💰 Grifter Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

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@Jub-Jub ok here's what your "friend" needs to do. Put all the incident reports in a box, mail them shits to the lawyers that are asking about it then shut up. Don't contact people, don't find people, mail the paper, shut up.

Now I'm not a lawyer or a Canadian paralegal but generally when something is requested of you by an attorney, you do exactly what they say. If they didn't explicitly tell you to do it, you don't fucking do it.

EDIT: I'm a tard and I tagged the wrong guy. I meant @Zeke Von Genbu
 
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Genkoda powiedział(a):
I mean then again there are people that bring in their computers to get fixed while having cp on it. I guess they think that no one will call the cops or that the whole client confidentiality thing covers CP too(hint it doesnt).
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They probably just forget it's on there. You've got to be pretty fucked in the head to possess it in the first place, forgetting it's even there while taking it for repair just seems par for the course.
 
quickthrowaway powiedział(a):
So one thing I continue to question is why now? Or rather why did this apparent conspiracy start during sometime mid to late 2018. And I think I might have got it.
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The catalyst for this shit storm is something else entirely. Anime News Network's writers created a list of "abusers in the anime industry" as a response to one of their own big names in the SJWeaboo sphere getting outed as a sex pest. This list allowed them to bury the Hazukari/Dylan Kielman story. Multiple ANN staff have said there are worse people than Mignogna that they won't go after, which says to me they weren't collecting names for altruistic reasons. Broly reminded SJWs that Vic was around and given the drama in his history, he was the perfect fall guy. This autism was all contained on Twitter until ANN's story.

ANN has unpersoned Hazukari, deleting every article he wrote for them. They haven't published anything about the accusations against him. If they've publicly unpersoned him, that means they believe he's guilty. Their decision to not cover that story isn't because he's a no one. They've reported on literally whos in the past. One of their contributors is outed as a hazard to teenagers at conventions yet all coverage is limited to their personal Twitter accounts. Is admitting that one of your own is a sex pest not good for advertisers? Did they think it wouldn't make a good story?
 
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@Jub-Jub ok here's what your "friend" needs to do. Put all the incident reports in a box, mail them shits to the lawyers that are asking about it then shut up. Don't contact people, don't find people, mail the paper, shut up.

Now I'm not a lawyer or a Canadian paralegal but generally when something is requested of you by an attorney, you do exactly what they say. If they didn't explicitly tell you to do it, you don't fucking do it.
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Not my friend, but yes this.

If BHBH are contacting conventions about this then I'd expect them to ask similarly to the interrogatories in the current papers i.e. give us the documents and information to i.d these people.
 
Renmei powiedział(a):
Help a newbie out. I'm assuming this is why companies have real HR departments.. to cover their asses from potential legal liabilities like this.. Same with Shane and the agent thing, a simple tweet that the guy doesn't represent Funi would have kept the company out of this lawsuit right?
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Now first of all welcome to the farms, second of all sure saying that a few people don't represent them would have helped, but you have to remember that they opened themselves up to a lawsuit from the very beginning by implying that Vic was a harasser in their own official statement.
 
Renmei powiedział(a):
Help a newbie out. I'm assuming this is why companies have real HR departments.. to cover their asses from potential legal liabilities like this.. Same with Shane and the agent thing, a simple tweet that the guy doesn't represent Funi would have kept the company out of this lawsuit right?
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you are correct about the agent thing, especially as it is concerned about soye. Hopwever this post by nick says that according to texas law the company is responsible if its employees and agents discuss or mention an iunternal investigation, especially if they do so in a way that could damage the reputation of the one being investigated. If this happens the company can be accused of defamation.
 
Munchingonfish powiedział(a):
The catalyst for this shit storm is something else entirely. Anime News Network's writers created a list of "abusers in the anime industry" as a response to one of their own big names in the SJWeaboo sphere getting outed as a sex pest. This list allowed them to bury the Hazukari/Dylan Kielman story. Multiple ANN staff have said there are worse people than Mignogna that they won't go after, which says to me they weren't collecting names for altruistic reasons. Broly reminded people Vic was around and given the drama in his history, he was the perfect fall guy. This autism was all contained on Twitter until ANN's article.

ANN has unpersoned Hazukari, deleting every article he wrote for them. They haven't published anything about the accusations against him. If they've publicly unpersoned him, that means they believe he's guilty. Their decision to not cover that story isn't because he's a no one. They've reported on literally whos in the past. One of their contributors is outed as a hazard to teenagers at conventions yet all coverage is limited to their personal Twitter accounts. Is admitting that one of your own is a sex pest not good for advertisers? Did they think it wouldn't make a good story?
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It's clear the reason why they kept a low coverage on this. They knew this would put a dent on their already questionable reputation. They knew their Ilk would turn on them at the very insight of backlash from the anime community. They KNEW this was going to be the beginning of the end for ANN. They had to divert attention away from them and fast. Little did timing was on their favor with MarzGurl plotting to throw Vic under the bus, and save their own asses in the process. The fuckers deserve to be Gawkered after this. And IF Ty finds a way to drag these sons of bitches to court, then we might finally see the backlash they feared.

I can't wait for this to keep developing since Beth, and Marzgurl might be that reason due to their connection with each other. Discovery might find something very juicy we can laugh at.
 
Munchingonfish powiedział(a):
ANN has unpersoned Hazukari, deleting every article he wrote for them. They haven't published anything about the accusations against him. If they've publicly unpersoned him, that means they believe he's guilty
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I don't necessarily disagree with you here, but I'm gonna suggest an alternate theory that they would have unpersoned Hazukari, regardless of what they believe about him, because they are distracting from their own cognitive dissonance. ANN can't be trusted to make an assessment based on such an "evil egalitarian" concept as actual guilt or innocence.

I do not think it's coincidental ANN decided to become paragons of virtue on this matter until after the Justin Sevakis shit. It's their "penance" for committing the unforgivable sin of not throwing Justin under the bus in accordance with "listen and believe."

"We so sorry you can't have Justin, but we'll offer Hazukari and Vic to the goddess of social justice to make up for it."

Also isn't this DFE shit with contributors you separate from is creepy AF? It's straight out of Soviet Russia. I get not engaging somebody anymore if they're a liability, but memory holing things is something authoritarian regimes try to do.

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The Wisdom of Bassets powiedział(a):
Because the Feminist/radical left groups have been pushing metoo as the current 'most important thing EVAH!. Yes, a portion of this situation predates the metoo hysteria, however the past 'rumored' accusations against Vic were like a screaming neon sign to the SJW set to run the metoo scam on him as the killing blow.

SJWs only ever follow and this is a major page of the intersectional feminism script for destroying men/christians/political enemies. So when metoo'ing ones way into the spotlight and into power became a thing, they jumped on the train with vigor. Win/win for the cause and 'their' cause.

Look what Gamergate did for Quinn and Sarkesian. Evil mysogynistic men and their sexual notions/activities O-pressin' the whamminz. It took them from obscurity to the United Nations.
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Agreed. Their biggest mistake however, besides being liars and BTFO so far for being liars, is that all those Obama neetbux that used to fund SJW media witchhunts is all dried up these days and they didn't get the push they were expecting.

In fact, further showing how dumb these people are, they decided to start this bullshit brigade on the back foot with a public that has gone from either interested or at least passive about such things to being either skeptical or openly hostile to the dangerhair strategy.

The tide has turned. Obviously, moral panics and the consequential witch burnings aren't going anywhere but it's looking like we are entering the waning period of the current crop and that means the exceptional approach KickVic decided to go with will have to adapt and smarten up going forward. (Here's a hint: Don't commit crimes via verifiable written means!)
 
Captain Manning powiedział(a):
Nick is dunking hard now, with an interesting new revelation.
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In light of that white paper, does this bring funi into gross negligence territory? I mistakenly latched on to gross negligence when we first started talking about vice principals because everything I looked at involved trucking companies. (even duckduckgo seems to have me nailed down to certain extent) I would find it funny if I pulled a Shane and was accidentally right about something a month later.
 
Renmei powiedział(a):
Help a newbie out. I'm assuming this is why companies have real HR departments.. to cover their asses from potential legal liabilities like this.. Same with Shane and the agent thing, a simple tweet that the guy doesn't represent Funi would have kept the company out of this lawsuit right?
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It's not Shane who could be perceived as an agent, it's Ron. While that potentially makes Funi liable for Ron's defamatory statements, Funi also made a defamatory tweet and possibly interfered with Vic's contracts with others so they wouldn't be off the hook even if they did disavow Ron's statements.
 
Captain Manning powiedział(a):
Nick is dunking hard now, with an interesting new revelation.

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https://twitter.com/NickRekieta/status/1120124574862139398
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So, can Vic actually sue for wrongful termination if what Nick is saying about the investigation ends up being true?

Also, guys...I found the source Nick is showing. This is from the Texas Workforce Commission.

https://twc.texas.gov/news/efte/workplace_investigations_basics.html#privacyissuesininvestigations
https://twc.texas.gov/news/efte/workplace_investigations_basics.html#defamation-investigations
 
Renmei powiedział(a):
Help a newbie out. I'm assuming this is why companies have real HR departments.. to cover their asses from potential legal liabilities like this.. Same with Shane and the agent thing, a simple tweet that the guy doesn't represent Funi would have kept the company out of this lawsuit right?
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Not HR department, the company I used to work for have their HR dept. outsourced. I think what you want to say is legal department.

Remember, if you to act on behalf of the company, run it by your legal department first.
 
Clint Westwood powiedział(a):
So, can Vic actually sue for wrongful termination if what Nick is saying about the investigation ends up being true?

Also, guys...I found the source Nick is showing. This is from the Texas Workforce Commission.

https://twc.texas.gov/news/efte/workplace_investigations_basics.html#privacyissuesininvestigations
https://twc.texas.gov/news/efte/workplace_investigations_basics.html#defamation-investigations
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No.

The paper is specifically about how you can avoid getting your ass in a sling for defamation as an employer. It reinforces the point about that claim, and the TI stuff. He still likely doesn't have a leg to stand on as far as wrongful termination.
 
Zeke Von Genbu powiedział(a):
For what it is worth I know they have at least one lawyer friend who also actively goes to these conventions so they know about this guy and his spergy attitude.
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Based on this part alone, I'm going to assume that this particular individual hates Vic for a ridiculous reason. Would my assumption be correct in any way?
 
Captain Manning powiedział(a):
No.

The paper is specifically about how you can avoid getting your ass in a sling for defamation as an employer. It reinforces the point about that claim, and the TI stuff. He still likely doesn't have a leg to stand on as far as wrongful termination.
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correct me if i'm wrong, but even in an at-will state, lying about the reason for termination still counts as a breach of contract, no?
 
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