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- 25 Maj 2013
I think Hux is more flyawaynow, especially since I can totally imagine Kylo calling him up to shriek incoherently about street racing and shit like that.
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- 25 Lut 2013
Now I want to see Hux smack Kylo with a skateboard.
- Dołączono
- 25 Maj 2013
I would actually love to see a Kylo version of PRESS ONE IF I SHOULD KILL MY DAD! PRESS ONEEEEE (sobs and vomits).
Also the Vader helmet is his version of the John Cena battlefield replica.
Also the Vader helmet is his version of the John Cena battlefield replica.
- Dołączono
- 5 Maj 2016
I've seen the movie, friend has a birthday and invite a few people.
To be fair, I like the saga, but don't consider myself a fan. These are just a visually stunning and fun movies for me. Also watched all of them first time about 6 years ago, so I had no attachement to the orginal trilogy (still strongly preffered them over prequels).
Have mixed feelings in general. I liked the movie, there were some cringy moments (jokes that destroyed some moments and flying Leia), but they didn't destroy the experience for me. At the same time, there is many decisions that will make fans angry. I don't like how Luke was written. Some ideas balance between "fresh take on the story" and "betraying orginal source material". Star Wars saga is not very close to my heart, so I'm not the one to judge.
I'm for sure not thinking that people who are mad at this movie are all lolcows.
To be fair, I like the saga, but don't consider myself a fan. These are just a visually stunning and fun movies for me. Also watched all of them first time about 6 years ago, so I had no attachement to the orginal trilogy (still strongly preffered them over prequels).
Have mixed feelings in general. I liked the movie, there were some cringy moments (jokes that destroyed some moments and flying Leia), but they didn't destroy the experience for me. At the same time, there is many decisions that will make fans angry. I don't like how Luke was written. Some ideas balance between "fresh take on the story" and "betraying orginal source material". Star Wars saga is not very close to my heart, so I'm not the one to judge.
I'm for sure not thinking that people who are mad at this movie are all lolcows.
Why are those people so obsessed with destroying? Yeah, obsessive fans crying about any changes are their own king of spergs, but "haha, your nostalgia is destroyed, eat it up, nerds" are even worse.
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- 3 Wrz 2014
My first thought when Luke revealed that he intended to kill Ben for an instant made me think of Return of the Jedi. Luke nearly falls twice at the end, once when goes ballistic on Vader, and once earlier when he grabs his saber and swings at Palpatine. With that character flaw in mind, I could buy Luke being troubled enough by his emotions (fear in this case) to consider killing Ben. At least in this case he was able to stop himself. In Jedi, it was largely distractions from Vader and Palpatine that gave him a moment to realize what he was doing.
I wanted more badass Jedi Master Luke and less Whiny Skywalker Luke, but I felt like the end made up for it. And honestly, I felt less like he died and more like he willingly gave himself to the Force. Combine that with "See you around, kid," and I think we'll see him as a ghost in IX.
I wanted more badass Jedi Master Luke and less Whiny Skywalker Luke, but I felt like the end made up for it. And honestly, I felt less like he died and more like he willingly gave himself to the Force. Combine that with "See you around, kid," and I think we'll see him as a ghost in IX.
- Dołączono
- 24 Paź 2017
If you are still invested in the lore of Star Wars you are a lolcow. You should just sit back and warm your hands on the dumpster fire.
MrLobe
kiwifarms.net
- Dołączono
- 18 Sty 2017
Her name is Watercutter, but her hair salon needs a wirecutter.
- Dołączono
- 9 Sie 2014
Right, just seen it. Here be my review.
Liked it. Flawed, but the good outweighed the bad. Those of you saying it makes the Prequels look good need to get your heads checked.
The film is way too long though - could've been shortened by half an hour at least without losing anything.
Right, from here on be spoilers:
So yeah. Roll on the Han Solo film.
Liked it. Flawed, but the good outweighed the bad. Those of you saying it makes the Prequels look good need to get your heads checked.
The film is way too long though - could've been shortened by half an hour at least without losing anything.
Right, from here on be spoilers:
This film isn't Empire again, thankfully. Force Awakens just about got away with being similar to A New Hope, but I wouldn't have tolerated that shit a second time. I actually groaned during the opening crawl when I saw the Resistance were fleeing their base because that's not like Empire at all right? But that's about as far as the similarities go. Well, that and the walkers.
My favourite parts of the film were on the island with Luke and Rey - that was some good stuff. Also where Luke basically whips his dick out in front of the First Order - that was seriously satisfying to watch.
Don't have a problem with Rey's parents being no-one - like others have said, if she was a Skywalker it really wouldn't have been much of a surprise and would've been the most obvious twist ever.
I didn't have a problem with them killing Snoke, but they could at least have told us who he was other than "some guy". Why build up a mystique around him if you're not going to pay it off?
That Yoda puppet looked seriously off as well - it just doesn't stand up to high-def cameras. Nice to see him again, but he didn't look right.
I actually quite liked Rose - her and Finn's plot strand was a fun yarn and I hope she makes it to the next one.
On the subject of the next one, I'm interested to see what they do. This film almost felt like an ending in and of itself what with nearly all the villains being killed off. You guys do realise you have three films for this right?
My favourite parts of the film were on the island with Luke and Rey - that was some good stuff. Also where Luke basically whips his dick out in front of the First Order - that was seriously satisfying to watch.
Don't have a problem with Rey's parents being no-one - like others have said, if she was a Skywalker it really wouldn't have been much of a surprise and would've been the most obvious twist ever.
I didn't have a problem with them killing Snoke, but they could at least have told us who he was other than "some guy". Why build up a mystique around him if you're not going to pay it off?
That Yoda puppet looked seriously off as well - it just doesn't stand up to high-def cameras. Nice to see him again, but he didn't look right.
I actually quite liked Rose - her and Finn's plot strand was a fun yarn and I hope she makes it to the next one.
On the subject of the next one, I'm interested to see what they do. This film almost felt like an ending in and of itself what with nearly all the villains being killed off. You guys do realise you have three films for this right?
So yeah. Roll on the Han Solo film.
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- 24 Paź 2017
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- 9 Wrz 2016
Fine, I'll give my take...
I think the movie had a few jarring tonal shifts that took me out of it. The human comedy was good but I can't help but feel like the timing was off occasionally, Po's opening monologue went on a second or five too long and seeing Sith Lords force pull people around is trite after the second time it happens in a film. The writer must have a real hard on for animals because there were not one or two but three stuffed animal races in the film and all three were out of place in a Star Wars film. Ewoks had a certain creative charm to them and even got to actively participate in the plot, but nobody is going to remember those roaring penguins, silver foxes or dog giraffes in two years time, let alone twenty.
The main plot is split in half between Rei/Kylo and Po/Flynn/Rose. Consensus in this thread seems to be that Rei's portion was the better of the two but I disagree. There were good parts, clever moments and some riveting scenes with Yoda and on the command ship but I did not think the film had anything interesting to say about the Jedi or the Force that hasn't been said previously. Kylo and Rei's connection was interesting and tread new ground, shoving what had been a boring training sequence off the rails. I am glad it did so and caused the film to start aping RotJ instead of Empire. I feel it sets us up for a very original final act in another year or two. After Force Awakens I figured that I had basically had the films' arc plotted but I was wrong and am glad of it. I think that the writers, though they will never admit it, took the Mary Sue criticisms to heart and gave Rei weaknesses and limitations that served to make her character likable and identifiable to the audience in a way that she had not been previously.
Viewed through the hell of office politics that is my life, I actually adored the non-Jedi character's plotline. It could have been tightened up a little bit and the main characters being able to just blast off to another planet randomly in the middle of a chase seems way out of line for a Star Wars film, but the idea of hot-head Po butting heads with a supposedly cowardly leadership really rings true with me. That said, outside of the first "cantina-esque" run-through of the casino and the parking complaintant, none of the scenes on that planet gelled with me, it really needed a re-write and paring down. I also could have done without Holden's tribute to Leia. We already got that crap out of our system in the previous film and it was better off staying there. Indeed, I can't help but feel that Holden's position in the film was undermined by having Leia survive, with her still alive on the ship the threat never seemed immediate enough, the stakes never high enough.
Thats a bit of complaining but remember, I said this was the better half of the film. Having two fleets engaged in one drawn-out chase involving resource depletion and time management is not what people commonly associate with Star Wars but in one way or another it was in all three of the original films if you knew where to look. Even if it hadn't been it felt thoroughly Star Wars to me, much more so than the confetti explosion battles that recent Star Wars films tended towards having. Having a main character be wrong (and, if you look closely, be responsible for the deaths of most of his comrades) is another nice change of pace. You can't have "Star Wars" without "Wars" and it is refreshing to see the good guys lose a battle every once in awhile. Yet with the positive we must also take the negative... one nit to pick is that I would prefer not having people purposely pilot ships into each other in Star Wars anymore. It happened in Rogue One, it happened accidentally a few times in the original trilogy and it happened twice here. That is more than enough, its lost its emotional impact. I'd have preferred Holden's maneuver to be positioning her ship between the fleet and the transports- which plot-wise would have had the same results while being more original, more memorable and, in my opinion, more daring. Could have had her jumping around to the various stations to try steering that massive ship by herself too, for added interest. She could have been a great, classic character but as is she was flat and will be forgotten, which is a shame. Fynn's aborted self-sacrifice on the other hand could have just been cut with no loss.
All of that said, this is the best the series has been since RotJ and the first time pieces of a new film have matched the originals in quality. I left the theater feeling happy and optimistic for the next film and for life in general. Thats all you can really ask of a Star Wars movie, isn't it? I do not know how they wrap this up and I won't waste time speculating. See ya in 2020.
The main plot is split in half between Rei/Kylo and Po/Flynn/Rose. Consensus in this thread seems to be that Rei's portion was the better of the two but I disagree. There were good parts, clever moments and some riveting scenes with Yoda and on the command ship but I did not think the film had anything interesting to say about the Jedi or the Force that hasn't been said previously. Kylo and Rei's connection was interesting and tread new ground, shoving what had been a boring training sequence off the rails. I am glad it did so and caused the film to start aping RotJ instead of Empire. I feel it sets us up for a very original final act in another year or two. After Force Awakens I figured that I had basically had the films' arc plotted but I was wrong and am glad of it. I think that the writers, though they will never admit it, took the Mary Sue criticisms to heart and gave Rei weaknesses and limitations that served to make her character likable and identifiable to the audience in a way that she had not been previously.
Viewed through the hell of office politics that is my life, I actually adored the non-Jedi character's plotline. It could have been tightened up a little bit and the main characters being able to just blast off to another planet randomly in the middle of a chase seems way out of line for a Star Wars film, but the idea of hot-head Po butting heads with a supposedly cowardly leadership really rings true with me. That said, outside of the first "cantina-esque" run-through of the casino and the parking complaintant, none of the scenes on that planet gelled with me, it really needed a re-write and paring down. I also could have done without Holden's tribute to Leia. We already got that crap out of our system in the previous film and it was better off staying there. Indeed, I can't help but feel that Holden's position in the film was undermined by having Leia survive, with her still alive on the ship the threat never seemed immediate enough, the stakes never high enough.
Thats a bit of complaining but remember, I said this was the better half of the film. Having two fleets engaged in one drawn-out chase involving resource depletion and time management is not what people commonly associate with Star Wars but in one way or another it was in all three of the original films if you knew where to look. Even if it hadn't been it felt thoroughly Star Wars to me, much more so than the confetti explosion battles that recent Star Wars films tended towards having. Having a main character be wrong (and, if you look closely, be responsible for the deaths of most of his comrades) is another nice change of pace. You can't have "Star Wars" without "Wars" and it is refreshing to see the good guys lose a battle every once in awhile. Yet with the positive we must also take the negative... one nit to pick is that I would prefer not having people purposely pilot ships into each other in Star Wars anymore. It happened in Rogue One, it happened accidentally a few times in the original trilogy and it happened twice here. That is more than enough, its lost its emotional impact. I'd have preferred Holden's maneuver to be positioning her ship between the fleet and the transports- which plot-wise would have had the same results while being more original, more memorable and, in my opinion, more daring. Could have had her jumping around to the various stations to try steering that massive ship by herself too, for added interest. She could have been a great, classic character but as is she was flat and will be forgotten, which is a shame. Fynn's aborted self-sacrifice on the other hand could have just been cut with no loss.
All of that said, this is the best the series has been since RotJ and the first time pieces of a new film have matched the originals in quality. I left the theater feeling happy and optimistic for the next film and for life in general. Thats all you can really ask of a Star Wars movie, isn't it? I do not know how they wrap this up and I won't waste time speculating. See ya in 2020.
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- Dołączono
- 3 Lut 2013
- i liked seeing Carrie fishers daughter having more screen time in this installment
- I went to the ladies room when they went to the casino planet or whatever. We had gotten the canto bight book at work a couple of weeks ago, and it looked prequelly
- I wasn’t surprised to see Luke die. Dude always looked like it was his last day alive in every scene.
- The crystal foxes were just too much. They looked like Christmas ornaments!
- I liked the end scene with everybody on the falcon. I was expecting life day to break out or something.
- Dołączono
- 6 Wrz 2013
So, I just got back from the movie. Umm, yup. Definitely feels like Disney wants to turn back the clock to the beginning of the story, and I think that's kinda the point.
This movie kinda reminds me of Skyfall in a way. See, one of the big things about Skyfall was Bond began the film as the modern action hero only to be reborn as the power fantasy classic Bond was. It was a thematic remake of Goldeneye, showing Bond still had a place in the modern world by bucking modern conventions, and I love me some Goldeneye.
So what was The Last Jedi trying to throw off? I couldn't help but feel it was backlash against fans clamoring for a more "adult" Star Wars, like how people gush about Rogue One being morally ambiguous because of some people fighting the Empire with more questionable ethics. See, Star Wars wasn't meant to be a deep story, it was based off of science adventure serials and old war movies after America was shaken by the Vietnam War and Watergate. It was a happy pill in an era of cinematic cynicism, a simple tale of good vs. evil and in many respects the antithesis of Mobile Suit Gundam (sorry, had to say that considering how many times I hear "Gundam is Japanese Star Wars"). I felt like there were moments where there was a big play towards making the Resistence seem more gray, like with that Poe's beef with that purple-haired woman or the fact someone was selling weapons to both sides of the war. And we can't forget a more cynical Luke who failed his students, like in the Young Jedi Knights books I loved a child.
But in the end, they never tried to make the Empire sympathetic. Purple-haired lady actually had a plan instead of just running away. Luke stopped feeling sorry for himself and became the legend again. Best boy doesn't sacrifice himself to take out the battering ram in what I believe a middle finger to Rogue One. It's a story about finding hope, a new hope for a new generation of Star Wars kids as well as good vs. evil.
Still, I found the movie did have issues. Rey is a bad character in my opinion who was only carried through the first movie because of her chemistry with Finn. The script felt too polished for me, whereas Lucas's scripts were rough and carried by the cast. This gave the original cast more humanity in my opinion, while the humor of the new movies feels artificial. Porgs... actually weren't bad. Better than Ewoks at least.
Best Star Wars film ever? No. From the films I've seen, it's IV=V>R1>VIII>VI>VII>I
This movie kinda reminds me of Skyfall in a way. See, one of the big things about Skyfall was Bond began the film as the modern action hero only to be reborn as the power fantasy classic Bond was. It was a thematic remake of Goldeneye, showing Bond still had a place in the modern world by bucking modern conventions, and I love me some Goldeneye.
So what was The Last Jedi trying to throw off? I couldn't help but feel it was backlash against fans clamoring for a more "adult" Star Wars, like how people gush about Rogue One being morally ambiguous because of some people fighting the Empire with more questionable ethics. See, Star Wars wasn't meant to be a deep story, it was based off of science adventure serials and old war movies after America was shaken by the Vietnam War and Watergate. It was a happy pill in an era of cinematic cynicism, a simple tale of good vs. evil and in many respects the antithesis of Mobile Suit Gundam (sorry, had to say that considering how many times I hear "Gundam is Japanese Star Wars"). I felt like there were moments where there was a big play towards making the Resistence seem more gray, like with that Poe's beef with that purple-haired woman or the fact someone was selling weapons to both sides of the war. And we can't forget a more cynical Luke who failed his students, like in the Young Jedi Knights books I loved a child.
But in the end, they never tried to make the Empire sympathetic. Purple-haired lady actually had a plan instead of just running away. Luke stopped feeling sorry for himself and became the legend again. Best boy doesn't sacrifice himself to take out the battering ram in what I believe a middle finger to Rogue One. It's a story about finding hope, a new hope for a new generation of Star Wars kids as well as good vs. evil.
Still, I found the movie did have issues. Rey is a bad character in my opinion who was only carried through the first movie because of her chemistry with Finn. The script felt too polished for me, whereas Lucas's scripts were rough and carried by the cast. This gave the original cast more humanity in my opinion, while the humor of the new movies feels artificial. Porgs... actually weren't bad. Better than Ewoks at least.
Best Star Wars film ever? No. From the films I've seen, it's IV=V>R1>VIII>VI>VII>I
- Dołączono
- 25 Maj 2015
If the writers were good, they'd pull a Legend of Galactic Heroes and show the First Order as being autocratic, but a good place to live.
- Dołączono
- 6 Wrz 2013
I'm just waiting for RLM to have a swing at this movie.
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- 3 Gru 2013
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- 17 Lis 2016
Still processing after the 7:30 show this evening, but here is what I've worked out so far:
Literally nothing I predicted about the movie ended up coming to pass, and that is good. Kylo and Rey aren't Jacen and Jaina. Rey's lost parents weren't Skywalkers, Kenobis or Solos but space trash who abandoned her in the desert like assholes putting out a dog. The "training" on Jedi Island, such as it was, went in a completely different direction from ESB. I liked that it was about the powerful yet confused young upstart helping the humiliated old man live up to his mythologized glory. Ditto for Luke not being on Jedi Island to research some hidden ultimate game changing power, but that he'd gone there to fuck off and die alone. The turning-on-the-evil-master twist in the throne room ended with a better twist, that Ren wasn't redeemed. Finn didn't get to have his heroic sacrifice. Poe didn't get to be a hero either via granny Leia and her stun gun. I kept expecting danger hair Laura Dern to be stupid incompetent or a rogue agent for The First Order. Her lightspeeding to her death through the Star Destroyer worked for me. Most of all, it was good they kept Leia alive the whole movie instead of writing her off with a poorly edited-in death. Ultimately, all the dumb, predictable directions they could have taken ended up working better with these simpler approaches because they felt more human.
Luke had the perfect arc throughout the movie. I loved how his death was bookended by the sunset callback. The kids playing at the end was a great "legends never die" way to lead Luke out. Oh, and Luke's final words to Ren after the astral projection reveal, perfect. He's now emotionally fucked up two-fold.
But we never got our explanation for Supreme Leader Snoke. That thread was poorly wrapped and anticlimactic. Was he a Palpatine clone, Darth Plagueis, a poor man's Grand Admiral Thrawn? Nope, just Andy Serkis wrapped in CGI skin, and he meant nothing and slrkk, he died. It was good that Rey's roots were humble, not so great that her preprogammed Force and pilot skills weren't addressed. Unless Episode IX finally gives that information to us she's still a Mary Sue with little logic behind her.
On the other hand, I admire that the movies haven't resorted to spoonfeeding the audience everything in a terse paragraph. I liked that about TFA so I'll give it a pass here.
Captain Phasma's reappearance was laughably short and bad. Two movies so far and all she was good for was getting tossed in a trash chute or a fireball, and without much effort either.
Some of the comic relief bits worked. Others felt forced and cringey. BB-88 manning the AT-ST gun was dumb.
TLJ had flaws, but was entertaining and consistent enough to bring me back for IX in 2020. I am anxious to know how a fledgling new Rebellion holed up in a salt mine will fare against a huge army now led by an emotionally unstable teenage Dark Helmet.
Luke had the perfect arc throughout the movie. I loved how his death was bookended by the sunset callback. The kids playing at the end was a great "legends never die" way to lead Luke out. Oh, and Luke's final words to Ren after the astral projection reveal, perfect. He's now emotionally fucked up two-fold.
But we never got our explanation for Supreme Leader Snoke. That thread was poorly wrapped and anticlimactic. Was he a Palpatine clone, Darth Plagueis, a poor man's Grand Admiral Thrawn? Nope, just Andy Serkis wrapped in CGI skin, and he meant nothing and slrkk, he died. It was good that Rey's roots were humble, not so great that her preprogammed Force and pilot skills weren't addressed. Unless Episode IX finally gives that information to us she's still a Mary Sue with little logic behind her.
On the other hand, I admire that the movies haven't resorted to spoonfeeding the audience everything in a terse paragraph. I liked that about TFA so I'll give it a pass here.
Captain Phasma's reappearance was laughably short and bad. Two movies so far and all she was good for was getting tossed in a trash chute or a fireball, and without much effort either.
Some of the comic relief bits worked. Others felt forced and cringey. BB-88 manning the AT-ST gun was dumb.
TLJ had flaws, but was entertaining and consistent enough to bring me back for IX in 2020. I am anxious to know how a fledgling new Rebellion holed up in a salt mine will fare against a huge army now led by an emotionally unstable teenage Dark Helmet.
GeorgeDaMoose
kiwifarms.net
- Dołączono
- 24 Lut 2015
I watched it.
That movie was fucking terrible. I'm not sure whether it was as bad as Attack of the Clones, better, or worse. It's around that level of fucking terrible though.
That movie was fucking terrible. I'm not sure whether it was as bad as Attack of the Clones, better, or worse. It's around that level of fucking terrible though.
- Dołączono
- 12 Sty 2017
Lmao the Insider (MSN link) has an article about the 21 biggest questions "we" have after seeing TLJ. Some of the questions are legit questions, but others are fucking stupid.
1. Who is Rey?
2. So, who was Snoke?
3. Is Luke dead?
4. But is Luke going to appear in another Star Wars movie?
5. Will R-2 D2 stay awake or will he go back into his droid hibernation?
6. Is Carrie Fisher going to be in the next Star Wars?
7. What was that entire scene with Leia floating in space?
8. Why is there a Force-sensitive kid on Canto Bight?
9. How does Rey know how to swim?
10. How does Ben and Rey's Force talk work?
11. Snoke was linking Ben's and Rey's minds, so why did he link them together when Ben was shirtless?
12. What was up with that trippy mirror scene?
13. Why was Yoda the only Force ghost in this movie?
14. Why don't all Storm Troopers have chrome suits?
15. Why didn't any of the allies respond to Leia's cry for help near the end of the movie?
16. Is Rey going to have a double-bladed lightsaber in the next film?
17. Do the Jedi matter anymore?
18. Will Episode IX take place in the future?
19. How did Rey get on the Millennium Falcon near the movie's end?
20. Does Rey have the sacred Jedi order texts?
21. Is Reylo going to be a thing?
2. So, who was Snoke?
3. Is Luke dead?
4. But is Luke going to appear in another Star Wars movie?
5. Will R-2 D2 stay awake or will he go back into his droid hibernation?
6. Is Carrie Fisher going to be in the next Star Wars?
7. What was that entire scene with Leia floating in space?
8. Why is there a Force-sensitive kid on Canto Bight?
9. How does Rey know how to swim?
10. How does Ben and Rey's Force talk work?
11. Snoke was linking Ben's and Rey's minds, so why did he link them together when Ben was shirtless?
12. What was up with that trippy mirror scene?
13. Why was Yoda the only Force ghost in this movie?
14. Why don't all Storm Troopers have chrome suits?
15. Why didn't any of the allies respond to Leia's cry for help near the end of the movie?
16. Is Rey going to have a double-bladed lightsaber in the next film?
17. Do the Jedi matter anymore?
18. Will Episode IX take place in the future?
19. How did Rey get on the Millennium Falcon near the movie's end?
20. Does Rey have the sacred Jedi order texts?
21. Is Reylo going to be a thing?
