🌟 Internet Famous Jared Knabenbauer / ProJared / SinJared, Heidi O'Ferrall / AtelierHeidi & Holly Conrad / CommanderHolly - Divorce Fiasco, trashfire extraordinaire

[Love Machine]

Its almost like open relationships and MARRIAGE ARE EXACT OPPOSITES. Does it make you think guys? it makes me thing. its like trying to have a vegan dog.

 

[PrincessHomura]

its like trying to have a vegan dog.

This might shock and horrify you, but the same retards who shill polyamory also, sometimes, do try to make their pets live on a vegan diet.

 

[Carnavoyeur]

Subscriber update. Proof that his Twitter statements are not helping him in the slightest.

 

[everythingisawkward999]

Subscriber update. Proof that his Twitter statements are not helping him in the slightest.

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If anything, they're hurting him even more.

The best thing to do in a situation like this is probably to just shut up and wait until everything blows over.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

Wait? What's happening? I got caught in some family drama bullshit and missed a lot of stuff.

 

[Medicated]

Maybe it's just me, but the "open relationship" thing had to be agreed upon by both people. If Heidi suggested it and Jared disagreed, it wouldn't have gone anywhere, and vice versa. But he did, and they were both in agreement about it. So it stands to be assumed that they probably agreed that if one of them didn't feel comfortable with it after giving it a try, it stops.

According to her statements she was fine sleeping with people and a "primarily platonic" relationship with one person. She said herself when Holly had feelings only for Jared it became a problem, because I suppose its what led to the breakup and then later the divorce.

I know people like to say there are ground rules in open relationships and crap, but to me it just sounds like a load of horseshit. It's basically "I want to be single, but keep the image and financial security of being a couple." to me you're basically saying you're breaking up.

 

[Just A Butt]

Wait? What's happening? I got caught in some family drama bullshit and missed a lot of stuff.

You haven’t missed as much as you think. Jared put out a lame apology and Heidi got super defensive when pressed for details about things.

The rest of the last 20 or so pages are pure speculation.

 

[Eugene Drizzledick]

If anything, they're hurting him even more.

The best thing to do in a situation like this is probably to just shut up and wait until everything blows over.

Is any bad attention really hurting Jared? From what I see, he was only doing let's plays and slowly dying off with them. Both his Youtube channels got around 1.5M views per month.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

You haven’t missed as much as you think. Jared put out a lame apology and Heidi got super defensive when pressed for details about things.

The rest of the last 20 or so pages are pure speculation.

Hmmm...
From what I can see, it look slike they agreed to an open relationship where they were both sleeping with other people. But it stopped being appropriate when Jared and Holly caught actual romantic feelings for each other?

 

[ComeoutandJULAY]

As strange as it sounds I feel like Holly, the side chick herself, has been the smartest one out of the main players involved. She did her bit of damage control during the initial blowout and then we haven't heard a thing from her since, not even after the resurrection of this whole dumpster fire.

...I'm going to jinx it, aren't I?

 

[Pony Horn]

Wait? What's happening? I got caught in some family drama bullshit and missed a lot of stuff.

You missed about 50 pages of faggots repeatedly telling each other that cheating on your wife and sending dick pics to fans is bad (yeah, guys, we get it).

On the war front, Jared finally posted a response. Heidi responded and finally gave a bit of info though nothing of real importance. The teen troon also posted. If you want further details you're better off going to their twitter accounts via the OP than reading thru all this shit.

 

[MahFibro!]

Hmmm...
From what I can see, it look slike they agreed to an open relationship where they were both sleeping with other people. But it stopped being appropriate when Jared and Holly caught actual romantic feelings for each other?

If I understood it right, Holly fell for Jared and Heidi put an end to the prospect of having an open relationship because of it (I guess, in this poly relationship, it's okay to have a side piece when no feelings are involved - but when said side piece wants something more serious with one of the original couple or vice versa, the arrangement needs to be stopped because rules are being broken/it becomes a competition between the main partner and the side piece? )

Jared disagreed with the cancellation of the open relationship and pursued Holly behind Heidi's back, anyway - making both he and Holly actively cheating on their respective spouses because they disregarded Heidi's wishes (again, assuming I understand things right).

 

[scathefire]

This whole thing is just so brutally exceptional. Jared is exceptional. Heidi is exceptional. Holly is exceptional. Divorcing your wife on Twitter is exceptional. Polyamory/open relationships are exceptional. Sending nudes to and possibly having sex with your fans is exceptional. In terms of being autistic, we are rapidly approaching a gravitational singularity of autism, so dark and dense that no light can ever escape it

 

[Preferred Penne]

 

[Cyber Bowling]

This whole thing is just so brutally exceptional. Jared is exceptional. Heidi is exceptional. Holly is exceptional. Divorcing your wife on Twitter is exceptional. Polyamory/open relationships are exceptional. Sending nudes to and possibly having sex with your fans is exceptional. In terms of being autistic, we are rapidly approaching a gravitational singularity of autism, so dark and dense that no light can ever escape it

This is a pretty accurate summary. I don't think it is worth trying to imply one party was more responsible than the other. It's pretty clear that Jared and Heidi didn't want to be together period but for whatever reason were unable to outright admit that to one another until it was too late. If it was just one party agreeing to the poly thing you could make an argument for there being some potential emotional abuse or gaslighting or something to basically trick the other person into it. But, it sounds like they were both pretty eager to jump into relationships with other people. And not even just a fuck buddy situation, Jared was obviously super into Holly and by Heidi's own admission she dived right into an emotional relationship with someone. We don't exactly have an accurate timeline, but we at least know Jared and Holly were together for a long time and I would not be surprised to find out Heidi had a similar length relationship. I also wouldn't be surprised if they both considered their marriage "saved" during this period where they were romantically involved with another person, and things spilled over when one of them, presumably Heidi unless there's a whole other drama bomb that hasn't dropped, lost said partner and then got upset because they got dumped by someone they were seriously invested in and now have to deal with being in twisted marriage where the other person still had that deep connection.

If I'm remembering right, Arrested Development did a joke about how both couples agreeing to an open relationship know deep down they are doomed to failure, but convince themselves they are somehow the exception to the rule and they'll be the ones to make it work and it will somehow bring them together. That's exactly what Jared and Heidi did. Their marriage was on the rocks, so their solution was to each go off and bond with someone else. It was just their own stubbornness/denial about how much they didn't want to be with each other that caused this mess in the first place. Though I do think Jared edges ahead just a little in the exceptional category for not only publicly announcing it on Twitter for seemingly no reason, but also thinking that blocking Heidi would actually keep her from seeing it.

TLDR: If the only way your marriage works is you both go off to be in serious relationships with other people, just pull the ripcord and get a divorce. And do it in person, not over twitter.

 

[MagneticTowels]

So in the end they are both pieces of shit? This situation reminds me of a documentary Metokur watched on his stream. Woman wants open relationship, man agrees and finds someone on the side while the woman becomes miserable.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vJdR83n2LIw

A consequence of biological roles

 

[Deadbeef Chief]

That seems to me somehow worse than a purely sexual relationship. So your partner on the side was PRIMARILY an emotional connection??

And you're SUPRISED the relationship failed??

Also, what the fuck??

Her excuse for her sleeping around was that it was mostly an emotional connection but at the SAME TIME she feels that Jared and Holly's relationship was fine when it was purely sexual, but crossed the line when they developed feelings for each other.

Jared sleeping around was bad because it became emotional.

Her sleeping around is okay BECAUSE it was primarily emotional.

And double standards like this is why Jared should have immediately divorced the second she proposed an open marriage, and why open marriages will never work. Only a cuck says yes to that shit (even if he did turn around and make his wife the cuck, he's still a cuck for agreeing in the first place).

I figured I was going crazy. People on Twitter seem to be giving her a pass because she took the romantic route instead of sexual route of polyamory. And it is romantic, just thinly veiled behind the word "emotional".

 

[CakeCutey]

Jared always seemed like an off guy, but I never thought he'd do something this fucking stupid.

 

[Medicated]

I figured I was going crazy. People on Twitter seem to be giving her a pass because she took the romantic route instead of sexual route of polyamory. And it is romantic, just thinly veiled behind the word "emotional".

Everyone comes out looking like a degenerate. Heidi didn't have the balls to just break up, Jared didn't have the balls to break up, Holly didn't have the balls to end her marriage before fucking other people. But Jared gets bonus r3tard points for trying to bang his own fans, who may or may not have been underage, it seems hazy atm, since we only have the word of Heidis friend who is obviously on her side, and was fine until the divorce happened.

Went to read up what lolcow was saying about the whole thing, they seem to be 100% behind Heidi all the way, anyone who says bad of poly or open relationships is banned lol

 

[Guts Gets Some]

Can we focus on the more important parts then muh gender? All I know is Jared allegedly wants to fuck somebody who looks like a guy, and I think thats pretty gay.
They have facial hair so they've clearly been on the drugs for awhile:
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The message stated they messaged Jared before they trooned out. They were 16 and female at the time, and Jared was A-OK with it.


In any case, it's come to light that both of them are shit. While I enjoyed seeing Jared lose subs, I was shaking my head that so many were also just going to Heidi at the same time (she did get a huge boost to Jared's decline). A "Jared=bad means Holly=good" mentality, which I never agreed with. More extremism, where there apparently always has be a villain.
I don't believe the world works like that at all.