🌟 Internet Famous The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[Sussy Baka Desu?]

I've been lurking these Enter threads for quite a while now, but I couldn't help but comment my thoughts on this awful project. Hilariously enough, someone made a joke Animated Atrocity that is edited like Enter is critiquing his own work, and it perfectly points out all the shit I find wrong with it.

Aside from what's already been mentioned here, I mainly think this project isn't able to reach a broader audience than the adults who still watch cartoons and teenage audience Enter has built for himself. I used to watch him a couple of years ago, but after I lost interest I decided to check on his Growing Around project on his Deviantart page, and there is clearly barely an audience there for this shit. Keep in mind, this guy has nearly 300,000 subs on Youtube, but can only manage less than 20 people to give feedback on this crap cartoon idea. And he's only made $8,000 from his fanbase support.

Oh and here's a link to the book in case any of you want to torture yourself with this mediocre crap writing.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t6s1TuEtSbbQc5LJcaUWzcOIxec_q3UmWcGB8xiX-AQ

 

[Shokew]

Putting the dystopian aspects of this aside...

The fact he is going to be hosting this on YouTube rather than pitching it to say, oh I don’t know, Netflix, to me spells out that this is going to be a huge disaster. Not only does YouTube Monetization suck, but you also have the hassle of merchandising and trying to pitch it to Normies (since believe it or not, Normies are kind of essential for getting the word about your content out there to the rest of society).

Well, unfortunately I can’t see much going for this show when Enter considering the competition he has with other kid shows. Shows like Steven Universe, Gumball or My Little Pony (since he loves those shows) will now be what he has to compete with- something tells me that Growing Around isn’t going to have the same mass appeal as those shows I mentioned do; especially in regards to kids.

Then there’s the fact that he has to have some kind of continuous stream of income in order to pay for things like voice actors, animators, music arrangers, background artists, storyboard writers, editors so on and so fourth- how does he even plan on financing this if he’s only using YouTube? Sure, he could hire any animator but if he wants to put out something with decent quality then it’s going to be costly. Even Rebecca Sugar has to pay her crew; if I recall correctly, just one season costed her around the $12 million mark to make.

That’s why you also have to rely on merchandising to help fund the show on top of any kind of advertisement and show ratings. No extra income = people not being paid the amount they should be.

Now of course, to technically could do it all for free with the labor of love aspect; but that means the animator would also become the background artist and responsible for music arrangement at the same time.

These factors are just the tip of the ice berg though.

The best I can see this fucker doing in terms of popularity is something everyone on 4Chan hates and barely talks about as a result, just to avoid being shut down. Brave as he's trying to be, nothing he's doing comes close to being as noteworthy as what he claims to like.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

It's like he's trying to mash together all the elements of his favorite cartoons (Bojack Horseman's existentialism, Steven Universe's slow-building character arcs, the surreal comedy of SpongeBob and the every-episode-needs-a-moral thing with My Little Pony) with no regard for how they don't fit together, and by trying to do all of it at once, he gets none of these elements right.

How can he expect to handle death respectfully in his show if he outright bans anybody who asks how medicine works in the world?

He is placing his future on this, yet refuses to go to school and learn how to actually do it.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

If Growing Around ever gets made on YouTube it will have the animation quality of the C+A+D series at best.

 

[ureer]

https://www.deviantart.com/mrenter/art/Growing-Around-Questions-1-751936848

"This is one of the most frequent questions asked about Growing Around - "are the adults slaves of children?" which... is a strange question in a multitude of ways. The simple answer is... "no." In Growing Around, if you challenge a kid to a bet or a dare, they'll usually go through with it."​

So basically adults in this world are smarter, or at least have the capability to outsmart a child. So what would happen if an adult would challenge a president or some other authority figure (which I assume all are kids in this world) to take their position and won?

For every question answered about this world of his at least 3 more pop up and the less sense this whole thing makes.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t6s1TuEtSbbQc5LJcaUWzcOIxec_q3UmWcGB8xiX-AQ

Why are the character names different in the novel and the cartoon? It makes an already confusing mess even more confusing.

 

[Wabbu]

https://www.deviantart.com/mrenter/art/Growing-Around-Questions-1-751936848

"This is one of the most frequent questions asked about Growing Around - "are the adults slaves of children?" which... is a strange question in a multitude of ways. The simple answer is... "no." In Growing Around, if you challenge a kid to a bet or a dare, they'll usually go through with it."​

So basically adults in this world are smarter, or at least have the capability to outsmart a child. So what would happen if an adult would challenge a president or some other authority figure (which I assume all are kids in this world) to take their position and won?

For every question answered about this world of his at least 3 more pop up and the less sense this whole thing makes.

A two panel comic made the show's premise kind of pointless, that's a new low

 

[Sussy Baka Desu?]

Why are the character names different in the novel and the cartoon? It makes an already confusing mess even more confusing.

He claims the novel was a "first draft" of the story, but since that recent podcast he's gone on to say that the book is not canon to the cartoon.

Still doesn't change the fact that the writing for the book and cartoon is still filled with the same cliches, bland dialogue, unfortunate implications, and an unsympathetic bitch protagonist.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

He claims the novel was a "first draft" of the story, but since that recent podcast he's gone on to say that the book is not canon to the cartoon.

So, he wants to jump right into making a pilot when it looks like he still doesn't have any idea what he really wants to do with the project.

 

[Bugaboo]

Reminds me of when a bunch of teens try and make an rpg maker game or whatever and the project has multiple people on board somehow and they just endlessly try and figure out every little thing without putting out foundations first eg. A basic game with basic gameplay ideas.

Same thing with this, the backbone of a cartoon is the actually animation and art. Without art, animation, music and voices you simply have a script that no one does anything with. Writing can make or break a cartoon but you gotta have a cartoon first

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Reminds me of when a bunch of teens try and make an rpg maker game or whatever and the project has multiple people on board somehow and they just endlessly try and figure out every little thing without putting out foundations first eg. A basic game with basic gameplay ideas.

or yandere simulator

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

 

[UnKillFill]

He can still make it, y'all...

Spoiler

IF he gets 15,500.32 a day, every single day, until the campaign ends... I mean, he's barely managed to make half of that, in TOTAL, in the week or so this thing's been going on, but...

 

[Shokew]

Wyświetl załącznik 484282 Wyświetl załącznik 484283

Only the 2nd comment is correct about everything and anything going on here.

Wyświetl załącznik 484316
He can still make it, y'all...

Spoiler

IF he gets 15,500.32 a day, every single day, until the campaign ends... I mean, he's barely managed to make half of that, in TOTAL, in the week or so this thing's been going on, but...

Yep, he's fucked - and water is wet, dirt is good for growing stuff in when properly tended to, and both need to be present to make mud. Take care.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Wyświetl załącznik 484316
He can still make it, y'all...

Spoiler

IF he gets 15,500.32 a day, every single day, until the campaign ends... I mean, he's barely managed to make half of that, in TOTAL, in the week or so this thing's been going on, but...

I don't remember, but is this Kickstarter or IndieGoGo?

If it's the former, then he'll be further screwed since he wouldn't even be seeing any of that money. If it's the latter, I would love to see what he'd end up with after getting the little money he'd ultimately get.

Fuck, even Seth MacFarlane didn't produce the Pilot to Family Guy with a high budget. Enter probably should have at least made a pitch trailer if he really wanted to get this done. Or at least a 7-minute short for far less than the $350,000 he's requesting.

 

[Gordon Cole]

I don't remember, but is this Kickstarter or IndieGoGo?

If it's the former, then he'll be further screwed since he wouldn't even be seeing any of that money. If it's the latter, I would love to see what he'd end up with after getting the little money he'd ultimately get.

Fuck, even Seth MacFarlane didn't produce the Pilot to Family Guy with a high budget. Enter probably should have at least made a pitch trailer if he really wanted to get this done. Or at least a 7-minute short for far less than the $350,000 he's requesting.

It's IndieGoGo, but it's a fixed campaign, meaning that he has to give the money back if (Well, more like "when" in this case) he doesn't make enough.

 

[UnKillFill]

What happens if a 3 year old (or even younger) has both of their parents die? Are you seriously telling me that in Enter's world these children be allowed to take care of themselves...?

 

[Johnny Bravo]

To put into perspective how much of a mistake this fundraising venture is, I'd like to bring your attention to a little film called Wolf Song.

This is a feature length movie, made in Adobe Photoshop and Flash, fully voiced, with music made in FL Studio. The quality is pretty poor, probably due to the creator's inexperience with animation, and although there is a link to a store in the description the film was likely produced on a shoe-string budget. It has over 5 million views and 77 thousand likes. For a micro-budget animated production freely available on YouTube, Wolf Song is a resounding success.

Three whole episodes of Growing Around could fit into the runtime of Wolf Song. If ThunderKatlyn can do all of this, why does Enter need $350,000 just for a pilot?

EDIT: As another example, there's Joshua and the Promised Land, which is a CGI animated film made by one guy, his family, and his church that's about 30-40 minutes long. I'll add the video to this post later. Yes, it is also very amateur and looks like shit, but the point is that it exists. Joshua and the Promised Land is an actual thing that you can watch because somebody took the time to do it. Before Growing Around can be everything Enter wants it to be, it has to first be a thing.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Before Growing Around can be everything Enter wants it to be, it has to first be a thing.

Oh, but it is a thing. Just not what we consider "a thing".

 

[AnOminous]

Fuck, even Seth MacFarlane didn't produce the Pilot to Family Guy with a high budget. Enter probably should have at least made a pitch trailer if he really wanted to get this done. Or at least a 7-minute short for far less than the $350,000 he's requesting.

The Jesus vs. Santa South Park short that got them a deal with Comedy Central was made on a budget of $750. I actually saw that some time in early 1996, I think, because it went viral over the holidays, at least to the extent anything went viral back in 1995.

Before Growing Around can be everything Enter wants it to be, it has to first be a thing.

It's a thing all right. Well, a something. Or at least a piece of something.

If ThunderKatlyn can do all of this, why does Enter need $350,000 just for a pilot?

Also he doesn't. I'll cut him some autistic slack in possibly just not having the foggiest clue how any of this stuff works, rather than it being some elaborate con job because Mr. Enter wants to enter your bunghole, but the number is clearly unrealistic.