though is anyone's guess but this might be a sign of Disney getting desperate and being lax on the rules. My friend initially did buy a robe but he was only able to wear it on the first day he was there (I can try and ask him if he can push his luck and wear it again but I doubt he'll go for it). He also spotted a girl cosplaying as Padme in AOTC (minus the blaster and cloak thing) with no repercussions.

Wait. Why would it be a problem to wear the jedi robes or cosplay a character? Is there a rule for that or something? I haven't been following this so I'm really confused.
 
Wait. Why would it be a problem to wear the jedi robes or cosplay a character? Is there a rule for that or something? I haven't been following this so I'm really confused.

I think the fear is (a) that guests will be mistaken for staff by other guests and (b) maybe how exactly you police some chick showing up in a Slave Leia bikini or Oola outfit. Pretty sure accurate in a RotJ sense won't fly in this weirdly and ofttimes capricious Puritanical age we live in. That's speculation, though, AFAIK Disney has not explained the policy.
 
Wait. Why would it be a problem to wear the jedi robes or cosplay a character? Is there a rule for that or something? I haven't been following this so I'm really confused.
I think the fear is (a) that guests will be mistaken for staff by other guests and (b) maybe how exactly you police some chick showing up in a Slave Leia bikini or Oola outfit. Pretty sure accurate in a RotJ sense won't fly in this weirdly and ofttimes capricious Puritanical age we live in. That's speculation, though, AFAIK Disney has not explained the policy.
Pretty much what Mr. Dowd said. Its about making sure you don't get confused with a park employee, but like someone else in the thread said a few pages back, there's an easy workaround this by giving cosplayers some kind of colorful armband or accessory to tell them apart from real employees. And while this rule might be understandable, the problem is that Disney advertised this park as a roleplaying experience and said that costumes and lightsaber fights would be a thing, along with "meaningful" ways to raise your reputation for more interactions, none of which turned out to be true as you couldn't even have fake fights in the park which were one of the promised elements during pre-release promos. Best you could do was hover your blades over each other and not move around (not sure if the park has gotten more lax with this rule too), but it would've been pretty easy to fix by simply setting up a "training" gimmick like at Star Tours. And then there's another fact that the only "costume" they did allow initially was some basic tunics loosely based on the shit Rey and Shmi Skywalker wore, but these tunics are the same ones worn by the majority of store clerks, so you could already be confused with a park employee from day 1 with the only thing telling them apart being the metal nametag employees get. Normally these rules would be somewhat understandable, but when you try to sell your park on these gimmicks only to reveal that you can't actually do what they say you could do, then that just comes off as false advertising.

And if you all just got here and want to know more about the park in more detail, my info dumps start on page 500.
 
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There isn't a "main" or "offshoot". Both the California and Florida parks are identical in every way according to reports and pics. The Florida one is set to open in August which according to news articles will have both the falcon and the kylo ren ride functioning (although articles made similar and even more exaggerated claims about the California one, like saying it had dozens of rides before it opened). There has been no word as to when the California one's Kylo Ren ride will be ready other than "later this year" last time I checked. And my associate is at the one that's actually open.
When you say the parks are identical, I assume you mean the Florida GE will be identical to the California one, rather than the overall Disney park. 'Cause I know Orlando incorporated some differences from Anaheim (particularly in terms of infrastructure; Orlando has that underground facility and tunnel system, and I don't know if Anaheim has that).

I was also under the impression Orlando had more room to work with than Anaheim did, and that they were using Anaheim as a stalking horse before moving ahead on Orlando construction.

This is dumbfounding, though. Amazingly bad. I'd almost think the strategy was a 'Springtime for Hitler'-esque deliberate attempt to fail.
 
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