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Boy, he is incredibly salty about this off model thing, it's already caused him to forget how mad he was about everyone hating that one lesbian rock.
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Dobby, just because there is worse example doesn't negate the shittiness of your and other's work. This is like saying Jones Town isn't a tragedy just because the Holocaust happened. Also the Rocky and Bullwinkle example, how is that remotely relevant, the SU team doesn't switch around animation team as drastically as that show. Not to mention that the cartoon you exemplify has no continuity thus it has some excuse as it being a stylistic choice for that episode alone.
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It’s amusing when Dobby tries to speak as if he has any insider knowledge of the animation industry.
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- 25 Lis 2016
He prob thinks he does because he was roomies with an animator. And Dobson’s that person who after reading one wiki article thinks they’re an expert at that subject.
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- 21 Lip 2015
Wonder what Dobson would say if someone tweeted this pic and asked about her.
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- 4 Lis 2017
Ok, forget what I said before about him being able to talk technically about cartoons, Dobson really does have no fucking clue what he's on about.
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The different backgrounds don't mean different teams. IIRC, The Animaniacs were in house WB (part of what put it in an early grave) except for the inbetweeners for the very last episodes.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbetweening)
The Rocky and Bullwinkle is a bad example that he thinks proves his point, but it doesn't. The R&BW show was written so the episodes were made of several independent segments. These segments that could be mixed and matched, (or run independently with or between other cartoons). Earlier segments were recycled in later episodes as a cost-cutting measure, so in the same episode you could have segments that were animated years apart by completely different teams; different head & key animaors, and inbetweened by different studios. But each individual segment would have been made by the same people.
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Anyway, the key point here is this:
In both those cases, they didn't switch inbetweeners in the SAME FUCKING SEASON, let alone the same episode. And even if SU shipped work off to different Asian studios, the key frames should have been done by the same team.
How do you go to school for animation and be this much of a dumbass? This was all shit I've just picked up passively.
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- 15 Kwi 2013
Dobson claimed that you need to learn what a profolio is in school, while a normal functioning person even outside the trade know what it is. He blames his lack of knowledge on anything but himself by default.
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- 10 Lut 2015
I find it hard to believe that his school didn’t offer any resources to assist students with putting a portfolio together.
The most likely and logical answer is that Dobbo isn’t that bright and if they didn’t hold his hand and do it for him, he didn’t take part in any activity.
MarineN*423543
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imagine ppl walking front his house only to hear the whinning from the basement
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- 12 Lis 2015
So we've gone from "It's a stylistic choice" to "It doesn't matter if they were lazy and off-model because of Rocky & Bullwinkle".
If you ever wanted to win a debate, just make sure Dobson argued the other side. He could make any viewpoint sound bad. "I'm here today to make the case for oxygen!" By the end of the panel, everyone in the room's stopped breathing.
If you ever wanted to win a debate, just make sure Dobson argued the other side. He could make any viewpoint sound bad. "I'm here today to make the case for oxygen!" By the end of the panel, everyone in the room's stopped breathing.
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- 6 Kwi 2015
didn't dobson complain about some popular media being lazily drawn not that long ago?
but now being lazy is fine.
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- 8 Lis 2017
It's only fine when Dobbo does it, but not when anyone else does it. Hypocrisy is Dobbo's bread and butter.
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- 15 Paź 2017
I wouldn't necessarily say that Sugar's advice is inherently harmful. As other have pointed out skewing the proportions and going off model has worked in the past for other shows like A:TLA and anime like Kill la Kill, and judging by her student films - while I'm personally not a huge fan of Sugar's style - she does seem to have somewhat of an understanding on how to use this exaggeration to enhance mood rather than just not giving a shit.
I think more the problem is that Sugar isn't very good at explaining this concept and doesn't appear to be very assertive in person (seriously try and find an interview or panel talk of her that isn't near-unintelligable mumbling) so she probably doesn't have a strong handle on her creative team to direct them in a way for SU's loose modeling system to be effective. Which also means it's easy for lazy artists like Dobson who don't really want to put in effort can latch onto for their own benefit.
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Not to mention she nor her crew really can tell the difference between going off model for exaggeration or to showcase a certain artist's style, and going off model due to shitty domestic artists or outsourcing.
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Air should be illegal if he breathes it.
Anime is Blood
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He would probably blame the break up on his art school being so inefficient they conditioned him to have a poor work life balance with their curriculum.
Or maybe that the art school failing him completely gave him PTSD and issues with trust. He is now a forsaken soul deserving of our pity and twitter attention because the expectations a partner puts on him causes him to collapse and remember the horror of art school.
MarineN*423543
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- 6 Kwi 2017
How we know his degree is real?, most likely he lies about being graduated because no teacher wouldnt endure his manchild ramblings and stupidity
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- 7 Lut 2013
You seem blissfully unaware of the state of American academia if you think a whiny manchild would have a difficult time graduating
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- 27 Cze 2013
Off model for artistic reasons and off model for quality reasons are entirely different things that are pretty much mutually exclusive unless you get a hilariously appropriate animation error. Let's take the original Transformers cartoon as an example because it provides the best example I can think of:
The guys who combine are regularly much larger than everyone, but they don't really have a consistent size except "big". As a result, their scale is all over the place and usually ends up with the guys that make up the combined robot being bigger as limbs than as individual robots, yet still self consistent in a way. Also, what kid is really going to notice outside occasional moments of fridge logic?
This is totally and completely different from animation errors and differing studio styles. Toei produced reasonably consistent animation for Transformers with occasional errors. Later episodes produced by AKOM are noticeably error ridden and of poor quality and not for a stylistic reason. Then, there's a few episodes thought to be produced by Studio Ox that put in tons of extra detail. So while they are also technically "off model" they look much better.
And on a larger scale, you have the wide variety of animation styles in 60s and 70s Looney Toons, Disney, and Hanna-Barbera cartoons. But those can't really contribute to Dobson's argument because they are largely self-contained and episodic in nature. They mostly don't have an overarching story told across multiple episodes. Consistency is important to such a narrative as it ensures the audience can recognize the characters as they appear and also become emotionally invested. AtLA does this and gets away with the silly bending of the style for certain moments and also even modifying it for more serious moments in the series where needed.
Unsurprisingly, despite going to school for animation and dreaming of working at Disney, ol' Dob would just rather whine about how people are shitting on his favorite show because he cannot ever take any criticism about himself or anything he likes.
The guys who combine are regularly much larger than everyone, but they don't really have a consistent size except "big". As a result, their scale is all over the place and usually ends up with the guys that make up the combined robot being bigger as limbs than as individual robots, yet still self consistent in a way. Also, what kid is really going to notice outside occasional moments of fridge logic?
This is totally and completely different from animation errors and differing studio styles. Toei produced reasonably consistent animation for Transformers with occasional errors. Later episodes produced by AKOM are noticeably error ridden and of poor quality and not for a stylistic reason. Then, there's a few episodes thought to be produced by Studio Ox that put in tons of extra detail. So while they are also technically "off model" they look much better.
And on a larger scale, you have the wide variety of animation styles in 60s and 70s Looney Toons, Disney, and Hanna-Barbera cartoons. But those can't really contribute to Dobson's argument because they are largely self-contained and episodic in nature. They mostly don't have an overarching story told across multiple episodes. Consistency is important to such a narrative as it ensures the audience can recognize the characters as they appear and also become emotionally invested. AtLA does this and gets away with the silly bending of the style for certain moments and also even modifying it for more serious moments in the series where needed.
Unsurprisingly, despite going to school for animation and dreaming of working at Disney, ol' Dob would just rather whine about how people are shitting on his favorite show because he cannot ever take any criticism about himself or anything he likes.